renamed the kindergarden thread in honour of Haystack & Dil

ROTFLMAO - Dil's thread... is dead!!!! LOL!!!

Whilst the share is sitting at a lowly 3.75p the company has acquired financing for a further 12 months and is poised to launch some tried and tested products into the USA.

Many investors have been burned by this company in the last 2 years and it is going to have to prove to them and the city that it has the ability to move from a development company to a production company.. this is 'in the works' and it is hoped that a series of announcements beginning in February may convert sceptics of this share into believers in the future of videotelephony having arrived.

The carestation products do seem quite good and the company could make slow progress towards profitability. It is the entry into the consumer videophone market that has really given them problems. This is partly to do with the price which would have been about 1300 for two ISDN videophones plus the ISDN line intsallation at each end and double ISDN phone call costs to keep the quality up. The extremely slow uptake of ISDN has not helped either. BT did do a trial of the units, but that area seems to have gone rather quiet and it was ISDN anyway.

They are currently getting involved with the even more costly IP videophones which are far too expensive for the consumer market. Their only hope is the corporate market. This is a pretty unlikely success route as very few people within a company need to see each other on videophone anyway. This would cut down the numbers sold. They couldn't use them to call other companies until a few years time they become a bit more common. The carestation route seems to be their only chance. They have sold their office property to raise money (that's now been spent) and now they pay rent on it. MMD had a rights issue recently and raise a bit more working capital. It is not clear how long this will last at the current burn rate.

Lesk, oops, I think your disclaimer needs editing :-)

I understood they were ok on finance for the rest of this year and the real test is whether they can make a commercial breakthrough in that time.Without that the market will not fund them for another try.

Aw gawd another bloody MMD thread.

robber > thanks for that - sorry Bullshare won't happen again (forelock pulled)

Dil > I understand your sentiments entirely but stick with it, the story will have a happy ending.... :@)

Nathan > Yes! to be honest I don't think the city will ever give MMD another try.. this is 10 years development in the making - time enough many critics would say, but new technology is like many things today, the devil is always in the detail.... getting the products right took 20million in R&D and 6m of that was on the IP Videphone alone.

Only a successful commercial launch of these products in 2003 will save the company - the technology will get swallowed into a major player if they don't... so we will still all get to see each other eventually (ain't that nice!!)

:@)

Cheers Lesk :-)

Many people believe that the MMD745 IP Phone offering unparalleled quality, speed and range of capabilities is overpriced at 1,995 for the retail market, but MMD are not presently directing their business to that arena, concentrating instead in taking a small slice (small slice) of the 2billion global video conferencing market.

Currently the only decent competition that MMD has is Tandberg on a 'like for like' basis and the Tandberg 1000 whilst admittedly very slim and ergonomic (sexy) is priced at 5,000 plus 200 a year maintenance per phone. An expensive choice, when you consider that you get two MM745's for the price of one, no maintenance charge AND a host of added benefits to boot.


MMD are aiming at a slice of a marketplace that is growing at a tremendous rate and at 5% market share would capitalise them at what, 100million??. Admittedly that's a big chunk of cash but it makes you realise

that MMD do not have to be a 'world beater' to make a big splash, but they are!!
and MMD don't have to have a 'killer product' to compete, but they have.

If they can do that with the IP videophone over the next couple of years - would you consider a 3.5p a share investment now is worth the risk? or will you wait until their 5 a share before you buy in??

:@)

I think the potential is acknowledged by the market;but too many "blue sky"ideas fail to reach a commercial take-off point.The market is sceptical as to whether MMD can survive long enough to succeed.Where I agree completely with your analysis is that this will fly upward at the speed of light at the first sign of real orders being satisfactorily met.It is,however,a gamble rather than an investment at this stage.

I would be suprised to see the price rise much on announced orders and quickly fall back after. They would have to be making quite a profit to justify a substantial rise in share price in a market like this. Not just a rise in turnover, but a rise in PROFIT (that is from losses every year going back to the start of the company). The cash burn rate is probably the most significant factor in their success though.

Haystack, if you were a figures only man it might be the route you take, but this is a 'risk' fund and there is a lot of 'risk' capital out there that would leap at this share as soon as the future is 'assured'.

To be 'assured' the company would not only have to show there are orders coming in from multiple clients this year, but also a forward order book into 2004-5. This would be sufficient to drive the price very quickly higher while a market scrabbles for a small quantity of the available shares to a peak possibly of 1 before dropping back on a stronger baseline of 25p'ish.

