The "Con"servative Party, What are they good for? (this was the Thread Title but looks like it was to long to print up).

Well they primarily exist to support the extremes of big business and Off-Shore Tax Dodgers, using various methods to get elected, for example Divide and Conquer and playing to the less intelligent of the population through the Gutter Press etc.

Here's the latest wind-up rant from their leader Cameron.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13152349

Stan,

The "Cons" Party is the final resting place for failing old etonians.

Historically....... Sorting out the mess left by the Labour Party!!!
Sorting out the mess left by the Labour Party!!!
Ditto,Ditto,Ditto, Ditto,Ditto,Ditto,Ditto,Ditto........... Amen!

Thread's only 3 posts old and already we have 2 Con. Rants.. One by Cameron and one from CC -):

So a rant is anyone who disagrees with you - OK.

Not wanting to come over as an arch tory, because I'm not, but is it really fair that those of us who work and pay tax should finance perfectly able bodied people to do nothing?

If you have responsibilites you should accept them and deal with them, simple as that.

Nothing to do with agreeing or not, a rant is a rant, also if you ask a question do have the patience to wait for a reply instead of answering it yourself.

"Not wanting to come over as an arch tory, because I'm not, but is it really fair that those of us who work and pay tax should finance perfectly able bodied people to do nothing?"

No of course not and no won is saying that. Suggest you read it again.

"If you have responsibilities you should accept them and deal with them, simple as that."

Again not a case of "responsibilities" or not, more a case of helping people deal with mental illnesses in most of those cases/figures listed.

Stan, in your usual pompous manner, you have already dictated the direction in which you wish any debate to proceed; I refer to the 'con' in your opening statement. Your mind is already cast in stone and any discussion futile. For what it's worth (probably not very much) I find it hard to believe anyone in their right mind would trust the Labour party in any form of government. But, deep seated prejudices dictate voting patterns on the whole rather than any rational thought process; and of course which party individuals believe will give them the most for nothing.

Harry,

In general, I think there are a small number of real scroungers.
Also, there are a number of able bodied individuals, who are probably better paid to be unemployed due to their inherent characteristics.
I think if there is genuine abuse, fraud, or false claims, then the culprits should be brought to book. You can stop the payments and in certain cases fine those with assets.

But punishment by imprisonment etc. would cost the state and probably be less than useful.

Although, I don't think that a just a slap on the wrists and repayment of false claims is sufficient in some cases.

However, I think the tory leadership shows questionable morality, when you consider, that Cameron and Osborne made, in the opinion of many, "false" expense claims, repaid them, and then were elected by the tories party to be their leaders, with possibility of being Prime minister and chancellor.

This points to the public at large, that tory governing morality is, "what you can get away with", and they are influenced by this philosophy, which they then use it to justify their own criminal actions.

Corrupt leadership, leads to corruption of society and the state.
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In addition, more than balancing the "social security" fraudsters, are the various forms of "tax dodgers and continuing "expense" claimants such as (MPs, etc.,) who cheat the overall general public.
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I would like to see the latter group chased more successfully and prosecuted etc..

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However, while considering the cost to the public of the above, those who are shrieking at the moment about EU rules, regulations and payments, could considered the effect on their private purses by the devaluation of the pound sterling against the euro since July of last year. They may reconsider the stewardship of the British economy and reconsider the PR of the two spivs Dave and Georgie boy.

Don't waste your time posting on this thread.

Stan - How can a statement of fact be a rant? Labour not to put to fine a point on it 'Cocked Up', (Again). As you well know history has a habit of repeating itself, eventually the Conservative Party will sort out the economy. Then once again will become complacent lose the confidence of the electorate and lose a General Election to Labour. And so it goes, on and on. I personally have no confidence in any politician, or for that matter any particular party, sad I know. :O)

I see Aids, the leading light of intelligentsia has written,

Read to-day Clegg and Cameron split again,

Cameron protecting his private privileges and chiefdom while Clegg is looking for votes.

Interesting how many peerages he has given the nation over the last 12mths.

Were they gifted for services render?

Is Cameron still believing in his Andy and Murdock.

Stan - I sense a deep seated anger, are you sleeping OK? How's your bowels?

CC - absolutely correct, Labour are not to be trusted in any way. As has been well documented they spent far more than their income, an obvious recipe for disaster, and encouraged a benefits society. Give someone money to do nothing and they will most likely do nothing.

Fred - can't read your posts mate, they're unintelligible.

