President Obama says its great news for peace and democracy.

Good. Should put his head on a stick and have a parade in New York.

Yeah , congrats to the guy who shot him and good riddance to Bin Bag.

Hopefully Gadaffi will be next and Assad.
That would make a nice treble.

chopping off one of medusa's heads, albeit the main one, can be nothing but good .... however, there are still another 99 to pose significant danger to us all

Can't keep up with all these deaths........cynic let me know if you pass on....leave me in your will..."IOU one decent meal".,.

Who gets the reward.

How 'The Mob' might have done it.....

One down, a thousand more to go.

That's an old picture from several years ago when he was wrongly declared dead by Bush.

http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/?itemid=1927

Doubt that.

That will teach him!

There are very strong thoughts being voiced, that the Americans would have really wanted to take him alive.

Think about it....

....and other thoughts, that one of his own side 'took him out'.

No surely not, Yanks lie, never! He He Heeee :O)

it matters not as he's mutton anyway ..... arguments for and against whether it would have been better were he taken alive or not

A person who is alive when captured can obviously give more information to his captors than when he is dead.

And Usama Bin Laden certainly has had an awful lot of information to give.

true, but he would equally have become the focus and martyr of the extremists with months going by before any trial .... now he is very dead and buried at sea, there is no grave to become a place of pilgrimage

Any body interested in his martyrdom will build an effigy to him!

One in the eye for him poetic justice really.

Laden will be very aware of his coming death, whether sooner or later. My thought's are that he will have prepared others to follow where he left off.,.

Better get my short stocks ready.

I hope he is isn't dead

Ok, let me be the first to ask WHY ?

If I was Panetta I'd capture him alive (if at all possible), hide him away somewhere safe for interrogation and produce a cover story that we'd buried him at sea so there wouldn't be any physical remains as evidence of a substitute corpse.

Osama Bin Laden has just broadcast a public message on Al Jazira TV to prove he is still alive .... he says "Westham were cr*p on Sunday". However, US intelligence sources have dismissed it saying he could have recorded it anytime in the last 5 years.

has a muslim is soul will be very unhappy with the scavenger fish eating is body

not sure you're right as the amis were very particular to say (ensure) that his body was disposed of in line with muslim traditions

Was cutting off his penis, and sticking it up his ass before being thrown into the sea a muslim custom.

i believe mafia custom is to stuff it in your mouth

LOL Mr.C. maybe Jewish Mafia

If it really is him, the US has polluted the ocean worse than BP

i'm afraid Mickey Cohen is long dead otherwise we could have asked him - with greatest of respect of course!

If you upset the gay Mafia they send someone round to criticize your curtains

His wife shot in the leg and not terminal.

he now would no there is no god

I am glad that summary justice is being applauded in the USA, Britain and Syria.

Perhaps we need another referendum to legalise it in this country.

Its not being applauded Fred its being cheered from the rooftops all over the western world and that fact that he was unarmed doesn't worry me one iota.

Good riddance to him.

Dil,

I think it is a good example for others.

However, I would watch that neighbour of yours, he has just bought a new twelve bore.

Also, the Syrians only arrested and torture "terrorists" who disagree with them.

(I need some of their power.)

Instead of shooting him, freddie would have been given him an ASBO

Or a council house in Peckham

They should have flown Bin Laden to the uk and torture him by forcing him to read all of Fred's post's .

"forcing him to read all of Fred's post's "

"Cruel and unusual punishment" is against the US constitution.

They don't have eight bedroom houses in Peckham for all his wives and kids so they'd have given him a pad in Kensington and Chelsea plus all the benefits/

Difference is Fred I've not blown up thousands of my neighbours mates and been hiding from him for ten years so he has no argument with me.

7 bedroom terraced house for sale in Peckham, London SE15
Like this property?


1,050,000

Dil,

In that Bush and Blair are responsible for the deaths of over 100,000
Iraqis by "collateral" damage, and many think they are responsible for war crimes you would not be offended by the injudicial "killing" or "murder" of them even?

Even if they were unarmed?

I am not sad that he is dead, but I think after all the crowing is over, that, probably, more harm has been done by the way in which it has be achieved.

WH says he is 100% dead.

Must be 100% dead now even the sharks have vomited up his remains.

Fred , know where your coming from but I believe right or wrong that however he was killed and whatever the circumstances the world is now a better place without him.

