As part of its Corporate Solutions business MoneyAM carries out development work for a number of large companies. We are pleased to tell you that we have this morning launched the second JPMorgan Telegraph Fantasy Fund Manager Game which we have developed, licensed and host.

Give it a go at: JP Morgan Fantasy Fund Manager

i am in. anyone up for a team. we weren't to shabby last year if memory serves me right.
Alex

Yes please, Alex

Yes please mike@moneyam.com

TOK

Sent you an email through moneyAM

Mikey
sent you and invite to your eamil address above

Anyone else,

Our team name is a very unimaginative 'moneyAM'

regards
Alex

"JP Morgan gets record 33m fine.

JP Morgan is fined a record 33m for failing to keep its clients' money separate from its own, by the city regulator."

Fantasy Fund Manager?.. have you lot checked that the 50,000 isn't a fantasy as well? -):

Robert - Message sent via Moneyam. TOK

TOK,

token on its way via email

Alex

Hi Alex. I'm now a team player. (Apologies for calling you Robert) TOK

TOK

Nw, welcome aboard

Alex

Im a team player too.

Wasn't Little Woman in our last team? Is she still around?

Yes I'm here....

and yes I'll join the team. :-) I'll send you my e-mail address through MoneyAm

From memory there were a few specific investments that could move 5% either way in one day. Part of the problem was timing the buy and sell (or at least when we could do it!)

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I have set up a team. Please feel free to join.

To join my team, you need to follow this link:

http://fantasyfundmanager.telegraph.co.uk/my_account/teams/?token=9ad0bd813b9f2e7f

If you do join my team, please email me, so that I can explain my strategy, how I intend to share out any prizes, etc.

Good luck everybody!

patroclus ,
why don't you join our team and explain your strategy?

Alex

Hi Pat. We are all members of Alex's team. Why don't you join us? Transfer fees may be involved to tempt us to leave. BTW it's skill not luck that counts. TOK

Well here is my initial choice of funds. 100% invested of course :-0)

Cash JPMorgan Elect Managed Cash 0.00 0.00%
Bonds JPMorgan Global High Yield Bond 17,000.00 17.00%
Bonds Royal London Index Linked Trust 8,000.00 8.00%
Overseas Equities Aberdeen Asian Smaller Companies IT plc 20,000.00 20.00%
Overseas Equities JPMorgan Overseas IT plc 10,000.00 10.00%
Overseas Equities Ruffer Investment Company 18,000.00 18.00%
Overseas Equities Threadneedle American Smaller Companies 12,000.00 12.00%
Specialist BlackRock Gold & General 15,000.00 15.00%

here is my proposed listing:

Cash JPMorgan Elect Managed Cash 25,000.00 25.00%
Bonds Old Mutual Global Strategic Bond 15,000.00 15.00%
Bonds JPMorgan Global High Yield Bond 15,000.00 15.00%
Overseas Equities JPMorgan US 10,000.00 10.00%
Specialist JPMorgan Emerging Markets Infrastructure 5,000.00 5.00%
Specialist JPMorgan New Europe 5,000.00 5.00%
UK Equities Liontrust Intellectual Capital 25,000.00 25.00%

Alex; I had some cash initially in my selection but decided to lump into a high yield bond to give a better upside

I've saved a dollop of cash to play with.

Cash JPMorgan Elect Managed Cash 25,000.00 25.00%
Overseas Equities First State Greater China Growth 20,000.00 20.00%
Overseas Equities JPMorgan US Smaller Companies 15,000.00 15.00%
Specialist First State Indian Subcontinent 20,000.00 20.00%
UK Equities Standard Life UK Smaller Companies 20,000.00 20.00%

Hmmm, maybe I will join your team.

Have you got room for a slim one?

I am happy to join your team. If that's OK, please tell me the token code.

The rules allow us to join up to 5 teams. So you welcome to join my team, as well as being in your own team.

Due to popular demand, I have managed to recruit the maximum 20 members for my team.

However, I am allowed to create up to 5 teams. So I have started a 2nd team. If you haven't joined the 1st team, you are welcome to join the 2nd team.

The token for the 2nd team is:

694cdaa8f4a63e1e

patroclus,
the key for our team is b28d66de1c37c33f
welcome aboard
Alex

Twice I have researched and made selections and the system just says I have cash.