H6,

Thank you for your well argued response. If you have trouble understanding my postings and those of others, you can get a second hand dictionary quite cheaply. It may help you a little.

But, I can see you have the necessary acumen to be fodder for the tory old boy and blue rinse brigade.

Mind Cameron is showing his true colours and Libyan leadership from behind.

I am told that the grandees are trying to get rid of him.

(Knifed in the back ar such an early age. What a shame!)

I am interested to see the next bye election results.

Can you measure the demise of the Liberal party and the coalition in days or weeks.

Mind a bit of bashing of the of the socially incompetent will divert attention from the underlying economy should bolster C and Dave positions.

What a leadership, but right for its motley crew.

Point perfectly proven.

H6.

Good. They also have dictionaries with pictures for you.
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Does this mean a cabinet minister is saying the tory leadership are liars?



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13181756

AV campaign rows causing coalition conflict, says Huhne


Chris Huhne says he has been shocked by the conduct of Conservatives in the No campaign


Senior Liberal Democrat minister Chris Huhne has threatened legal action over "untruths" told by Conservatives opposed to the Alternative Vote system.




What a party!

Dictionaries with pictures you say, mmmmm.

In the face of such crushing intellectualism I may have to take Aldwickk's advice and bow out of this debate.

Two oracles down.

How many more to go.


Hear Ladbrokes are offering 3:1 on a general election within the year!

The old "Con" party supporters seem a bit quiet on MAM these days don't you think?

There is a new virus about and it is catching fast. You start with a urge, then it takes over. If caught early the symptoms can be stopped in their tracks. God help you if you do not seek treatment. It becomes untreatable. You go round the twist just thinking about the conservatives 24/7. Please visit the doctor if any of the above signs appear.

Its caught by posting on this site. So Don't.

Dreams,

I don't have tory nightmares and sleep well.

But, I do have a sense of amusement, which is often provoked by the contortions of this present coalition government under the auspices of Cameron, Clegg, Osborne, Aschroft and Murdock.

Perhaps, you need a sedative

Baron Ashcroft?.. now what happened to him?

Still counting his loot (Tax avoidance ?) while hiding in the Cayman Islands.

But still pulling the torie strings.

The previous parliament will be remembered as a period of MP corruption, but when the veil is lifted from this government's period of abuses, it will probably smell sweeter.

"By any other name it will smell foul"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/07/andy-coulson-arrest-phone-hacking... More exposure of what the "Con" Party really stands for.

Some advice for Mr Hunt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS3htJBdXDs&feature=share

Yawn.

Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown (but "not very" close at the moment) and Cameron's mate i.e. Murdoch, pulls out of the BSkyB bid.. for the moment.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14290322 Cameron, Osborne and now Gove up to their necks in it.

Mummies Boy, Mr Sanctimonious, and al-round Tory git now on DID. R4.

Lansy, where is the book I wrote on "How to do U-turns"?

I will lend it to you and to read when I retire you.

Forgot! I gave it to Georgie Boy.

What is that?

George is reading up on jumping boats with Clegg and working out his pension.

Is it true some of the cons, have been canvassing for Cameron to step down.

He started off splitting the country and now he split his own party.

"Is it true some of the cons, have been canvassing for Cameron to step down." No no he's doing fine, leave him there -):

Sorry.

You are correct!

8-)

Your not wrong -):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01by7c2 Caring Conservatives?

Dodgy Tory alert http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSNoa_VVVAI&feature=related

About time you put this thread to sleep and put it out of its misery ..... and b4 u say it , i thought of it 1st about Fred

Stan.

Watch out there is stalker about.

Not sure if he wears high heels or not.

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Saw the interview live.

Embarrassing and felt sorry for her.

But, if Osborne and chums are prepared to sacrifice the country for their ambitions, why not their "colleagues"?

Just another Hunt.

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Is this the Hinge and Brackett thread?

UK Manufacturing Output Contracts Again in June

UK has still the sixth largest manufacturing industry in the world.

For how long at this rate of decline?

don't panic Captain Mainwaring.

I'm not, unless there is a complete collapse of the economy, I think I will be OK.

As I have children and grandchildren, I wish there would be a tiny little bit of thinking and thought, which would go beyond the daily headlines and short term political "expediencies", by those in who are in "power", but obviously not in "control".

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/davidhughes/100171357/hsbc-money-laundering-scandal-casts-a-cloud-over-lord-green-the-trade-minister/

Answers on a post card please Stevie boy?