But no safer. Thanks to Labour with their secret open door immigration policy the enemy's of our Western way of life are now living amongst us.

He will not walk on this earth again.

But those walking behind him will

reality check needed here

fred - on the very reasonably assumption that BL is dead, do you think that his bodyguards would have allowed him to be taken alive? ...... do you think BL would have meekly held up his hands in surrender when politely requested to do so? ..... do you think that even in a drugged state (say) that BL could have been whisked away? ..... do you think that that would actually have been a "better" solution and that his follwers would merely have muttered, "oh dear! guess the game's up now"?

of course the removal of BL will not destroy al qaeda, and indeed for a while, the world may be a somewhat more dangerous place for obvious reasons ..... however, there can be no denying (except perhaps by fred) that the removal of BM and especially the capture of huge amounts of information of all kinds will weaken al qaeda substantially

what "we" do about that vipers-nest of pakistan is another matter - not play them cricket would be a good start!

My first visit to this thread.

As I have had Fred Squelched for any months, I have no idea nor no interest in what he says on any subject, but even before clicking onto the site, I would have bet that Fred would be one to cry over the death of Bin Laden.

This world would be a far better place if it got rid of many more such people as Bin Laden.

Just put them at the end of a gun sight and I would happily squeeze the trigger.

I can obviously tell by the many replies to Fred, just how his posts must read.
Bleeding hearts are as big a danger to this country as those they cry over.

Why the hell do posters reply to his 'intended winding up'.
Perhaps they feel sorry for this truly sad man!

The ArchBishop of Canterbury Rowan Arkinson condemns the killing of a man who refused to surrender.

he almost has an obligation to say that as leader of the anglican church

I suppose that the Archbishop would have welcomed him with open arms, kissed him on both cheeks and gave him absolution (is that what Archbishops do).
No doubt he would not have considered the chance of BL detonating an explosive device. Many such devices can be detonated remotely by the simple act of closing or opening a hand.
Another 'Bleeding Heart' from someone who has never been in a position of life and death where decisions have to be made in a split second.

greekman talks a lot of sense
if freddiefewbrains would have been around in the 1930s he would have been an appeaser to that nice poor misunderstood herr hitler
hay parrot would have been marching to the sound of The Tin Drum singing hitler's praises

Who really cares what the ArchBishop of Canterbury has to say on any subject. He is just the leader of one of groups of believers in fairies and extra-terrestial beings. He is about as relevant as adults that believe in Father Christmas. It is about time we had a secular society and stopped giving any weight or importance to utterances from delusionals.

OMG parrot !
You've posted something I totally agree with !
And it's not a copy and paste job !

He should stick to blowing choir boys.

Haystack,

Never thought one of your posts would ever offend me but, No father Christmas!
Who brings my presents then.
You will be telling me next that the Tooth fairy and Easter Bunny don't exist.

On a serious note, all Christian leaders can promise is that true believers go to heaven, play harps and sit about on clouds all day looking down on beautiful gardens.

Islam on the other hand promises true believers paradise where 72 beautiful virgins eagerly await your arrival.

Now let me think, who has the best sales pitch?

Now lets see, harps, clouds and flowers v 72 virgins.

No wonder Christianity is loosing to Islam.

Now where did I put my prayer mat!

There is nothing in the Koran offering 72 virgins let alone beautiful ones. There are sayings supposedly attributed to Muhammad suggesting that heaven would offer each person 80,000 servants and 72 wives. I can't imagine anything worse than 72 wives.

true islam and the koran does not say many things that are foisted as "truths" by (not necessarily) fundamentalists especially on their womenfolk - e.g. being obliged to go in public in full burqa or not being allowed to drive or not being academically educated

Well interesting to see an ex-policeman who appeared to advocate torture, is now advocating murder.

I do hope he volunteers to rejoin the police force as a special constable to bolster up Cameron failing society.

They will need trigger happy individuals with experience to keep or streets safe.

Reminds me of the Birmingham six, who the lynch mob with members holding similar views to many of those on this thread, wanted to hang without trial.

So much for respect of international law, but do not be surprised when others disregard the law and seek to justify their actions.

But remember what you previously advocated.

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As far as Rowan Williams is concerned, although I am atheist, I don't think Haystacks, cynic or aids are fit to lick his boots, morally or intellectually.

