hangon
- 19 Apr 2007 12:41
Oh dear, oh dear an EGM to give our fast-talking but slow-acting execs more incentive. Really...and what happened to the last swathe of incentive - did it die "on the vine" as it were through oversight...did I miss a return to 8op?
No? you mean it's still about 25p like it was ages ago with the risk of an exec take-over?
SO "what" has happened since them? Where is the incentive for shareholders?
Ah! there's the real issue - don't pay the execs until they produce some sales and profits.
Grief, we can't insist they perform properly - where would it end?
When I was employed, one took pride in doing a job well...and that usually meant better than the lowest acceptable - otherwise your card was marked!
Oh well, maybe this is an EGM worth paying for? - can't execs work without such interruptions....securing a deal or some trial success would be nice -
Skypharma - says it all - pie-pharma more likely - perhaps we should insist on a name-change to reflect the executives likely successes.
Let's guess that there is a deal in the offing and they expect this will move the sp from 25p to 50p - SO What! - where is the 80p?
Now let's say that 80p was the sp for neutral returns ( for may investors)...therefore if the execs can achieve 160p (steady for, say 3 months) then they will have achieved something and "might" be worth a bonus of 10% salary......increased to 20% if the company is generating profits such that the bank-balance is real (ie above any outstanding loans/debts/liabilities) nad there is no cash-call during the next 12 months (with the sp remaining at 1.60-level)...only then would the bonus be paid. Any exec that can't hack it, or is shoved out etc. forfeits their bonuses and must repay any already paid.
Makes me mad these Options, incentive plans etc - have they no shame?
Get on with your work!
[ the bonus is to be paid 100% of salary if the sp reaches 55p - but there is a "initial grant" of up to 300% of salary for the top execs- ouch! - see documents - and DYOR ]
Looks pretty easy to me! A year ago it was 40p - shouldn't investments go up?
They could show some belief in the company by buying shares...say 100k's at 40p - would make the market think. (That's each.... ).
Grr - does any other shareholder feel cheated from the Action?
pachandl
- 26 Apr 2007 15:29
- 2 of 48
Good recovery in sp today after the initial drop following the rns.
share trader
- 06 Aug 2007 23:36
- 3 of 48
bristlelad
- 07 Aug 2007 18:28
- 5 of 48
HI driver/// BOTTOM FISHING (AGAIN)????????????
biffa18
- 06 Sep 2007 10:03
- 7 of 48
little bit of bottom feeding going on at skp
amardev
- 17 Oct 2007 19:49
- 8 of 48
Hi folks............
Don't like the chart at all, on this one .................. looking to fall very soon.
All views welcome.
Cheers
Amar
hangon
- 03 Jan 2008 11:36
- 9 of 48
Today's good news is a small payment in Dollars, as a result of an FDA approval - but it's not done much - it isn't much as Cash.
BUT - and here maybe we might see some activity if Punters move this stock - we do know SKP isn't dead in the water - The...(Titanic Mode)...Ship has sunk without trace but the lifeboat has come back - at least I think that;s what it is (in the Dark)......brr!
Currently 13p this is SKP's all-time low ( it was 10p before others acted).....is there anything else to get excited about, OR will it die down once past the jetsom surrounding the last known co-ordinates?
It might come good - but only in TIME - and That's "key", IMHO, to the sp - it may still dip further with.... " Market Woes generally".
hangon
- 04 Jun 2008 17:32
- 11 of 48
Yes, Driver, and today it has touched that level....Oh deary and we investors were led to believe things were quite rosy - all those years ago.
Were we lied to? -OR- was the executive a total shambles, which we should have realised?
I recall this was close to 1 with talk of nano-technology curing all ills.
Maybe there was a hint in the name - "sky - "
Arrgh!
ahoj
- 17 Jun 2008 08:48
- 17 of 48
I wonder why it's not 50p by now!!!
MMs' usual game...
hangon
- 20 Jun 2008 12:57
- 18 of 48
FDA appreoval is no G'tee of shareholder returns- Directors always have someting elst to waste our money on.
The convertible loan is a huge drag and until SKP gets a commercial partner, there are no sales.
Being "distressed" any partner may want a larger slice of profits, to allow their name to be associated with this dullard.
- All-in-all, IMHO it's not surprising we are so far from 50p.
Currently 6p, the Mkt Cap is 45m - goodness what is supporting this valuation?....I hold but fear it may be too late. Earlier expectations have been dashed.
Driver, what are your estimates, having bought recently...etc.
ahoj
- 03 Jul 2008 08:56
- 19 of 48
Great news. This company worth a couple of times more than the current price. We need a large company to bid for it.
ahoj
- 03 Jul 2008 09:04
- 20 of 48
Companies which their share is not held by banks can rise. Those which are held by banks have to go down.