Many investors are acutely aware of this and are sufficiently researched to see, and 'know' the odds are actually in MMD's favour. Not only do they have a product that competes on every level in the video conferencing/telephony arena but, more importantly overwhelmingly excels against every single one of them.

Now the financing is in place, the order book is beginning to bristle with interested companies and it will not be long before those 'excellent' products are in high demand.

Certainly the position is not yet 'assured' and their cashburn rate is significant, (but reduced against last years figures by a substantial amount) and they have orders flowing in on a small level that provides additional income. I would hazard an educated guess that they will not suffer unduly for another 12 months and so long as substantial orders are flowing before the end of the summer, they will be a healthy company in no time at all.

IMHO :@D

"that is from losses every year going back to the start of the company"

Not true.

There does seem to be some interest in the Carestation devices in the health care area, there seems to be no concrete evidence that substantial orders have been made.

Even with a few million pounds in orders the share price could not be justified even at 50p. A price of 1 would be absurd as it would take them a few years to achieve the level of profits to make even a slightly reasonable P/E ratio possible.

We all know that there are rumours about orders as yet unannounced. Even if these are true then some of that must already be in the price as it was on the back of these rumouts that they got new funding. Their other products like the IP videophone are just pie in the sky. I cannot see any amount of these being sold at all for several years to come.

If these rumoured orders turn out to be real then how long is it going to take to get the next batch. Their lead time in getting new orders has always been quite extended.

mrploppy
How far back do you want to go
1996 -0.50m
1997 -1.04m
1998 -1.30m
1999 -0.53m
2000 -2.48m
2001 -6.89m

Haystack - I didn't say the price of 1 was a 'normal' price, but due to the fact that there are ONLY 204million shares in circulation and that the owners of these shares are mainly in for the longterm it is going to be very difficult to prise these shares away from holders without some big incentive.. a 1 seems a likely breakpoint as does 60p.

The only reason this share is sitting at 3.5p is because of market sentiment.. it would/should be around 10-12p at moment and probably with its potential should reside in the 20-35p level... this will come. I

haystack - re losses, these are not really an issue except maybe to the taxman - as the 20m R&D has sucked up a lot of this cash and that is built into the program so to speak... no-one is going to be looking at losses in this type of situation - it's really history and only serves as an offset against future earnings.

This will be totally ignored once the orders start filtering through and will be laughed at within 12 months on the strength of value. IMHO

Haystack

You'll have to go back further than that :-)

I thought Emblaze systems was suppose to be 2 years ahead of the competition. According to its chairman that is.

Emblaze and MMD are not competitors and neither of them would think so either. One makes hardware videophones opersting over ISDN, IP networks and POTS phone sytems. The other is in the streaming media market providing software and hardware solutions mainly for mobile phone companies. It is difficult to compare the two companies as they are in different markets.

Haystack - your right but, many DO feel that these two companies compete.. I'm not sure if it is the lack of understanding of todays technology, or whether it's some form of protectiveness on the part of shareholders who aren't desirous of city attention being taken away from their 'shining light' investment.

It only appears to be Emblaze > Motion Media though, strange that??

I haven't noticed any comments either way. There is no real connection between them. More like the differnce between a greengrocer and a butcher.

I see where you are coming from Haystack.One is for thin people the other for fatcats.Just point me in the right direction.

LOL

These deals that are supposed to have been made are looking more and more uncertain every day. If they don't turn up then how long does the cash last.

Haystack - if the deals don't turn up the cash will last 1 year to 18 months, and by then MMd will have turned a corner and taken a new direction... not that it would matter to us as my shares would by then be almost worthless..for at least a year or two beyond..

You might be following the posts of the last week, or so on ADVFN and if so, you might also note there has been some very balanced discussion on the subject of orders and finance...

You already know the answer to the question you posed - you have done your research [haven't you?], therefore are you attempting to promote negative discussion, or look prophetic?

:-)

It has taken a huge amount of time to get the current deals if they turn up. How long is it going to take get more deals? Probably just as long. I have seen several comments from people who don't think the cash will last long enough and certainly not 18 months. Yes I am negative about MMD. Thye may sell a few Carestation units, but I can't see them selling ordinary videophones at all.

Haystack

your making assumptions based on fiction... "It has taken a huge amount of time to get the current deals if they turn up" Agreed it has taken a long time, but not so long as you think... they only started building the MM745 late last year when BT dropped ISDN.. and in so doing left MMD totally effed up a tree. Therefore, you could say they have bought a tremendously sophisticated and futureproofed product into the marketplace (at a cost of 6m in R&D) in record time... I'm not sure many companies could have turned themselves around as fast, or effectively.