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thank you for your kind and generous thoughts .... i'm deeply hurt actually, having a strong boot fetish, though arses sometimes provide an enjoyable alternative

am i mistaken, but have you actually said how YOU would have handled the situation had YOU been a soldier in the action? ...... had YOU been obama, would YOU have given strong and unequivocal instruction that BL not be harmed unless absolutely unavoidable? ...... i'ld bet not, as while you're great on the criticisms, you're not too hot in standing up and giving your own solutions

I think I will leave you to your own arse licking. It would seem more than appropriate for you.

methinks a raw nerve has been exposed - and jiggled with a cattle prod perhaps

Has if anybody on this thread or any other thread that you have started just so that your pathetic warped mind can get pleasure from winding posters up , care what you think.

Need I say this post was a reply to Fred's post not Cynic's

thanks aldo, for on initial reading i thought the barb was aimed at me!

"cynic [Send an email to cynic] [View cynic's profile] - 05 May 2011 7:57 - 69 of 73

"thank you for your kind and generous thoughts .... i'm deeply hurt actually, having a strong boot fetish, though arses sometimes provide an enjoyable alternative"



I thought it was your self confession!

Fred is entitled to his views just as much as anyone else on hereis so attack the post not the poster if you don't like them , (must remember that myself).

And in the past Fred has often made many valid points and on occassions I have been on his side against the majority on here in what he says.

Keep posting Fred but please state what you would have done in possession of the same information as Obama was. In fairness its easy to criticise other peoples opinions when not giving your own so what would you have done ?

Nothing to do with the obnoxious KNOBHEAD being a fellow Welshman then Dil? :O)

I'm glad you phrased it that way instead of "obnoxious Welshman being a fellow KNOBHEAD" :-)


No nothing at all Chris , he has often made me think about things that I believe in but to date as far as I can remember he's never made me change those beliefs.

Aye Ditto Dil. Nobody could accuse Fred of being a 'people pleaser'. He just seems to have made a career of winding people up, water of a ducks back once sussed :O)

We should all be on our guards for people acting suspiciously...packages left around the underground, airports and such...because those bastards will want to kill more innocent people because of that nutcase's death.

Haven't posted on this thread before but have read all the varying points of view if only to stay sane while minding the grandchildren-note plural and all at same time - I am a bit uncomfortable with BL's shooting but I appreciate that I wasn't there therefore am not aware of all the facts and probably never will be, that it must have been an extremely nerve wracking situation for the navy seals and that I don't know what I would have done in the same situation. I also appreciate the problems in bringing BL to trial which could have dragged on until he died of natural causes and the Americans would probably have been blamed for that to. So what's done is done it's not totally right but it's not totally wrong thank somebody the decision wasn't mine and hopefully millions won't be spent setting up pointless inquiries. What I'm trying to say is although I'm uncomfortable I'm not prepared to judge. Sorry a bit long winded

The trouble with people like Bin Laden is that the best thing is to drag them out into the street and put a bullet in them,...it is the only way of dealing with those kind of people.....

Maggie, No self respecting person is ever easy with an unarmed person being shot. On the other hand no sane person would plan mass killing of innocents all over the world. The old saying " Live by the sword die by the sword" is most appropiate.While we plan hugh aid programs to help the less fortunate in our world, there those among use who even as I type this are plotting to harm us all. There is no easy solution. We are fortunate to have the kind of people who can pick up a 60 sec phone call and follow it to a conclusion. Anybody who watched the horror unfold as thousands died in the twin towers can only say some measure of justice has been done, but there is more to be done.

Well said Rf.

Beebusy, I have to disagree with you re 'No self respecting person is ever easy with an unarmed person being shot'.
I hope I am a self respecting person, but without going into detail, I have been in more than one position were another life was in my hands and I therefor I am able to say what I would have done in the Bin Laden incident.
I also worked with members of the SAS and SBS for several years (no I was not a member and would not pretend to be, never near brave enough) and although they did not openly talk about incidents (I worked with them for almost 1 year before I even found out they were special forces) I did learn something of what they did purely by default.
What I will say is a repeat of a previous post, as far as a terrorist is concerned if they are not completely naked and even then, you can't be absolutely sure they do not have a 'trigger' to a weapon that can be remotely detonated, they should be killed.
But I do see how it looks to those who do not know, so in no way having a go at you.
As to myself, even if he had been totally naked, unconscious and tried to a chair, the best decision would still have been to kill him.
Just imagine all the hassle if he had been taken alive. Imagine all the hostage taking that would follow to try to get his release and all the PR he could push out in a trial.
Taken live many more would die.
Because it's a very sick world, unfortunately sometimes morality has to take a back step to what makes sense.
Turning the other cheek (I am not referring to anything you said) often means getting another kick in the other ball!