WHat do you think?
driver
- 22 Jul 2008 09:53
- 22 of 48
Nice bit of news sp up 20%
Skyepharma partner completes two Phase III studies for Flutiform in EU programme
AFX
LONDON (Thomson Financial) - SkyePharma Plc, the drug delivery specialist, says its European development partner Mundipharma has recorded positive results and successfully completed two Phase III clinical studies for the European development programme for Flutiform, its development asthma product.
The clinical update is secondary, however, to the company's US filing, which is waiting on the results of key additional safety studies required by the FDA, which should be completed over the summer.
SkyePharma's chief operating officer, Ken Cunningham, said: 'We are delighted that along with the three Phase III pivotal efficacy studies conducted for (US) NDA submission, we now have two further Phase III studies for European regulatory submission that have met their primary endpoints.'
ben.deighton@thomsonreuters.com
bsd
nordcaperen
- 14 Aug 2008 17:13
- 23 of 48
I'd be more delighted if they would sort out their Bond problem - Usually release a statement once a month, due one soon ! Next Tuesday would be nice - especially one carrying good news !
hangon
- 01 Sep 2008 10:49
- 25 of 48
Maybe good news, I'll believe it when it's done.
It does seem a bit careless to get into this situation in the first place....lacklustre management and maybe products that just don't quite match the hype.
This co has a long-history of non-delivery.
Let's hope the Bond issue is cleaned up.
driver
- 01 Sep 2008 11:38
- 26 of 48
1/09/2008
SkyePharma bond renegotiation deal seen 'this week'
AFX
LONDON, Sept 1 (Reuters) - Specialist drug delivery company SkyePharma Plc is set to announce a renegotiation of its convertible bonds this week, according to two analysts who cover the sector.
Both analysts, who asked not to be named, spoke to Reuters separately on Monday.
The company repeated on Monday a statement from last week, that a deal would be announced 'shortly'.
The company has a put option for 69 million pounds ($126.3 million) convertible bonds due at the earliest in May 2009, and another put option for 20 million pounds due in June 2010 at the earliest.
Without renegotiation, exercising these options could bankrupt the company.
The renegotiation of the bonds is expected to provide significant support to the share price. The shares were up 5 percent at 4.2 pence at 0849 GMT on Monday.
'The news, when the renegotiation is announced, should help drive the share price, therefore we're buyers. I still think fundamentally on an operational basis the stock is worth 31 pence per share,' Landsbanki analyst Shawn Manning said last week.
(Reporting by Ben Deighton; editing by Sue Thomas) ' ($1=.5461 Pound) Keywords: SKYEPHARMA/BONDS
tf.TFN-Europe_newsdesk@thomsonreuters.com
cynic
- 01 Sep 2008 12:12
- 27 of 48
nolt a stock i have followed even vaguely for a very long time ...... certainly the company has had a pretty torrid time, but the chart below shows an interesting break-out.
Toya is a great follower of pharmas (and perhaps farmers too!), so she may be a better source for reasoned comment
Toya
- 01 Sep 2008 12:40
- 28 of 48
Hi Cynic :) I rather lost faith in this company some time ago. But if they can renegotiate those bonds - and the market looks like it's anticipating that they will - then it might be worth another look.
If not: take heed of the warnings (as in above statement) that it could bankrupt the company
Toya
- 01 Sep 2008 12:50
- 30 of 48
You could certainly make a tidy profit if/when it does Driver!
Toya
- 01 Sep 2008 13:10
- 32 of 48
Well good luck then, Driver! I realise I may miss out here but I'm not going to shuffle things around today.
cynic
- 02 Sep 2008 08:29
- 33 of 48
hope u're not too badly burnt driver ..... everyone looks to be diving for the lifeboats now the new terms are out
kimoldfield
- 02 Sep 2008 09:14
- 35 of 48
Well, I'm not worried now, I certainly was before! I don't have vast sums of money riding on this share but I've always felt that, if they could get Flutiform to market then SKP's future would be assured: apart from crossing the t's and dotting the i's as it were, mission accomplished. Rosy future?, yes I believe so. Topped up yesterday at what I think is still a bargain price of 4.37.
cynic
- 02 Sep 2008 09:17
- 36 of 48
i am very thick on these things, but presumably the shares have not yet gone xr, so surely the re-calc should not be done until they do
hangon
- 02 Sep 2008 12:45
- 37 of 48
Well, Well, Well - what a mess these execs have achieved - Bonds that ran out to 2024 (?) are to be re-negotiated at a time when money is tight - did they buy with eyes shut? I hope their (then(), Advisors offered a Fee refund!
All this takes us away from the real issue - that this is a Co that trumpets much and has (so-far), failed to deliver a thing.
I recall several re-financing, so I don't think I'll put any more into this waster. This is yet further Dilution - Grr!