"How long is it going to take get more deals? Probably just as long."

Nope!! not true, many orders are in the pipeline but, it just can't turn into jam today, at least until the first orders are processed. This is one of those products whose time is just beginning, we are on a cusp and global telephone communication is about to change, forever... all the telco's can see that, Yes! there is competition out there.. but, for eff's sake it's only you that believes that MMD will fail if they don't make a big hit... 5% of a global market is a bloody fortune.. and BT would love it if they could have that much!!

I am as unconvinced about as many things as you are, but I'm not out of my tree either... I can see where the problems are and whilst they represent clear and present difficulties - none of them are insurmountable.

You "can't see them selling ordinary videophones at all" - that is the type of childishly naive comment that puts your whole position into incredibility... grow up haystack... this is the real world - Even I could sell these phones even at 2.5k a pop.. and enough of them to make enough money to live on...(once I get my hands on them, that is).

This market is going to fly, and all the videophones in all the world will sell, if only for a short time until the market and brand leaders sort them out and people begin to choose product based on price, versatility, quality and futureproofing.

A point you need to consider...there is only one videophone that currently exceeds the maximum readily available upload/download capability of broadband - the MM745

the MM745 is the only videophone purpose built for broadband, and broadband is 'where it's at'!

the MM745 is half the price of its nearest competitor and on top of that has three times the functionality... if Tandberg can sell the 1000 at 5k a go, do you not think that a product 3 times better will sell for half the price...

Get into todays world haystack - your still running your programs in sinclair basic... this is the 21st century

I told you before Do your Research - people will laugh at you if you don't and it has nothing to do with being a bear or a bull, it's just a matter of knowing what your talking about - you don't!! yet!!

:@)

MMD have not had any success so far in selling the videophones and I can't see them finding it any easier in the future. The casre sttion videophone isa good product which may sell in moderate numbers and sustain MMD. The rest is just dreaming. No one seems to want videophones yet. Don't forget there is no one to call yet with one unless you buy two of them. Thye will catch on in the end, but not for a few years yet.

Haystack - as usual founder memmber of the 'I knowing nothing' brigade..speaks!! and utters words of abject pessimism.

Everything has a start point - even your education (well maybe not that far so quick!!)

'The rest is just dreamming'

Sorry haystack but you talk just as much twaddle here as you do on ADVFN... so you are as of now permanently squelched...

:@D

The problem with these types of threads is that they become fan clubs for particular stocks. No one is permitted to say anything realistic about the company. The threads just get filled up with posts which just pat each of the posters on the back for being so clever to have bought this stock in the first place. This stock that was 1+ and is now 3p. They don't make a profit and don't even have a lot of turnover. They have had to sell their offices to raise cash and now have had to do a forced rights issue. They deal in a product that seems to have almost no market.

The MMD BBs got excited last year about BT supposedly promoting their videophone. This came to nothing when BT did test marketing and found no market out there for them. They couldn't even sell the 1,000 units thhat they bought for the test market. MMD make good products that people do not want. This is the Amstrad Emailer all over again. If you read MMD threads then don't expect any approximation to the real world. It is just another one of the grim fairy stories.

"Don't forget there is no one to call yet with one"

Except for the hundreds of thousands of other videophones and videoconferencing systems that are already out there.

"MMD make good products that people do not want. This is the Amstrad Emailer all over again."

The Amstrad Emailer is a heap of junk and in no way can be compared to MMDs products.

"No one seems to want videophones yet.", "no market out there for them", etc.

TANDBERG sold 19,585 videoconferencing systems in 2002, up 65% on 2001 unit sales. Pre-tax profit for the year 2002 was NOK 572 million ($82 million) up 51%

and Tandberg aren't even the biggest player in the market.

Yawn! Shall I go on?

A domestic user of a videophone is not going to be calling someone with a videoconference piece of kit. The reference to the Amstrad Emailer was to do with the lack interest and sales. Tanberg will continue to sell their kit to the videoconference market and I would be suprised to see MMD selling into that market. Your post is similar to most other MMD posts. It is just wishful thinking. And yes, your post was a yawn.

"Your post is similar to most other MMD posts."

Except my posts tend to be backed up by facts and direct experience of the videophone/videoconferencing industry.