If I was in charge of a list to put down others like BL it would be quite a long list.
To keep this world from total chaos, right or wrong, sometimes people 'Have to play God'!

Can't disagree with anything you've said Greek or you BB but it would have been nice and tidy if he'd had a gun or even a 'trigger' shows how safe he felt!

Yep cannot disagree, if I had entered that compound I would have shot him. Our trouble is we have a conscience they do not. It takes a certain amount of cowardice to tie a person up then cut his throat and film it for the masses. To plant roadside bombs that could destroy anything passing by.Snipers shooting children, wounded people lying in the road, even the water buttes. This is not fighting for freedom or an ideal this is sadistic, depraved humans at their worse.Dont think this is all removed from us, just glance across the water at Ireland.We allow a man who slaughtered hundreds to return to Libya saying there there you are sick go home!! when we should have made him pay the penalty for his actions. We have brought this on our selves.As a society we cannot even punish our children for wrong doing, we cannot defend that which is dear to us,we cannot speak freely about our concerns without being arrested as some kind of "ist" We cannot allow sharpening a pencil with a penknife!! risk assesment,offensive weapon, litigation?? I have no answers but as a nation we have questions and we must voice them.

The operation was clearly a 'kill operation'. It was what any group like the SAS would do. I saw Paddy Ashdown appearing to bad mouth the killing of Bin Laden on Question Time last night. He was the commander of a Special Boat Services unit and later in charge of a Commando Company in Belfast. He ought to know what happens.

Where was the fuss when terrorists took over the Iranian embassy and took hostages? The SAS went in and killed 5 of the 6 terrorists.

After the SAS assault ended, the last surviving gunman, Fowzi Nejad, posed as a hostage and was escorted outside the embassy with the others. There, a real hostage quickly identified him as one of the attackers. An SAS soldier began to take him back inside the building, allegedly to be shot. He was prevented from doing so when it was pointed out to him that the world's media was watching.

There was controversy over the deaths of some of the terrorists, especially of Shai and Makki. They were guarding the Iranian hostages, and towards the end of the raid the hostages persuaded the men to surrender. Hostages witnessed them throw down their weapons and sit on the floor with their hands on their heads when the SAS troops entered the room. Weapons being thrown out of a window and a white flag were seen by video cameras outside.

Ahmad Dadgar, a hostage at the time (confirmed by two other hostages) said (of the SAS):

"They then took the two terrorists, pushed them against the wall and shot them. They wanted to finish their story. That was their job." [They might have] "had something in their pockets, but they certainly had no weapons in their hands at the time."

At a coroner's inquest the SAS were cleared of unlawful conduct by a jury. One of the soldiers said that he thought Makki was going for a gun, and another said he thought Shai had a hand grenade and shot him in the back of the neck.

If you wanted to live outside of the UK , which place would you choose ? I know it would depend on individual circumstances.


All this talk as made me think about it.

The USA

Bin Laden should have been arrested and tried. given an ASBO, politely requested to turn up in court, asked to undergo a rehabilitation course and introduced to the families of his victims so he could understand the error of his ways and then given a new identity, that home in Kensington and Chelsea and a community service order involving working with young people in a mosque.
In other words, British justice.

Al-Qaeda has confirmed the death of its leader Osama Bin Laden in a statement posted on jihadist internet forums.

Hays,

You seem to me to be condoning the actions of the Israeli special forces methods of treating the Palestinians.

But condemning the Israelis for not conforming to international law and standards of engagement.

Or do you have one blind eye when you think it useful?

Shooting the raghead in the eye works for me.

PS.

Dil,

From recent reports there was not a massacre or obvious resistance.

There are stun guns etc. which could have rendered BL unconscious and carried out.

They carried the body and/or perhaps even other bodies.

Another suspicion is that in unlawful killing or killings an independent forensic post-mortem is held when possible.

The resistance to the incursion seems to have been minimal.

The same rights which the Americans and British wish for themselves should be shown to all members of the human race.