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The CONsolidation will give me an Op to buy cheaply, once the Execs have fallen out of the limelight.
Er, is there any good news buried inside this package of Gloom? - - - answers on a small stamp, please.
cynic
- 02 Sep 2008 13:03
- 39 of 48
has this drug passed ALL its trials yet? ...... if not, then your statement is very brave indeed
halifax
- 02 Sep 2008 13:05
- 40 of 48
driver how many shares @ 4p do you need in order to make a fortune?
hangon
- 03 Sep 2008 12:03
- 41 of 48
Not going bankrupt, eh? So you think these Bonds are going to be renegotiated "down"? - - - of course not...they will be renegotiated so we, shareholders suffer more. . . .that's why I shall wait . . . . . . . until the dust settles - and this "Could be some time"
For we all know that any sp can halve, and halve again.....few of us thought this would fall to 35p - but that looks a long-way off (ignoring the CONsolidation).
The reason for the low sp is the failure to achieve any regulatory clearance and massive debts that Execs must have found in their accounts after a particularly good drinking session. Where is the evidence "This is a good'un?"
- - - - - - - - No, I don't see it either.
Perhaps the name said it all:- sky - only we thought it meant we'd have riches - but it obscured sky-high costs.
+Anyone remember 80p - them thar days, eh?
The recent spike was caused by feel-good (manipulative) folk jumping on this news story and making MUCH more of it that it was worth...in a few days we shall see the Bond-news for what it is...and be v.lucky if it's at all neutral. The Bond-holders can takeover the business - it's their call....IMHO.
cynic
- 03 Sep 2008 12:30
- 42 of 48
so nearly allowed myself to get suckered into this one ...... phew!
hangon
- 05 Sep 2008 13:06
- 43 of 48
Rights Issue is confused by CONsolidation - DYOR -
Rights will be 1.5p multiplied by 100.
- based on 172 new shares for every 100 Existing.
. . . . Oh dear . . . . .
First you have to work out yr entirtlement ( grief, do they think there will be a Rush?).....then calculate your payment . . . . . . but expect to receive a CONsolidated share certificate of 100th of your "enlarged holding"
This example is for over 1million shares, - at current price that could have cost you 500-grand!( 50p/spare).
SO this stock is looking VERY sick today.
Suppose you have 1,111,000 shares.
divided by 100 = 11,110
multiply by 172 = 1,910,920...
you can pay 28,663.80
New holding in old-stock is 1,111,000 + 1,910.920
= 3,021,920
You will get a Certificate for 30,219. - that's your holding in "New" Ordinary shares.
+ + + + Can someone check this is correct?
What it means is that YOU are investing nearly 1 for every "new share" in this business - the Question in my mind is "Is it worth it?", for your old investment expectation appear to be worth very little.
hangon
- 15 Sep 2008 19:06
- 44 of 48
Are MM's blowing smoke?
Sells =9m, with Buys=3m
-yet sp rises 6% - - - - very odd - - - currently c. 2.5p
so why would anyone pay nearly double the (soon), Placing price . . . . ? No, not me either.
I'm doubtful...that I'll pay the 1.5p being asked - so I'm smelling a rat - these shares are being "soupped" ( is that a new "technical" Term?, as in souped-up).
driver
- 23 Oct 2008 16:13
- 45 of 48
Looking Good
SkyePharma Announces Successful Completion of Flutiform U.S. Clinical Trial Programme
http://moneyam.uk-wire.com/cgi-bin/articles/200810230700255058G.html
ahoj
- 23 Oct 2008 16:19
- 46 of 48
driver,
what does that mean fgor share price
hangon
- 15 Sep 2009 11:44
- 48 of 48
Little interest here, after 100:1 Consolidation (=June09),
In 2007 I said:-
Oh dear, oh dear an EGM to give our fast-talking but slow-acting execs more incentive. Really...and what happened to the last swathe of incentive - did it die "on the vine" as it were through oversight...did I miss a return to 8op?
No? you mean it's still about 25p like it was ages ago with the risk of an exec take-over?
SO "what" has happened since them? Where is the incentive for shareholders?
Ah! there's the real issue - don't pay the execs until they produce some
- and the (June 09) CONsolidation only seems to have given a broken beast enough energy to blink . . . .
v.Little interest here, so this is really for my own interest, at least my (now) handfull of shares can't get much worse, and grateful I didn't participate in the Rights Issue Jn2009, which would be like giving a dying buffalo a dose of rohipnol, just for fun.
Oh deary and Institutions paid nearly 1 pre- 2007 so their investment is about 1/100 value, doesn't mean Directors can't expect a bonus, of course not....Grr and Grr.
It's about time this level of performance was subject to retail investor anger. However, the Market is rigged to provide employment for some very dull types. What else is the explanation, eh?