Guess what, I just logged in and it says "Your selection was saved at 21:20:34 on 30 Jun 2010" - and it still says cash - no funds

I may just leave it as cash.............

Hi LW. Nice to meet up again. I think you'll find your "saved" selection will show as active tomorrow when today's EOD prices are factored in. But, then again, I could be wrong. Bullie should know.

Hi The Other Kevin!

I would have expected to be able to trade this evening, based on last nights purchases as they were based on close of business prices yesterday, not today's close of business prices.

Little woman the game goes live at midnight tonight when your selection is processed, so you are in cash till then

Thanks,

I better check the closing prices for today on what I picked!

LW sweeps into the lead! Well done!

Thanks .....

I think only because I have not used all my cash.... lets see how long it lasts!

Thanks for the code. I've joined your team under the pseudonym mcmayhem. I've jumped to the top of the board - I hope that bodes well! It might be a different story tomorrow!

Thanks to anybody who joined my team.

There are a few usernames on my team that I can't identify. Please contact me - I might need to send you a share of the prizes if we win!

They are:

elevendai
Leicester
theone442
Platica
oliver55
catmiaow

I see that theone442 also appears on the MoneyAM team.

How is everyone doing on this? I notice a lack of feedback from the teams. What position are they?

It's too embarrassing!

+0.16% Position 20781. Help!

Your teams
MoneyAM (Rank: 58, Status: Active)Manage
Rank User Change %
1 little woman 1.73%
2 theone442 0.71%
3 oliver55 0.60%
4 robertalexander 0.59%
5 Vesuvius 0.13%
6 mcmayhem -0.11%
7 BullShare -0.24%
team Performance 0.49%

+2.17%

Position 4371 was 2600 yesterday.

We've put on a spurt. Team position is now 49th! I wonder how many teams there are. Anyone know?

49 :-)

+2.38 position 2134

Haystack, may I ask why have you not joined the moneyam team?

I got caught out with the rule about not being allowed to buy back a share sold in the previous 7 days. Trying to get the trade timings is really difficult because of the restrictions

I haven't joined any teams. I also haven't traded. I just bought a portfolio at random and have stuck to the same selection all the time.

Can I still join?

My selections are

Cash (15%)
First State Global Emerging Markets Leaders +3.51%
Fidelity China Special Situations plc +7.18%
Artemis UK Special Situations +7.17%
Gartmore Global Trust plc +5.34%
JPMorgan Global Ex UK Bond +0.28%

+3.25% now.

Haystack,

if you would like to join our merry band then the key number you need is b28d66de1c37c33f
welcome aboard
Alex

Joined

Thanks

well i am doing badly, sat at game position 23,232 and -0.88%, for some reason i am bottom of the MoneyAM team :(

However, the good news is my dog, Dobby, who I lucky dipped is 3,918 with a gain of 3.3%.

There must be a moral there :-)

PS My dog is not eligible to win the game and is playing for fun only!

Lucky that you don't work in a financially related industry!

;-)

+2% Position 13913.

The vast improvement in my portfolio was achieved by using the Swedish Fiscal Management system.

What a pin ? ;-0)

He must have got an advanced copy, unless he speaks Swedish!

Swedish Fiscal Policy 2010
The 2010 report of the Swedish Fiscal Policy Council was published on 17 May 2010. There is now an English translation of the summary available. The full report will be translated later this year.

:-)

Some years ago, during a period of wildly volatile interest rates etc., the Swedes adopted a policy of doing nothing. It worked very well!

I believe they called it "The pipe smokers policy" or something like that.

;-)

He is at it again Michael.
Gausie- 25 Aug 2010 08:21 - 2534 of 2536
Batty
Off to rainham M&S for a blowjob - any message for your misses?

My monthly position is now 371 up 3%

The do nothing system is working well

The team is 19th today, quite an improvement.

Here is our team's performance, must be something wrong, I am last ;-0)


1 mcmayhem 10.30%
2 haystack 7.46%
3 oliver55 7.06%
4 Vesuvius 6.81%
5 little woman 6.60%
6 theone442 6.43%
7 robertalexander 5.45%
8 BullShare 4.97%

As a team, we have moved up to 14 overall and 17 for the month

I am having problems disposing of a fund and then buying a new one. I amend the portfolio and it shows it changed. I save the changes and the portfolio is shown as changed, but keeps reverting back to original.