The opinions expressed by some posters on this board remind me of remarks I have be made by members of of "racial groups".


I repeat I am not sad BL is dead, but see no virtue in the way it was effected.

Perhaps, some believe in James Bond or have played too many unrealistic computerised war games.

"Shooting the raghead in the eye works for me."

The suggestion now is that he was shot in the back of the head and that is why there is a large part of his front skull and brain missing; small entry wound and big exit wound due the types of bullets that special forces use. He was shot in the chest and the shot in the back of the head may have been a 'coup de grace' shot after he fell.

..Al Qaeda has confirmed the death of Osama bin Laden and vowed to launch revenge attacks on the US and its allies.

A statement posted on jihadist websites warned that happiness over the terror chief's demise would soon be turned on its head.

The group described itself as a "curse" on America, promised bloodshed and also called on Pakistan to rise up in revolt.

An audiotape purporting to be of bin Laden speaking a week before his death is set to be released shortly.

The authenticity of the statement is not possible to confirm independently but it was posted on sites known to be used by the group.


It said: "We stress that the blood of the holy warrior sheik, Osama bin Laden, God bless him, is precious to us and to all Muslims and will not go in vain.

"We will remain, God willing, a curse chasing the Americans and their agents, following them outside and inside their countries.

"Soon, God willing, their happiness will turn to sadness. Their blood will be mingled with their tears.

"We call upon our Muslim people in Pakistan... to rise up and revolt to cleanse this shame that has been attached to them by a clique of traitors and thieves ... and in general to cleanse their country from the filth of the Americans who spread corruption in it."

The announcement paves the way for al Qaeda to name a successor to bin Laden, with his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri the most likely candidate.

The confirmation followed claims by US officials that it had been planning an attack on the U.S. rail network to mark the 10th anniversary of 9/11.

The plot was apparently uncovered as US agencies went through information seized from bin Laden's compound after he was killed in a raid by Navy Seals.


"We have no information of any imminent terrorist threat to the US rail sector, but wanted to make our partners aware of the alleged plotting," Department of Homeland Security spokesman Matthew Chandler said.

The idea - outlined in handwritten notes from the compound - was to tamper with a the track so that a train would fall into a valley or from a bridge, according to a joint FBI and Homeland Security bulletin.

However, there was no indication from the intelligence whether further plans were drawn up for the scheme or if steps were taken to carry it out.

Fox News cited a source as saying the plan was more aspirational than concrete and mentioned services in New York, Washington DC and Chicago.

The source said the evidence taken during the raid in Abbottabad, Pakistan, on Monday considered the possibility of targeting a train travelling at 500mph - a speed that no locomotive in the US is capable of reaching.


Details of the alleged plot emerged as Pakistan's army broke its silence over the raid, acknowledging its own "shortcomings" in efforts to find bin Laden.

However, military chiefs threatened to review co-operation with the US if there was another similar violation of Pakistani sovereignty.

The army statement was in sharp contrast to the initial response to the raid by Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani, who had hailed the operation as a "great victory".

In another revelation likely to further strain ties between Islamabad and Washington, CIA agents reportedly watched bin Laden from a safehouse in Abbottabad after his compound was discovered last August.

US officials said intelligence-gathering was so exhaustive that the CIA asked Congress to reallocate tens of millions of dollars to fund it.

"The CIA's job was to find and fix," the Washington Post quoted one US official as saying, using special forces terminology for locating a target.

"The intelligence work was as complete as it was going to be, and it was the military's turn to finish the target."


A Pakistani intelligence official has said that one of bin Laden's wives claims she had been living in the compound for six years.

The Yemeni-born woman - one of bin Laden's three wives currently being interrogated in Pakistan - did not say whether the al Qaeda leader had also been living there since 2006.

UN human rights investigators have called on the US to disclose the full facts surrounding bin Laden's death, in particular whether there had been any plan to capture him.

They said in certain exceptional cases deadly force may be used in "operations against terrorists" but "the norm should be that terrorists be dealt with as criminals, through legal processes of arrest, trial and judicially-decided punishment".


Bin Laden was unarmed when shot in the head by US commandos.

The White House's shifting story of the attack has raised doubts about US assurances that special operations forces were prepared to take him alive.

An opinion poll of more than 5,000 people surveyed in Pakistan shows that 66% of respondents do not believe that the person killed by US Special Forces was bin Laden.