Haystack

What makes you think that MMD are after domestic users and not business users? Why would you be surprised to see MMD selling into Tandberg's market when the mm745 is a direct competitor of the Tandberg 1000? Why do you think you know more about this market than anyone else?

Try looking at www.emblaze.com.They have the real straming video software.

Try looking at www.emblaze.com.They have the real straming video software.

hotfinance14,

I'm not sure that BLZ have a particular product like the MM745, I thought they were targeting a totally different market, ie mobile phone video telephony, although i could be wrong.

The MM745 is a specific product with a specific function, and, as Haystack says, has no market yet. I personally think there is a danger MMD will go bust BEFORE there is a market for their products, the lack of news on orders SHOULD be worrying for all holders, IMHO.

This share has fallen from 1.80 to 3.5p in a relatively short time, and sold off their premises into the bargain. The market rarely gets it wrong.

I did hold, down to 89p, and am pleased I no longer do. Even a couple of smallish orders aren't goimg to lift MMD, they need some really big ones NOW!

Sorry guys, I can't be optimistic about MMD, I fear the worst every day that there is no news, but I really hope I'm wrong!

Andy.

BLZ and MMD are in different markets. Frankly the one way video streaming that BLZ do is a piece of cake compared to real time two way video.

problem with emblaze is they have a product no-one wants (yet!) and only have a mountain of cash to show for it (as extracted from the shareholders). They provide a software product which is shortly to become an extremely enviable bolt on to mobile phones and anyone holding their shares should consider the medium term (1-3 years).

MMD technology is hardware AND software based and is subject to a moving platform of evolution - 'evolve! or die' is the watchword for all these products for BLZ as well as MMD. Whilst the hardware market for MMD is probably going to be around for a couple of years, the software [codec] might live longer if they continue to develop it and this is where their future lies as a business.

OEM market is the future for MMD, similarly with BLZ... both have their uses and their paths converge somewhere in the not too distant future.. they are NOT competitors but, allies (if they but knew it).

You just HAVE to laugh!!

I wonder what Kittens in jelly taste like.

haystack right click on the picture and view properties - you can then see where I found it... :@)

I had already seen it and that is why I replied, I have a habit of right clicking on all pics on BBs. It is in fact nothing to do with me.

I realised that when there was nothing to do with the fall, and fall of videotelephony.... :@D

lesk,

guess who this is!

Andy, I know it's not haystack and I've met your girlfriend. so it can only be a 'slimmer (younger) version' of you :@) (I'd almost say the 60's but, that makes you....old!.....) :@D

:)

Meet "Giant Haystacks", scourge of the wrestling ring a few years ago!

Crikey. I Remember him... LOL :)

"problem with emblaze is they have a product no-one wants"

... and the problem with MMD is .......

Sorry Dil - it was so peaceful weithout you - I'm leaving it that way

Dil - 10 Feb'03 - 00:22 - 53 of 53 (Filtered)

Bye!

Dill
Hi. We can talk to each other about MMD more peacefully as you have been filtered. What do you think of MMD? Do you think that these 'deals' really exist and will they be worth having if they ever appear?

Already priced in if they happen is my guess. May get a spike then down we go again.

If they don't happen then it will be curtains.

Exactly

Switch to Emblaze.They are a cetain winner.

Switch to Emblaze.They are a cetain winner.

Another joker.

Lesk , thanks for the dedication mate ... thrown dolly out the pram again have we ?

Anyone here have access to Michael Walters site where I understand they are discussing a bullish press release from Windriver Systems in the USA ?.My contact tells me that this outfit are giving rave reviews to MMD and they are talking about serious orders.

It would be surprising if Wind River was not bullish about Motion Media as the MM745 uses an Operating System (RTOS) from Windriver Systems. I would guess that any serious orders are just hype and speculation. It is pretty common for technology partners to be bullish about each other's parts of any deals, whether they sell any or not. This old news anyway. It is interesting that MMD are maing more of it than Wind River Systems. You have to really hint for the news item on their Web site. What initially looks like a news story turns out to be just marketing hype.


Motion Media Technologys mm745 videophone delivers TV-quality video calls with the same ease as a traditional telephone.

13 January 2003-Wind River Systems, Inc. (Nasdaq:WIND), the worldwide market leader in embedded software and services, today announced that the worlds first Internet videophone developed by UK-based Motion Media Technology uses Wind River real time operating system (RTOS), VxWorks, to control the delivery of TV-quality video calls with the same ease of use as a standard telephone.

"It is interesting that MMD are making more of it than Wind River Systems."