We are sorry that you are experiencing problems with changing your portfolio.

This may be due to the selection not being valid and an error message being displayed or "red cards" from the Referee on the right hand side under the allocation pie chart. Please check carefully for large red warning messages above the selection when you have pressed the save button.

If a selection has been saved, a large blue confirmation message will be displayed, please carefully check the confirmation of the changes to ensure they are as you wish to request. You may find it useful to make the changes in the following order:

1. Remove funds that you wish to sell
2. Add new funds
3. Re-balance the remaining funds
4. Check that all allocations and funds are as you expect
5. Save selection

Alternatively your selection may have been removed by you "amending" a previously saved selection. Once you have a saved selection, if you press the "amend" button before it has been processed, this will remove it from the queue and you will need to re-save it again and wait until the time that is shown in the confirmation. Please note that all trades before 12 noon are processed the same night, after 12 noon are processed the following night.

I have tried for days to get rid of one of my holdings - J P Morgan Global ex UK Bond. It said I had a saved ytransaction and I have left it alone for a couple of days and I still have it. I have been trying to get rid of it for more than a week now.

Haystack,

If you tell me your specific selection I will try it from here to see what the problem is. Please can you give all allocations for the whole portfolio.

eg:
Fund A 10%
Fund B 5%
Fund C remove
Fund Z new 10%

Karl

Don't tell him Pike!

There are a bunch of trades in my trades history for yesterday that I didn't make.

28-09-2010 Debit Commission 0.49
28-09-2010 Buy JPMorgan Global Ex UK Bond 97.85
28-09-2010 Sell Artemis UK Special Situations 492.65
28-09-2010 Sell Gartmore Global Trust plc 403.80
28-09-2010 Sell First State Global Emerging Markets Leaders 261.06
28-09-2010 Sell Fidelity China Special Situations plc 182.86

These are current holdings
Fund Type Fund Day % Overall % Value Curr. %
Cash JPMorgan Elect Managed Cash 0.00 16,287.36 15.05%

Specialist First State Global Emerging Markets Leaders -0.46 10.43% 21,605.44 19.96%

Specialist Fidelity China Special Situations plc -0.99 14.88% 22,566.86 20.85%

UKEquities Artemis UK Special Situations -0.23 12.68% 16,240.96 15.00%

Overseas Equities Gartmore Global Trust plc 0.15 12.52% 16,304.06 15.06%

Bonds JPMorgan Global Ex UK Bond 0.28 1.42% 15,235.36 14.08%

Total Allocation: 108,240.04 100%

Haystack,

The small trades are re-balance trades, they are detailed in-depth in the FAQ section on the website:

My Trades History shows small amounts of buys and sells for my funds. Why is this?

From your account holdings/transactions and portfolio I can see that if you were trying to sell out of JPMorgan Global Ex UK Bond and reinvest in a Specialist/Equity fund you would not have been allowed due to the maximum Specialist/Equity rule, which is 75% of the portfolio. A large red error message would have been displayed above the selection.

Please see another FAQ relating to problems changing your portfolio:

I am having problems making changes to my portfolio.

Thanks

up 14.49% pos 168.

The team is in 4th place in this month's league (so far) and 13th in the overall game, Not bad at all!!

1 Nicks1 16.46%
2 mcmayhem 14.85%
3 mastermariner 13.86%
4 BullShare 13.66%
5 little woman 13.16%
6 theone442 13.07%
7 oliver55 12.96%
8 robertalexander 12.49%
9 Vesuvius 11.81%
10 haystack 11.00%

OK team, I've got 29k in cash. Any suggestions, please?

Natural resources doing Ok at the moment

Is there a problem with this system. My percentage on the team list is 0%. My portfolio is higher than yesterday, but the chart shows it down. Last night all the team values were 0% and there was no winner's chart functioning.

haystack not to sure what happened there but is shows you up 15.16%

It started working during yesterday.