Honours for some of the Tory boys? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19461367

Fewer cancer patients will have to look for work while receiving treatment, under revised proposals from the Department for Work and Pensions.

Caring "Con"servatives I think you'll agree.

More despicable than that:-


Inflation link for annual benefit increases may be axed
Job centre Jobseeker's allowance is among the benefits that would be cut under the plan

The government is considering breaking the link between inflation and the automatic annual increase in benefits, the BBC understands.

Many benefits - excluding the state pension - would be frozen for two years, with future increases pegged to average earnings rather than prices.



Hooray for this unprincipled coalition government.

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Should that be horror!

Mr.Dodgy? A. Mitchell refuses to answer the "Specific question" just put to him on The World at One regarding what he said and what he didn't say to the Policeman. No real surprise is it as he's a fairly high ranking "Con" Party individual.

why doesn't Cameron do something decisive and sack him, even his own party dislike this loathsome individual.

Perhaps Mitchell will go the same way as Hunt.. that other oink in some sort of a re-shuffle.

"Were kind of Spivy" It's official then, the "Con" party are full of crooks.. According to the right horrible member for Dover at least.

Surely "were" means they no longer are! :-)

Con Party corruption alert? http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/episode-guide/series-118/episode-4

Skinny,

Could be you were late last week and you are late again to-day, rather than the late Skinny.


8-)))))))))))))))))))()

Another example of "caring" "Con"servatism? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20624552

Another "Con" Party cover-up: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-20662412

Pat Finucane's widow, Geraldine

"At every turn, dead witnesses have been blamed and defunct agencies found wanting. Serving personnel and active state departments appear to have been excused.

"The dirt has been swept under the carpet without any serious attempt to lift the lid on what really happened to Pat and so many others.

"This report is a sham, this report is a whitewash, this report is a confidence trick dressed up as independent scrutiny and given invisible clothes of reliability.

"But most of all, most hurtful and insulting of all, this report is not the truth."">Pat Finucane's widow, Geraldine

"At every turn, dead witnesses have been blamed and defunct agencies found wanting. Serving personnel and active state departments appear to have been excused.

"The dirt has been swept under the carpet without any serious attempt to lift the lid on what really happened to Pat and so many others.

"This report is a sham, this report is a whitewash, this report is a confidence trick dressed up as independent scrutiny and given invisible clothes of reliability.

"But most of all, most hurtful and insulting of all, this report is not the truth."

Thatcher snuffs it.. Bad news as it's 34 years to late IMHO.

Corruption alert!

Large "Con" Party donor the employer JCB chief Bamford among 30 new peers, Sir Anthony Bamford is one of 14 people nominated by David Cameron.

Don't worry, Camy will sort it out Mrs.. he's just got to pop down to the post office for a stamp http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25526092

Some nice people in the "Con" Party, I think you'll agree http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28451998

THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED , because its a waste of space

The only waste of space here is between your ears aldgit.

Further corrupt practises by the "Con" Party can be posted here as usual.

Where can we post the corrupt practices of members of the other political parties?

Anywhere you like EL, just start another thread.

Exec,

That would be a wast of a thread.

Just leaving empty pages!

8-)

Waits til I'm out the Country then calls a General Election.. tut tut that's not cricket you know TM.

Police cuts seriously hindering the surveillance of thousands of terrorist suspects as we speak.

Similarly with NHS cuts resulting in even more pressure on our already over worked health workers,

We have a General Election on June the 8th so vote this lot responsible for the above out...and keep them out.

What do you expect from the present tory party who operate out of self-interest not realizing that in the long run they are not insulated from the rest of society?

If society falls apart it will backfire back onto them.

Crime rate up, public health deteriorates, social division and fragmentation increases and then hostility increases with general deteriorations in its overall wellbeing.

What a bunch of tossers

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Tories tossers.. now tell us something we don't know.

Not voted Tory at a General Election for 25 years but will be this time round.

Corbyn , Abbott , McDonnell and co are a bunch of clowns who aren't fit to lace my shoes let alone run a country.

Thank gawd they got no chance and the sooner they get booted out the better.

Dil

I totally agree , Fred won't be voting for them he never votes. it's a wonder why Stan don't kick him up the arse to go and vote . Did you vote for BREXIT Stan ?

Dil you say that you haven't voted Tory for 25 years..why was that?

What do you say then Dil?

He is looking for his boots and costume.

Sorry Stan only just saw your question and the answer is that in my opinion they weren't the best option in 1997 , 2001 , 2005 , 2010 and 2015 where each time I voted Labour.

