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Energy certificates !.....is that crap or what ?.....I've seen some nonsense in my life but that is near the top......you are going to rent or buy your nice little pad for youself and hey !....gee...the first thing that enters your mind let's see that crap......it's B.....s.......have you seen the laser they use.....talk about a waste of money and time and everything.....another european or Brussels improvement....

All part of the Reagan/Thatcher's service culture RF.. by the way who did you vote for in the previous decades?

Not for Brown, thats for sure. But there again, did anybody?

Conservative....and I don't always agree with them....too pompous at times....or toffy nosed for my liking at times....

So RF lets get this straight, you vote Tory then take time to complain "at some length" that you don't like one of their "fundamental" policies.. would have thought that Pompous or toffy nosed was the least of your worries when it comes to voting?

It's the airs and graces that at times amongst some of those people that gets me....but anyway : after Brown and the previous labour lot : they are like a breath of fresh air....

N,

I like Europe.


Parts of the UK are alright as well, but I want to whinge against ?

Understand your feelings about Brown and the Blue Labour lot, but why go back to the original Tory party? why not try another option?

UKIP

Welsh nationalists are good.

Rhodri Morgan would probably come out of retirement for a small fee.


The UK would benefit from Alex Salmond.

What is this word "alright", Fred. Is this an example of what we can expect of sloppy EuroEnglish speak?

I think the UK would also benefit from Clive, Salmond.......(finance cartoon)...

Oh dear, now that they have all done with kicking the UK and thought about it more, looks like it is not such a done deal after all....

I'm sure it's nothing like a done deal. Batten down the hatches.

TOK.

Check Oxford Dick.

I hope that's not an indecent suggestion, Fred. Nothing between already and Alsatia.
And anyway, all the style books from my hacking days ban it.

TOK

1) pure typing error 8-)

"Alright" is in my edition of Talking Dict.

Also from Merriam Websters D.

": all right

See alright defined for English-language learners

See alright defined for kids

Usage Discussion of ALRIGHT

The one-word spelling alright appeared some 75 years after all right itself had reappeared from a 400-year-long absence. Since the early 20th century some critics have insisted alright is wrong, but it has its defenders and its users. It is less frequent than all right but remains in common use especially in journalistic and business publications. It is quite common in fictional dialogue, and is used occasionally in other writing ."

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As I "was" dyslexic, I often have difficulties with "double" letters and have to check. I checked "alright and all right".

But I am thankful for Dicts, but wish I could find and easy to use program for "syntax", but when I did a little programming found the syntax there usually easy.

My wife is very useful when I attempt to write anything of any "importance" and checks any missile I intend sending out, but she is "perfect" and puts my "faults" down to laziness.

I am surprised that you of all people, Fred, is putting up an American publication in support of your argument. But I must agree that wives are very useful. Give her a hug from me.

TOK.

I will give her a hug and tell her it is from you.

(God help me.)


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Interesting, about American publications. When I was a student (thousands of years ago), many of us liked to use American text books, as they seemed more logically laid out and the illustrations were better.

Also, the costs were sometimes less than the British equivalents.

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PS.

Nothing against the USA as a whole, but I think, some of the Administrations and its actions have been atrocious.


Also, I wish its "culture" was not as pervasive, although I think I understand some of the reasons for it being so.

Italy's borrowing costs jump at bond auction as EU attempts to forge a 'fiscal union' fails to convince markets it can solve the debt crisis, while 'opt out' Britain secures record low interest rates at gilt sale.
Speaks volumes.

Yes and those imbeciles in that ivory tower have the audacity to denigrate the UK for not kowtowing to their demands.. the sooner we leave that corupt cesspit the better...But thats only my own humble opinion......

" My wife is very useful when I attempt to write anything of any "importance"

She must be getting fed up waiting all this time , when are going to ?

My wife thinks everything I do is important.

Even my death will probably be celebrated.

See christmas in first Fred.

Rest assured Fred, we will.

It,

You encourage me to live long enough to disappoint you..

Have an appropriate XMAS.

I hear there is cheering about possibility that the 26 don't sign a new treaty.


Just a thought. is the UK better off with France, Germany and a few others
signing a new treaty more beneficial to their needs?

May find the latter more exclusive to trade agreements than the 26.

(Must look at the map again.)