The YouGov poll adds that three-quarters disapprove of the US operation and over half think it will result in "further violence against the US".

In New York on Thursday, US President Barack Obama visited Ground Zero to honour those killed in the attacks on the Twin Towers.

Today, Mr Obama will travel to the Fort Campbell US army base in Kentucky to meet members of the Navy Seal team that were involved in the operation.
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Isn't the parrot a candidate for Bin Laden's job with freddiefewbrains as his spin doctor ?

Britain will be targeted for a bombing during the 2012 Olympic Games imho.

Fred, your comment 'There are stun guns etc. which could have rendered BL unconscious and carried out.' i now just plain silly.

The last thing I want to be worrying about when flying into such a dangerous and unknown situation would be 'Did I put my stun gun on charge last night?' I would simply want to get in, do the job and get out alive with minimal risk to the team.

Yeh and give them their own passport

apart from the actual logistics of getting BL out of pakistan in one piece, there would then be huge problems in all sports of ways (just think about it) in keeping him alive and safe and putting him on trial and so on all the way down the line

morally, it was probably wrong to shoot him, but i'm sure it was actually much the best and least risky solution for the rest of the world ..... the end assuredly justified the means

raw,

I added an etc.

Have a look at the information at their disposal. methods and other weaponry which have been employed.

Also, an important factor in this incursion was it was into another Sovereignty.

The repercussion may be less than helpful to the outcome in Afghanistan and other areas of the world.

Also, Gaddafi has kill thousands of Libyans, other "charmers" have kill thousands and yet allowed to live,

Is a question of who is filling our back pockets.

It stinks of double standards.

The sanctimonious hypocrisy which is being portrayed is offensive.

How can it be morally wrong to kill him ?

Why. even in the Bible "God" kills people for small little indiscretions.

He killed some for mocking a bald man - that is in the Bible.

I think God kills well over 250 people as documented in the Old Testament.

Only these silly new age "liberals" who have a problem with killing scum.

A stun gun causes clenching and/or rigidity of the limbs.

Trigger in hand, hand clenches, boom!

What sports did he play

Pros.

That is what BL was preaching.

Greek,

How many times have you been stunned?

PS.

Or stoned!

fred - i'm afraid this is another occasion when you have got carried away on your own torrent of tosh, and no, i'm not going to waste my time shredding your joke logic and comment piece by piece ..... the guys and gals on this board have enough brain cells to see what nonsense you spout without any help from me

adding an etc doesn't mean anything.

Carrying anything other than lethal weaponry into such a situation would be plainly stupid and likely to lead to possible indecision and the death of one or more of the special forces.

I know what I would take given the choice and it would be at the most two guns with ammo and a knife. I wouldn't even bother with cable ties to handcuff him.

So to sum up the weeks posts on this thread most of us agree that the derf of Bin Laden was deserved and has made the world a better place.

Mind you he obviously has at least one fan.

Note.........the anagram of derf!

Will be out of internet reach till the 15th as walking the Cleveland Way for charity.

Thought about being trendy this year and collecting money for the One legged, lesbian, gay gypsy benevolent fund, but after some though, decided to donate to my usual charity, the local hospice.

i thought the cleveland way was hurling coins at opposition goalkeepers

hope the weather holds for you, especially along the coastal stretch ... at least you should get some great lobsters en route, and if memory serves me correctly, some of the best fish n chips in uk at the magpie cafe in whitby

hope you raise loads of dosh for your local hospice too

Greek,

Why not keep on walking?

Fred you are trying to widen the argument but sticking to the death of BL , imo , however he got his comeuppance is ok with me.

Go watch all the videos he's made over the last ten years and then tell me he deserved a trial , he signed his own death warrant.

As for Special Forces carrying stun guns instead of real weapons your having a laff.

I see hay parrot's Hamas boss Haniyah has condemned the "murder" of the "Muslim Holy Warrior Sheikh Bin Laden."

He may not have deserved a trial, but, if possible, the "world" did.

The special forces are generally big "boys" and could carry a few extra tools, after all they carried BL's body.

Never met the Americans "boys", but have known a few British "lads".

Carrying out "orders" is never a successful plea in a court of law.

I wonder how long Dil will take before he catches on that replying to Fred's posts is a pointless waste of time , the only time i reply is to show him up as the pathetic little man he is, who else would create threads simply to wind people up.