Couldn't stand Cameron and Osbourne and would not vote Tory if those two were still in charge this time round.

Corbyn , Abbott and co are a total joke and gawd help us if they ever ended up running the country in tandem with that Scottish jerk Sturgeon.

Welsh nationalists are just as loony as the SNP , UKIP ... job done and Lib Dems are nuts too so by a process of elimination there's only the Tories left who by coincidence agree with my views on Brexit.

Hope this helps and at least I vote Fred.

If Labour lose my constituency they will likely end up with less than 100 MP's so my vote doesn't really count except in the overall totals.

Thanks Dil, can't be doing with personalities because it's the conduct and interests of the parties that concern me the most.. see my opening post.

When voting having priorities is an essential element where I'm concerned.

Tactically in order to get rid of or stop them (the Con artists) getting power.

So you prefer Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott then Stan, 3 devout supporters of the IRA, Hamas and Hezbollah and other terrorist groups.

George before posting suggest you read the post that you are responding to more throughly.

''it's the conduct and interests of the parties that concern me the most..

Tactically in order to get rid of or stop them (the Con artists) getting power''.

Stan, I stand by my post as the only alternative to the Tories is Labour and the 3 irks I mentioned above are indeed Labour MP's.

George.

Haven't you notice Wars End when Combatants speak to one another.

I have known one or two murderers in my time, as yet I haven't committed murder and was prepared to talk to them.

Also, one can have sympathy with the goals of a group without condoning their methods of attempting to obtain those goals.

I spoke to my sister who is a convinced tory earlier to-day and don't feel contaminated.

''Haven't you notice Wars End when Combatants speak to one another''.

Fred, and all 3 had absolutely nothing to do with the peace process, they hate Britain and the British, encouraged killing of innocent men women and children but still hung around for the money.They all have blood on their hands but not for being combatants, they never got close enough for combat. All 3 should never have been allowed to stand as MP's

George,

I don't think "they" hate Britain, just some of the false "standards", morality and political "hypocrisy" set by and followed by some in the UK.

There are double standards applied by many political leaders and followers, often for personal gain of themselves and those of their own ilk.

Labour is awash with hypocrites like Abbott, I'm thinking schools here

"Stan, I stand by my post as the only alternative to the Tories is Labour and the 3 irks I mentioned above are indeed Labour MP's."

Freudian slip George.. how revealing.

Not at all Stan my post 87 makes it quite clear what I think of these individuals.

Very much so George it's just that you are refusing to admit it.

Just like to add Stan that once we sort Brexit out and Labour get rid of the current left wing loonies running and ruining the party I'll probably end up voting Labour again for the next 25 years.

Would never consider voting for the bunch of clowns in charge at present.

Dil, put your dislike of individuals to one side for a while and vote for the best manifesto is my advice to you.

Good advice Stan , am going to vote Tory

Your choice of course aldwickkk.. but it's not without "your own personal responsible" for the rest of "our society".

Another devious Tory trying to play both ends against the middle http://www.burnleyexpress.net/news/politics/burnley-tory-candidate-reported-to-police-1-8580415

Stuff and nonsense, smacks of headline damaging tactics. Labour are worried the Tories will take Burnley. Remains to be seen if a criminal offence has been committed. Just have to wait and see.

Tories taking Burnley? Hardly considering that the bloke's considered a prize pratt by people who know him 😃

The day has arrived so time to kick the Con-artists out..and keep them out

**** off stan - neanderthal northerner

Abusive uninformed poster alert from JS!

Looking forward to a decent FTSE rise tomorrow on the back of a comprehensive Conservative victory.

Really? what constituency are you in George?

The tories are still the largest party - no matter how much spin the beeb puts on it

Has George gone into hiding...just like his beloved Mrs Mayhem?

No not at all Stan, I have to say that I completely mis-judged that, I didn't believe so many northern voters could be so gullible as to swallow Labour's sweets for all campaign, but I was wrong.

Really? what constituency are you in George?

Stan my Conservative candidate secured a majority of more than 17,000 polling 55.4% of the total votes.

Really? what constituency are you in George?

Yes really, if you want to know then do a little research, all I will say is the candidate is female and travels around the constituency frequently, not just when she needs our vote.

Just as i thought .72% turnout for 18-25 year olds. Plus UKIP contesting the election, and taking votes away from the Tory's. They should have concentrated just to get Nigel Farage a seat in parliament.