No worries Fred I don't want you to die, rest assured however if that sad event were to occur, dead certainty (no pun intended) your 'Gobshite of the Year' award would be awarded posthomously. :O)

downgrade of France's AAA rating would not be justified and the ratings agencies are making decisions based more on politics than economics, said Christian Noyer, who is a European Central Bank policymaker as well as head of the Banque de France.

Standard and Poor's is due to decide whether or not to downgrade eurozone countries in the coming days following an EU agreement on Friday to forge tougher fiscal rules.

"The downgrade does not appear to me to be justified when considering economic fundamentals," Mr Noyer said in an interview with local newspaper Le Telegramme de Brest.

"Otherwise, they should start by downgrading Britain which has more deficits, as much debt, more inflation, less growth than us and where credit is slumping," he went on.

However, he forget something called the euro which is about to blow up in his face. Selective reasoning, I believe they call it.

Hmmmm righteo - Spain looks safer than Italy as borrowing costs fall

(Reuters) - Spain saw solid demand for its bonds on Thursday, paying more than 2 percentage points less to borrow over 5-years than Italy a day earlier as budget cuts helped ease concerns it could be among the next to fall in the euro zone's debt crisis.

Channel 4

"Its Twitterloo! The Banque de France is throwing away the book on monetary diplomacy, and openly lashing out at Britains economic record in remarkable terms today.

A few weeks ago I reported on the growing discontent withing Europes central banks at the unwanted advice to print money from the English Patient.

Today, the Banque de France, Frances central bank, went a step further, clearly translating into English and tweeting out pointed criticisms of the UK economy in the name of its governor.

@banquedefrance: Noyer: The UK has a bigger deficit, as much debt, more inflation, weaker growth, than France.

@banquedefrance: Noyer: Bank lending is collapsing in the UK

Of course the context here is the increasing likelihood that Papa Noel is about to deliver the unwanted Christmas present of a AA credit rating.

I cant find the speech, but the tweets seem to be a defence of Frances credit rating, particularly in relation to the worse economic fundamentals in Britain.

Indeed when I saw Noyer in October he suggested that the eurozone was being punished for its virtue in not engaging in a UK-style massive monetisation of our debts. Certainly Standard & Poors now openly includes the prospect of having a friendly central bank liquidising your debts as a ratings plus point.

So who started this low level economic jousting? As I pointed out last month, European monetary officials are fed up with lectures from Britain.

The not-so-subtle megaphone diplomacy wielded by the Chancellor, PM, and US Treasury Secretary, has, i

The French bank's are in more trouble then our's are , they have the worse credit rating. Anyway who care's what the French say , they can't be trusted.

Can you be?

Maybe not - but we won the war :-)

Fred - Stand to attention for the mayonaise! French pillocks!

Oh well as its Friday -

"There is nothing lower than the human race...except for the French." - Mark Twain

"French history: They turn on their friends and surrender to their enemies!"

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mnamreh - I did try - but I got bored after 1, maybe 2 seconds.....

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I wish some of you lot would stop having a go at french people.....do you know them ?, apart from the crap our media put out about them....to me it is very irritating to see diagreements that can be resolved over a period of time between governments turn into a slanging match .....those who doubt the courage french people showed during the second world war should go to the museums and shrines dedicated to the resistance......I don't think that some of the televised prats on so called comedy shows help that much except inflame anti-european ideas !.

RF - its a 2 way street. I personally have had many excellent holidays in France over the years and find the French (once outside Paris) very hospitable.

One thing that separates us from most nations, is our ability to laugh at ourselves.

Q. What does a French military alliance and a French romance have in common?
A. Both are brief, sordid, and completely meaningless.


And for French - substitute any nation you wish !

Of course we are different...cultures etc....but being just plain nasty is not on !....by both sides....at the moment europe as a whole is in deep trouble and it will take a lot of pulling together from all sides to get things back in shape.....skinny...get a life....love the little cartoon figures stan......I'm not good enough at the internet to be able to do that....

RF,

Post 46,

I agree with your sentiments.

Once outside the major European municipalities cities have always found the majority of the population much of a muchness with ourselves.

Also, been surprised by their hospitality and how often they have gone out their ways to be helpful.

If you were referring to "Allo Allo" program, when I first saw it, I winced, but later did find it very funny.

Some of the French who told me the has seen the series, said that they had also found it very funny.

Also, a simple "Hello" often broke the ice.

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Last year, my grandchildren and parents stayed with my wife and self on a campsite in the Dordogne for three weeks.
For me, it was very pleasant to see the children of various nationalities (German. French, Dutch, Belgian, etc.) all playing happily together and the parents also being mutually helpful.