I'd say the opposite is true given that Windriver have included an interview with John Martin, MMD's technical director:

http://www.espial.com/index.php?page=news_feat_jan03

This link is not to Windriver Systems. It is to Espial software. They are just another supplier to MMD for the mm745. At least get your facts and research right. It might help to read the internet page that you are linking to.

It's a fair cop :-) I did that one too quickly!

It's an interesting interview though. A few snippets of information that haven't come out anywhere else.

Can MMD investors have any faith left in the company after two Directors have resigned and 12 employees were sacked, presumably due to lack of cash to last them long enough for orders to appear. What has happened to the orders that were promissed in the prospectus for the placing and rights issue at the beginning of the year. The rampers are still in evidence on various BBs. The usual nonsence is being purveyed, such as "I have a secret source that I cannot reveal that tells me that orders are just around the corner, so buy now while they are cheap". This is all very reminiscent of companies like Dialog just before they went belly up. The only thing MMD haven't tried is a change of name.

This must be some kind of record, an MMD thread without a ramp for four months!

Some MMD threads have more ramps than a multi storey!

A LOT more.

I have been kicked off one .... for not being a ramper.

I thought I might find you three here - lol.

Dil, I asked the power that be:

From : Trawler
Date : 2003-06-25 10:06:35
Message : And you believe everything Dil says! ROFLMAO

Well I don't think it was for ramping them :-)

The fact is I cannot access the mmd thread so have effectivley been censored.

oh I see, you've been banned from just that thread?

Yes , either that or everyone has edited all their posts.

Hmmmm, I would say the former!

Oh dear , must have been something I said to that nice Mr Lesk.

Dil
What their man is trying to say is that you have been banned from that thread for posting unacceptable material of quality below required standard.

All IMHO DYOR WHFO TIAA and all that.

Can anyone join in here or is this thread reserved for Dil? (Sorry, Haystack, move over, give a chap some room.)

I have a theory that MMD is a sort of left-over from the dot-com bubble, an overhyped tech stock that hasn't got the energy to burst.

MM

It is what might be termed a failed 'concept stock' in that the concept of fixed base videophones does not seem to have found any favour with anyone either in the domestic or the corporate market. The bursting may not happen. It may just deflate due the slow puncture of the cash burn and lack of sales.

Martini , I will have you know that I made the Ashley James top 10 all time favourite posters list ..... you and Kayak didn't.

:-)

He was only being politically correct with a token Welshman :)
Who was number one on the list?
Ashley James by any chance?
M

Some guy called Mike Boydell ..... never heard of him.

Dil,

Have you been totally banned from SP?

MMD certainly provide some vibrancy to the BB's they're discussed on, that's for sure! There are over 17,000 posts on the main ADVFN thread, and over 1,000 already on SP.

It's quite amazing that so many posts about a company that has fallen 98% in value, yet so few on threads about companies that are really building shareholder value, and thus, their shareprice!

I see the recent heightened activity in MMD shares has expired, and we are back where we were, pricewise.

I still suspect that the recent activity was institution(s) selling into strength.

No Andy but I am unable to view or post to the mmd thread.

Dil,

I see Codswallop made a reference to this sort of thing on the CMR thread on ADVFN this afternoon.

Not sure if he was referring to SP or not, maybe fillyaboots,which is more like a Minmet bulls club, and they erase negative posts.

It's their board Andy so they make the rules and I have no problem with that but I will not be dictated to regarding which threads I can or cannot read or write on so will not be reading or writing on any.

Dil,

I have to say that I'm surprised that they took the action they did.

How can you have a discussion BB that excludes those with bearish views?
It makes the whole idea of BB's meaningless.

I really think they should have looked at other ways to sort it out, although I believe they did give a lot of thought to possible solutions. I have met the owners, and they're certainly a decent bunch of guys, although I understand you feel hard done by here.

MAybe you should start an MMd thread on Financebb?, we need the critical mass!

MMD price has fallen again today.

Now 2.75 offer

Dil,

Is this the MMD thread?

Don't start me off :-)

What we need is Lesk .... 1 by xmas and a fiver 2004/5 ....

Personaly I don't reckon the whole company will be worth that by then.

Dil,

Lesk asked me to borrow 1 this morning in another plaice, maybe your post will turn out to be prophetic?

LOL!!! LOL!!! ROTFLMAO!!! :)

Lol , get off my thread Lesk your not invited.