Any ideas on how we can win the competition? It must be worth a try?

overall now 17

1 Nicks1 20.07%
2 mastermariner 19.66%
3 oliver55 18.58%
4 BullShare 18.30%
5 theone442 18.24%
6 robertalexander 17.20%
7 Vesuvius 15.24%
8 little woman 14.86%
9 mcmayhem 14.02%
10 haystack 13.62%
team Performance 16.98%

I've got 22k in a very poorly performing fund and 8k cash. All suggestions gratefully considered. (Vesuvius)

Kevin

Try J p Morgan UK smaller co

Done - thanks BB

macmayhem: I wasn't ignoring you but only spotted your December 31 message today. Thanks for the invitation but it's too late now. Sorry.

Are we entering a team this year?

I guess we should. We are only allowed to create 2 teams, but I have just created the MoneyAm team - hope no-one minds. I've set it up Prize allocation: Team manager to split equally between all members

If you use the internal message facility and give me your e-mail address in the message I'll send you an invite so you can join the team.

Well done LW and thanks for the invitation. Address is in the internal post.

Thanks - invitations sent

We are now a team of two. Thanks.

room for one more?

room for one more?

Of course

I can only let you have an invitation if I have your e-mail address - please use the internal mail.

We need at least 5 members before the team can go forward. Any more takers?

Ok, just realised the game starts on Aug 16, so everything needs to be inplace by the 15th Aug.

Count me in !!!

mike@moneyam.com

little woman
I replied twice to your email via the reply link on the email. Perhaps it didn't work. I have sent out another just now via the MAM remailer system. Tell me if it works this time.

Haystack

I got all our replies. I had to go to the telegraph site and send an invitation to the e-mail address you gave me. They then send you a "token". Go to the team competition page and enter your token and you will then automatically join the team.

lm
I haven't received a token!

I've discovered I can generate one and sent it via the internal system. If you don't receive it in the next 24 hours I'll e-mail it directly myself.

lm
That worked fine, now a member.

Welcome aboard, Haystack!

tw

Maybe this years winner will be the one who loses the least money. Market turmoil.

6 days left to register

Ttt

Hi LW, I've registered, no idea how I become a member of the team though?

Thanks for sorting out the invite the other day LW - joined now. PTH to join message little woman with your e-mail address and you'll get an invite e-mailed to you.

Don't forget you have until 12.00 (noon) today if you want to make any purchases tonight to start the competition!

Any transactions after then will not go though until tomorrow night

Group hug! Good skill everyone.

I went in earlier today (about at about 10-ish) and all the funds I'd selected previously had been removed from my portfolio. I added them back but wondering if that has that happened to anyone else?

As of 3.15pm mine are OK and are "being processed."

Not looking too good :( How can I lose 9.22% in one day, when the fund in question (L&G UK Alpha) only dropped by 0.39% yesterday?? Do you pay the full bid/offer spread (which no-one does in real life). That's going to severely restrict it if you can lose that much on the bid/offer. It effectively means you shouldn't use unit trusts as they can never hope to keep pace with OEIC's which are single priced.

I seem to be down 2.84% and have funds I can't even remember choosing. I guess the software chose them for me!

It seems that you do lose the bid/offer on unit trusts in addition to the 0.5-1% commission, although no official is commenting on the issue on their forum. I'm quite sure this didn't happen last year. Best option would be to avoid them altogether I think - you can lose as much as 10% just on the initial charges.

I notice that the team position is not being shown today.

Off the radar?

Team position still not being shown.

You lot are useless :-))

The team positions are still not showing.

The feature to show the top 250 teams is not working either.

Team position fixed.

We are number 36 in the league up from yesterday's position 44.

Whoops our fault, for some reason the system decided that if you werent in the Top 20 you were worthless ;-0)

M

And we are.....!!!

We will be in the top 10 soon!

Not if my performance has anything to do with it! Although I think having to ditch 3 or 4 auto-selected stocks on Day 1 didn't help very much

It looks like we are in position 30 now.

Good heavens, I'm in the black!

Reality returns. Back in the red.

Team members are invited for my 2 teams the tokens are given below.
Cheers

Team ELLIOT Token is "a8f0ccc4d2413d6e"

Team ZACK Token is "5a4cdace4aa29c1d"

bb123 - Why should we? Is there a Golden Handshake? What's the position of your teams at 08.00am today?

You are allowed to be in 5 teams.

Team now in position 20, yay.