Why does she move on frequently?

Do the police move her on?

"Yes really, if you want to know then do a little research, all I will say is the candidate is female and travels around the constituency frequently, not just when she needs our vote."

Oh do grow up and stop being so childish George, just give a civil answer to a civil question.

Ha! Ha!----Stan you remind me of the school kid who always wants to know what other kids have put for answers because you have no idea or, are just too bone idle to work it out for yourself.

"Yes really, if you want to know then do a little research, all I will say is the candidate is female and travels around the constituency frequently, not just when she needs our vote."

Oh do grow up and stop being so childish George, just give a civil answer to a civil question.

George? come back all is...still to be resolved.


"Yes really, if you want to know then do a little research, all I will say is the candidate is female and travels around the constituency frequently, not just when she needs our vote."

Oh do grow up and stop being so childish George, just give a civil answer to a civil question.


We know your on right now.

Troll alert!!!

Stan I wasn't going to reply to your post 116 as it was a C & P of 114, seems my post was spot on, on both accounts.

George.


2517GEORGE 109

Stan my Conservative candidate secured a majority of more than 17,000 polling 55.4% of the total votes.

That seems to be a higher % of the mad than in a normal population.

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Check your water supply!

8-)

George the chances of you getting anything spot on are about as good as your "current" leader's.

When your in a hole it's usually a good idea to stop digging...but be my guest if you prefer not too.

Ha! Ha! Stan you are the one who wants to know who my Conservative candidate is and is either too thick to work out she might be, or too bone idle to do so. Be careful you don't fall in that hole you've dug.

George come back all is forgiven... honestly 😂

George and Mrs Mayhem...enjoying a spot of gardening together.

Hiding each other's mess or themselves?

''.enjoying a spot of gardening together.'' Spot on Stan although it was hedge trimming not digging a hole, talking of which I might invite you and Fred along for a garden party.

As you are such a good capitalist you will probably be selling tickets at the gate.

On my state pension, I couldn't afford to pay the price.

Fred you have to remember that George is a slippery Tory so whist it may appear he is offering something in reality he probably is not.

The hole is for a couple of turnips, when can you both get here ?

The warnings that were repeatedly flagged up but ignored about the flats that caught fire today https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-
fire/

KCTMO – Playing with fire!


Posted on November 20, 2016 by grenfellactiongroup
fire

It is a truly terrifying thought but the Grenfell Action Group firmly believe that only a catastrophic event will expose the ineptitude and incompetence of our landlord, the KCTMO, and bring an end to the dangerous living conditions and neglect of health and safety legislation that they inflict upon their tenants and leaseholders. We believe that the KCTMO are an evil, unprincipled, mini-mafia who have no business to be charged with the responsibility of looking after the every day management of large scale social housing estates and that their sordid collusion with the RBKC Council is a recipe for a future major disaster.

Unfortunately, the Grenfell Action Group have reached the conclusion that only an incident that results in serious loss of life of KCTMO residents will allow the external scrutiny to occur that will shine a light on the practices that characterise the malign governance of this non-functioning organisation. We believe that the KCTMO have ensured their ongoing survival by the use of proxy votes at their Annual General Meeting that see them returned with a mandate of 98% in favour of the continuation of their inept and highly dangerous management of our homes. It is no coincidence that the 98% is the same figure that is returned by the infamous Kim Jong-un of North Korea who claims mass popularity while reputedly enslaving the general population and starving the majority of his people to death.

It is our conviction that a serious fire in a tower block or similar high density residential property is the most likely reason that those who wield power at the KCTMO will be found out and brought to justice! The Grenfell Action Group believe that the KCTMO narrowly averted a major fire disaster at Grenfell Tower in 2013 when residents experienced a period of terrifying power surges that were subsequently found to have been caused by faulty wiring. We believe that our attempts to highlight the seriousness of this event were covered up by the KCTMO with the help of the RBKC Scrutiny Committee who refused to investigate the legitimate concerns of tenants and leaseholders.