But there was low level banter without animosity.

Also interesting, to note how well the parents and offspring spoke and understood English compared with my own stuttering French.

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To get out of the economic mess we are in within the next 12-18mths, we need Europe to do it. I am sceptical whether Europe needs us.

Trying to lay down rules and hoping to plunder Europe to satisfy UK "independence" rightly grates.
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Also I am fed up with paying exchange rates and charges on purchases from Europe and the same must apply to those in the Euro-zone dealing with the UK.
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Some in the UK are celebrating the fall in value of the Euro. Marvellous for me, and my next holiday, but the effect on our exports. Umhh.

A good post from RichGit on another mm



Merkel prefers to push Euroland into recession than lose Her position
of power.

She may yet even make Gordon Brown look intelligent,as the costs of Her
clinging to power will no doubt be remembered far longer than Gordie`s,in their immensity and consequence


How long can the other Pantomime member. watch the Carnage as the loss
of His AAA rating must be looming ever faster.

Seems we have the same panic selling of all assets for cash as in 2008
as some Market players face huge losses.,and sell their Gold positions.

Cycles & re-cycles

Fred1new....I thought the same about Allo-Allo, the first time round but...just like you got to love the series !.....for british exports : a cheap pound must be helping....bought a car in calais 12 years ago : 1.54 euros to the pound was the rate then...just shows.....

RF,

You must have been in Calais the same time as me.

I remember it well.

8-)

Alds,

With the present strength of the German economy Angela and the German people are for the moment well off inside or outside the Euro-zone.

The Euro going down benefits German export and economy for a while, but the benefit of devaluation is momentary.

Unlike, you I think Merkel thinks not only of her political position, her country, but also Europe as a unit.

This will be for the longterm good for Germany and Europe.

In this country, we see a political leader, who thinks of what is opportune to his own immediate needs and his "here to-day gone to-morrow friends" and city backers.

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Look at the recent economic figures, forecast and trends, if you think these support a little englander's isolationist plunder policy, I would suggest you review it.

I think, the long term future of the UK is accepting that it is within Europe and part of it.


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Back to bread making, of far more immediate importance. So my wife says.

Unlike, you I think Merkel thinks not only of her political position, her country, but also Europe as a unit.

Right- Europe under her control, with the little french poodle on her lap. The euro is unworkable and we are best out of it. Period.

Just had a Christmas card from a mate of mine.

He and his wife are selling up and moving to live on the Rue Pasteur, Lamagistere, France.

I did a Google Maps search on it to see what it is like and in the process happened across the following 'XLS file' on the Internet. The personal data that is insecure on it is amazing! It looks as though it is something to do with free Online file sharing and storage with a site called 4shared.

Search for 'export2.xls' and see what I mean.

Are you sure the file is not a virus or something funny???

AVG Antivirus say it is fine and quite OK to open.

The world is flat, the cheque is in the post.................................

Fred wrote :Last year, my grandchildren and parents stayed with my wife and self on a campsite in the Dordogne for three weeks.
For me, it was very pleasant to see the children of various nationalities (German. French, Dutch, Belgian, etc.) all playing happily together and the parents also being mutually helpful.

Mean while in another part of Disney Land , sorry ment Euro Land.

It is not right that black people go to countries like England and take over whole cities with their own cultures and languages. That is not tolerated here.



The English fans have a reputation for hooliganism and our boys are ready to fight them.

There have been racist attacks in Kiev not killings, just serious beatings and I cannot guarantee that won't happen when the English come to Kiev.

A lot of the hooligans like me are supporters of the Svoboda Party and agree with their view that people should stay in their own lands.

It is not right that black people go to countries like England and take over whole cities with their own cultures and languages. That is not tolerated here.

Right-wing gangs in Kiev were at the centre of street battles in which travelling Scottish fans were injured there in 2008.

Meanwhile in Donetsk more than 4,000 police will throw three rings of steel around the city's 51,000-seat Donbass Arena stadium for two of our qualifiers.

But yobs are already laying plans to pick off drunk or unwary Three Lions followers who wander away from the protective cordon.

Hooligan ringleader Valdik whose gang, known as "Za Boys", is glorified on its own website insisted neo-Nazi influence was not as strong as in Kiev. But he warned that a 700-strong army of thugs is preparing a violent welcome. He said:

England fans may not appreciate our welcome if we catch them alone without the police to protect them.