How many teams are there?

21 :-)

They won't tell you... But there's at least 32,000 individuals taking part (because I was roughly in position 32,000 on day one!). You can supposedly view the top 250 teams on the site, but it doesn't work for me, I just get a blank page.

The top 250 teams does work sometimes. I seem to remember there were about 80 teams.

There appear to be 76 teams and these are they. Column 1 is tody and column 2 is yesterday. We are number 21. The % is how the team is doing averaged out across the team..

1 1 NOVICE INVESTMENTS -0.81%
2 3 AnixterUxbridge -1.29%
3 2 Victoria Street Investments -1.36%
4 7 TeamBG -1.38%
5 6 IAM -1.47%
6 4 Figgy Pudding -1.52%
7 9 Humphrey Rides Again -1.61%
8 11 Granddad and the Rattlers -1.70%
9 14 Hydra -1.78%
10 5 Hobart -1.82%
11 10 Fiveways -1.82%
12 17 Barnett Waddingham -1.84%
13 16 Team Mercer -1.93%
14 13 Merindol -1.94%
15 15 HayziFantayzi -1.97%
16 19 THE TRIPLE A-TEAM -1.99%
17 20 Team Meerkat -2.00%
18 8 scratch -2.04%
19 12 Ogier Fund Managers -2.05%
20 24 The Farnhamite Fund -2.05%
21 26 MoneyAm -2.13%
22 27 Money Wasting Experts -2.15%
23 22 The Not So Wee Dram -2.17%
24 25 Bankersbonuses -2.17%
25 30 Stacks -2.20%
26 18 Fund Solutions -2.28%
27 23 Cadogan Bandits -2.30%
28 40 The Heatons -2.31%
29 34 Naked Shorts -2.34%
30 29 Toddys -2.34%
31 21 Funds Selectorate -2.38%
32 35 Tecspec -2.40%
33 32 IFDS client admin -2.43%
34 36 todddy -2.44%
35 31 The Funds Team -2.49%
36 51 Marauders -2.49%
37 50 Torchwood -2.54%
38 52 Portland Farm Piggy Bankers -2.55%
39 33 Funny money -2.58%
40 43 The Palace of Brokers -2.61%
41 44 The banks wont win -2.62%
42 48 mazzasmillions -2.63%
43 28 RHCY Management -2.65%
44 38 Mako Brako -2.73%
45 42 HCP -2.73%
46 39 Gossip Girls -2.74%
47 54 Sheshares -2.74%
48 45 Marketblocker -2.75%
49 46 Special Group -2.75%
50 41 Full of Bull -2.77%
51 47 MSE02 -2.79%
52 53 MSE01 -2.80%
53 49 Game Pie -2.81%
54 55 Moonraker -2.87%
55 69 Chumleys Big Hoss -2.99%
56 37 Glenmavis -3.04%
57 56 teamTRIUMPH -3.06%
58 67 Vagina Blitz -3.12%
59 68 Picnic -3.16%
60 57 hallelujar -3.21%
61 58 hallelujah -3.21%
62 59 Utopia -3.21%
63 60 Zoe -3.21%
64 61 Roadrage -3.21%
65 62 Elsie -3.21%
66 63 Grandee -3.21%
67 64 Peace -3.21%
68 65 Brooke -3.21%
69 66 Mia -3.21%
70 71 Audley Capital -3.27%
71 72 MSE Comps -3.31%
72 70 The Dukes of a Few Counties -3.51%
73 73 Iggyness -3.66%
74 75 Down and Down -4.09%
75 74 optimates -4.23%
76 76 The Warriors of CISX -4.55%

We seem to be 5th for the month!

Shurely shome mishtake, looking at the performance of my choices!

That 5th place is a bit artificial for the month. There hasn't been a trading day yet. I bet it is random as no one can be up or down on the month yet. We will soon be back to our correct place after midnight tonight.

Has anyone had any movement today. It looks like everyone is changed by 0.00%. Maybe they didn't update the figures.

My account has changed, recovered 1% ish it seems since yesterday.

As an aside, we don't seem to be doing too well either as individuals or as a team!

Our time will come!

It all went pear shaped in late September for me!! The overall top team is 0.01% in the blue, so it's probably fair to say very few are doing great..