We have blogged many times on the subject of fire safety at Grenfell Tower and we believe that these investigations will become part of damning evidence of the poor safety record of the KCTMO should a fire affect any other of their properties and cause the loss of life that we are predicting:

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2013/01/28/fire-safety-scandal-at-lancaster-west/

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/more-on-fire-safety/

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/another-fire-safety-scandal/

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/01/24/grenfell-tower-still-a-fire-risk/

In October 2015 a fire ripped through another KCTMO property, the 14 storey Adair Tower in North Kensington, causing mass panic and resulting in a number of residents taken to hospital suffering from smoke inhalation. It is reported that had it not been for the swift actions of the London Fire Brigade the consequences of this fire and potential loss of life could have been much worse.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11967592/50-rescued-from-burning-flats-in-Kensington.html

In the aftermath of the Adair Tower fire the London Fire Brigade found that the KCTMO had not been looking after the safety of residents properly and issued an Enforcement Order compelling them to improve the fire safety in the escape staircases and to provide self closing devices to all the tower block’s front doors. A further audit by the London Fire Brigade of the neighbouring Hazelwood Tower (located alongside Adair Tower) found similar breaches of health and safety legislation and an Enforcement Order was also issued for this property forcing the TMO to address the serious concerns of the Fire Brigade’s inspectors. What is shocking is that a decade ago a fatality occurred due to a fire at Hazelwood Tower and the Fire Investigation Team ordered that the grills on the fire escape staircase be covered over. This never happened and it is believed that the uncovered grills at Adair House (Hazelwood Tower’s twin block) acted like a chimney and were responsible for the accelerated spread of the fire and smoke damage.

In the last twenty years and despite the terrifying power surge incident in 2013 and recent fire at Adair Tower, the residents of Grenfell Tower have received no proper fire safety instructions from the KCTMO. Residents were informed by a temporary notice stuck in the lift and one announcement in a recent regeneration newsletter that they should remain in their flats in the event of fire. There are not and never have been any instructions posted in the Grenfell Tower noticeboard or on individual floor as to how residents should act in event of a fire. Anyone who witnessed the recent tower block fire at Shepherds Court, in nearby Shepherd’s Bush, will know that the advice to remain in our properties would have led to certain fatalities and we are calling on our landlord to re-consider the advice that they have so badly circulated.

The Grenfell Action Group predict that it won’t be long before the words of this blog come back to haunt the KCTMO management and we will do everything in our power to ensure that those in authority know how long and how appallingly our landlord has ignored their responsibility to ensure the heath and safety of their tenants and leaseholders. They can’t say that they haven’t been warned!

Stan, that is truly dreadful and after the fire today with the loss of life of those poor people, heads will have to roll. The inferno that engulfed the Grenfell building was horrific to watch, let alone be caught up in it.

Pre-cooked, whole, chlorinated, hormone fed, caged chicken in a can direct from the USA could be coming to a store near you thanks to Liam Fox.

Ashcroft what a mover http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-41880024/paradise-papers-lord-ashcroft-hides-from-trust-question

The words used today are "Self indulgence" and that's just by some Tory MP's about other Tories MP's...They just go from bad to worst!

Stan at his illiterate best. He should join up with Abbott. She can write his letters while he does her sums.

Now onto the Tories favourite subject at the moment ... Europe what else well some of them seem to have been up to no good:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/13/daniel-hannan-mep-group-told-to-repay-half-a-million-in-eu-funds

Daniel Hannan's MEP group told to repay €535,000 in EU funds
Exclusive: Alliance of Conservatives and Reformists in Europe accused of hosting luxury events of little relevance to EU

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Daniel Hannan, MEP for South East England, has accused European parliamentary investigators of making false insinuations. Photograph: Alamy
A European conservative group co-founded by the Tories and led by Brexit campaigner and MEP Daniel Hannan has been asked to repay more than half a million euros of EU funds following an investigation into their spending, the Guardian has learned.

In a rare negative finding touching a British political party in government, European parliament senior leaders on Monday night ordered the Alliance of Conservatives and Reformists in Europe (Acre) to repay €535,609 (£484,360) of EU funds."

That reminds me----has Tom Watson repaid his £500,000 yet.

Don't change the subject.

Typical hypocrite remark from Stan.

The Conservative Party is heading towards a "prolonged period" in opposition unless it adapts to modern Britain, George Osborne has said.
The former chancellor, who was sacked by Theresa May in 2016, said the party needed to become more socially-liberal (as if) and pro-employer to survive in power.
The ex-frontbencher, who now edits that Rag the Evening Standard, campaigned for Remain in the EU referendum.
He added he believes a general election could be likely in 2019.
Ms Osborne was interviewed by David Dimbleby, who is guest-editing BBC Radio 4's Today programme on Saturday.
He was former prime minister's David Cameron's closest ally in government and served as his chancellor for the whole disastrous six years Mr Cameron was prime minister - from 2010 to 2016.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46655969