Fulham fans came here a couple of years ago and 20 of us took on 100 of them. We had no weapons just fists but they looked at us as though we had Kalashnikovs and refused to fight.

We are hoping for better sport when the famous England hooligans come next summer.

'Well alds, you know where to go for your summer holidays.

Mind if you leant to speak a few different languages you could join some of the other groups other than the BNP.

If you repeat that lie ,that am a member of the BNP i will sue you for libel. You are a hypocrite. You are just the same as those SUN reporters who printed lie's about Christopher Jefferies.

And we all know how you got on your high horse about that.

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Fitch, the American ratings agency, concluded that a "comprehensive solution" to the eurozone crisis was "technically and politically beyond reach" and warned that France could lose its AAA rating next year.

Oh dear, is that why the French are suddenly so sensitive?

Fitch kept AAA rating for France.

Alds,

Suggest that you re-read my posting.

Then compare it with your posting about Jefferies.

You may, or may not have the intelligence to see the vast amount of difference between the content of my postings and some of your own.

What you read into my post, is of your own making.

If you don't understand what I have just written, ask somebody to explain some of the possibilities to you.

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Also, I would also suggest that rather than deleting postings after you have posted and replace them with "delete", that you consider what you have typed before you post.


Many of your posts, would seem to me, to be attempts to be provocative and attempts to stimulate sectarian disharmony ie. inflammatory.

If that is not your wish, then suggest you modify your contributions. But that is entirely up to you.

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Enjoy your weekend.

Pompous twat

In interesting to see what Cameron perhaps whoring himself to :-

Is it the "moral state" he wishes or Christian values he wishes others to adhere to.

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Also to see what the UK and various countries are being ripped off by members of the City

http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com

http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/category/projects/europes-hidden-billions/

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/290946/Germans-beg-us-to-stay-in-the-EU

Is the Express still being published?

I wonder where your glimpses of life came from.

Previously thought it was the Sun, Mail and Sport

ECB helps Spanish borrowing costs halve
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/ecb-helps-spanish-borrowing-costs-124011506.html

One of the biggest threats to financial stability in the UK is potential interference by the European Union (EU) that would create a "race to the bottom" between regulators, the Bank of England has warned, according to The Telegraph. Brussels has demanded that key banking regulations are set centrally, making national supervisors little more than arms-length officials policing the EU code. However, in a discussion paper on the new "toolkit" of powers the Bank is requesting to prevent a rerun of the financial crisis, it warned that Brussels was proving an obstacle to reducing systemic risk. The Bank also appeared to endorse David Cameron's decision to veto the revised EU treaty after failing to secure additional safeguards for independent UK financial regulation.

Bear in mind that the BBC is paid 150 million pounds a year by the EU, so it will keep up a relentlessly cheerful attitude about the Euro, and Europe, to the very end.

When the eventual collapse arrives, although painful in the short term it will have little effect in the long term.

We will save about 8 billion pounds a year(remember we are the second biggest net contributor to the EU) and as only 20% of our GDP originates from the EU that is the only trade in doubt.

As Europe employs 4.5 million people to make that 20% I can't see that they would show us any hostility at all so in all probability our trade with Europe would be largely unaffected.

The only problem that I foresee is the large numbers of administrators in Brussels who would lose their high tax-free salaries; a recent article in the Sunday Times pointed out that there are 60,000 civil servants administering the Euro alone!

I look forward to the future with guarded optimism. Perhaps 2012 will be the year when Britain starts to drag itself out of the clutches of Europe.


The demise of the Euro seems inevitable, and in my view the sooner the better. Germany in particular would need to revalue to a New Mark at about 1.5€, and they would no longer be able to ride on the currency coat tails of the weaker brethren. They would not be able to filch rail coach contracts from such as Bombadier, nor flood our markets with cars at third world prices. The lean and mean British companies would become rightfully resurgent in export markets and share prices will soar.
I would write further, but a nice man in a white coat wants me to go with him. Bye bye.

Apologies to dozey1 and sippquixote on TMF

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http://www.popmodal.com/video/798/Margaret-Thatcher-The-Iron-Lady-at-her-Best

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13361934

It appears that Germans are enjoying cheap Euro.

US recovered during last year when $ was low, not it is EU's turn.

German finance minister Wolfgang Schaeuble says eurozone problems will be solved in 2012

See http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/german-finance-minister-wolfgang-schaeuble-080613846.html