ROTFLMAO... I'm gatecrashing - you should be pleased... :) it looks like a dead donkey here... :)

There is not a lot to say about MMD apart from how unsuccessful it has been and probably wil be.

There is more to say about the people who ramp MMD and worship at the altar of videotelephony.

Haystack - at least we don't go around cut'n'pasting posts from other BB's and sending them in emails to companies with the deliberate intention ot maligning all parties concerned.

You don't deserve to be a member of this community.


Post edited by moderator.

I emailed your comments to Cisco as I believe them to be untrue. I have no interest in damaging MMD as I am a shareholder in MMD. I am concerned that only the truth about stocks that I hold is posted on BBs. Rampers do no good to companies. Their interest is a short term rise in the price of a share. When the rampers rumours are seen as just that then the shares come down again. Cutting and pasting from BB to BB has been common since BBs began. You do it yourself, so why complain.

:@)

Moderator , please do not edit Lesk's post ... let the world see what a twat he is.

Cheers

Dil

I notice that critical mass on the mmd threads on moneyam are not being achieved [unless you count dilcrap and haystackdroppings as any kind of mass]. Seems to me that where there are no lesk's there are 'no comments' :)

I hadn't noticed that anyone was discussing MMD. I thought we were all discussing 'discussing MMD'. Isn't this the discussing discussing thread.

Haystack could explain why your so at home, for sure... :)

Yes, I was right. Here we have another person discussing discussing MMD. This is a new slant on BBs. Instead of discussing some interesting topic, we can discuss discussing. Of course there will be the Meta discussions where the discussion of dissussing discussions will take place. There will be a queue for that one.

3 year chart



1 year chart







recent chart







1 year on chart

What is the oft heard cry of the fundamentalists?


CHARTS CAN BE WRONG!

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What is all this nonsense on here? This seems to an overspill row from another plaice. lesk, must you continue your paranoia in front of every audience you can find?

nope!! just trying to make sure it finds its way to the correct home.. and here it is ... :)

Edited by Moderator

moderator. pls erase the above cut n paste from lesk it is from another bb and has no place here

Andy - found your way home then... :)

Missed me did you Lesk ?

How can MMD compete with the latest from Apple

http://www.apple.com/ichat/

nick,

They probably can't, but that won't stop these guys ramping it to death!

Actually just checked out the link and it looks really good!

Hope that loo roll doesn't taste too much like humble pie boys!!

regards

Bust by xmas.

teletiger,

One swallow doesn't make a summer!

Ok the price has risen a bit, but why?
Where are the RNS announcements?
Where are the trading updates?

I remain to be convinced, and await real news first.

I see MMD is in a reversal now. The candlestick chart is interesting for the reversal pattern.

MMD on the up again.....only news is as follows
Motion Media PLC
5 September 2003


Significant shareholder

The Company received a notification earlier today that following recent
purchases - Mr C.P. Blackbourn now holds 18,500,000 Ordinary Shares representing
8.66% of the company's issued share capital. The Company has a total of
213,542,535 Ordinary Shares now in issue.

Contact James McGeever Tel: 020 7512 0191


This information is provided by RNS
The company news service from the London Stock Exchange
LGGGGLZKZGFZM

still no firm contract wins but the interest in them seems to have returned

13% on the day 18p to buy.......back to end august high prior to company announcement that no new contract / order was in the pipeline

Any rumours?

what is the point of advertising posts made on 5 September when the last message is dated 11 February. Interesting though this news may be it has little to do with today's market.

Please give us up to date info

Angi
sorry I miss your point
the last post prior to mine on the 5th sept was not feb it was August 4th, yes a fair distance apart but not quite 7 months.

My point is :-
the thread was running, it was the first thread I found about MMD, it was about the company in question, and the price had risen significantley during the day.
Add to that some news about another large aquisition of stock by Colin Blackbourn who is now holding over 8% of all issued stock in the company. MMD rose 17.8% on the day so maybe, just maybe, there was a bit more to the news than just "interesting"

I was under the impression that this bb was for the benefit of the members of money am and to help draw their attention to items of news that they may have missed.
Maybe in future I should keep my typing finger in my pocket, counting my small change.
Thanks for your valued input anyway.

Please feel free to email me should you think my reply is not in keeping with the way the board should be used.

Apologies to jules99 who indeed started a MMD thread after this one, but unfortunately I searched by epic and this had been mistyped with MMO

ttt

Plantec dont thank me just send me a blank check, or your a/c details...whats your sort code again...?

ta.

Jules99.

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