Have none of the conspiracy nutters who believe that the US lies constantly, given a thought to the fact that it was the US who decribed Bin as " unarmed", could they be lying, ah now theres a conundrum?

If, as is possible he died armed to the teeth and tried to fight it out he would be morer of a hero to the nutters?

Seq,

Amusing argument.

But I think the media releases just shows how confused the Americans command structure really is.

Perhaps, their PR is organised by aids.

aldwickk , not got a problem with Fred having his own point of view and as for wind up merchants .... errrrr I think I was one of the founder members.

Fred , western world are happy , most of the rest don't care so to appease a few murdering followers of Bin Bag I think shooting him was fine ... I and most of the world can live with it imo.

I too know some "armed forces" Fred and they take what they need and that dont include toys.

As for court .... again , yer having a laff.

Regards

Southern puffters 1 The greatest team in the world 2 Arise Lord Alex. Roman should know money does not buy class.

Dil,

I knew one who took a teddy bear to bed!

lol

I wonder if bin laden had life insurance.

I wonder if the American action in Pakistan was attempting to divert attention from policy failures in Libya, Syria and Iraq?

Was it done for American internal politics, as it hasn't help them on the international stage?

I can't see that transgressions in Pakistan has help their escape from Afghanistan?

"Haven't heard much from Cameron or his crewmen!"

When does a rebel become a terrorist and when does legitimate bombing with "acceptable collateral damage", i.e. civilians as in Iraq become "terrorist", or "war crimes".

Confusion reigns or should it be "rains".

are fred's criticisms and semi-canards justified or with any merit or worth pursuing further?
no
are they best ignored
yes
will fred disappear in a puff of smoke?
seemingly not

Cynic,

Thank you for your considered reply to all points.

Strangely, once again it doesn't seem to reflect the responses and opinions of the Middle East and Far East countries.

United Nations are questioning the legalities of the BL killing.

Also, many are considering their future relationship with a waning power.

Are you marching to your own tune once again, or just out of tune.


Must pack my flak jacket.

they should never have buried him at sea disgraceful. they should of fed him to the crocs

fred - you asked what i thought or would do (about Libya!!), not to parrot the views of others or their alleged opinions

Maybe it would seemed a good place at the time.

Personally, I think it will be seen as a stupid insult to many, including his opponents.

The Americans can be cack-handed and sometimes show less foresight than foreskin.

Mr.C. does not have foreskin.

bernard - a x-wire i think

The posts F makes I doubt he has a penis let alone foreskin.

If a team had gone in and killed Hitler the mindless lefties would have moaned about the injustice and he should have been arrested and brought to trial.
THIS IS WAR
Get it?

Don't know about a lack of penis, but there are some here who lack balls.

Bernard

He has got one its on his head , Stan has to use a step ladder.

Cynic

A x-wire ? that's a painful way to do it.

Giving him head takes on a whole new meaning

Is that where "dickhead" comes from?

Is that why he talks like a cnut

True story. There is a royal marine officer called Richard Head who punched a stand up comic who kept taking the piss out of his name in a show for the troops.

Osama Bin Laden shot in his underpants.

Not a pretty sight I bet.

Killed ... Osama Bin LadenKill Obama gran plot
By SIMON HUGHES

TERRORISTS have threatened to murder US President Barack Obama's step-gran in revenge for the shooting of Osama Bin Laden.


Security has been stepped up at the Kenyan village home of Sarah Obama, 88, after the warning was issued by feared Somalian group al-Shabaab.




Close ... Barack Obama and gran Sarah
Armed guards were assigned to Kogelo immediately after Bin Laden died. But a senior cop said: "We now have enough officers to patrol the entire village."

The President is close to Sarah - his grandad's third wife - which is why she has been targeted, even though she is a Muslim.

Bin Laden shot in just his pants By PETE SAMSON, US Editor and NICK PARKER, Chief Foreign Correspondent

Published: Today
Add a comment (5) OSAMA Bin Laden was shot dead wearing just his underpants, a US senator revealed yesterday.
James Inhofe spoke after seeing top-secret photos from the scene of the terror leader's shooting by US Navy Seals in Pakistan on May 2.

He said: "Two of them showed that he had what you would call underwear on, that was about it.

"The pictures are gruesome, of course, because they were taken right after the incident.



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