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Traders Thread & Thoughts - Monday 20th October (SGE)     

Crocodile - 19 Oct 2003 13:21

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Crocodile - 19 Oct 2003 13:22 - 2 of 27

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United Kingdom Calendar  20th - 24th October

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 Legal & General (9 Month) 660m exp. Sage (F)

09:30 Sep M4 Broad Money m/m 0.0%, y/y 6.6% prev. 09:30 Sep M4 Sterling lending 4.78 prev. 09:30 Sep PSNCR 3.418 prev. 09:30 Aug trade balance estimate

Lexmark, Citigroup, Hasbro, Texas Instruments, 3M Company (Q3) Southwest Airlines (Q3) WM Wrigley (Q3)

15:00 Sep leading indicators 0.1% exp.

Peugeot Citroen

Norsk Hydro (Q3) Novartis (Q3)

11:00 EMU July trade balance

Allied Domecq (F) PBT 476-493m exp. Arm Holdings (Q3) PBT 5.5m exp.

Brambles (AGM, Trading statement) Stagecoach (Trading statement)

11:00 Q3 CBI business optimism 11:00 October CBI total orders

SBC Comms, UPS, AT&T

Capital One (Q3), Eli Lilly (Q3)

Hilton Hotel (Q3), Amgen (Q3) Bank One (Q3) United Parcel Services (Q3) Bancorp (Q3)

Valeo, Electrolux (Q3) DaimlerChrysler (Q3) Schneider Electric F (Q3) Teleca S (Q3)

GlaxoSmithKline (Q3) PBT 1,578-1712m exp. Egg (Q3) PBT consensus loss of 2m exp.

Reuters (Instinet Trading statement) Diageo (AGM)

09.30  MPC vote breakdown.

Eastman Kodak, Schering Plough, McDonalds, Bank of NY, Merck, Computer Associates, Eli Lilly, AOL Time Warner, Anheuser-Busch

Lucent Technologies (Q3), Whirlpool (Q3)

Sungard Data Systems (Q3) Symantec (Q3), Tupperware (Q3)

Commerzbank, LOreal, Casino

Adecco F (Q3) Michelin F Peugeot F Sanofi-Synthelabo F (Q3)

Ex Dividend: Aggreko Plc (2.2), Armour Group PLC (0.35), Axon Group Plc (1), Benchmark Group Plc (3.1), Bovis Homes Group Plc (5.3), Express Dairies Plc (9.6), Fairplace Consulting Plc (3), Go-Ahead Group Plc (18), Hays Plc (3.63), James R Knowles Holdings PLC (2.1), Kiln Plc (0.2), Mears Group Plc (0.35), Mowlem PLC (2.8), Ricardo Plc (6.3), SIG Plc (4.1),  Coal PLC (5), West Bromwich Albion Plc (170), Yule Catto & Co Plc (5.3)

Amvescap (Q3) AstraZeneca (Q3 GMT 10:00) PBT 720-1000m exp. Aviva (Q3) New Business 1.8bn exp. Marconi (Q2) Shell (Q3) PBT $3.25bn exp.

 

Dow Chemicals, Applied Micro Circuits,  Bristol Myers, Xerox (Q3)

Colgate Palmolive (Q3) Goodyear (Q3), Medimmune (Q3) Microsoft (Q1), NCR (Q3) Reebok (Q1), Schering-Plough (Q3)

13:30 US weekly jobless claims, 383k exp.

HVB Group, Renault, Lafarge, Volvo

Autonomy (Q3) BHP Billiton (AGM)

WPP(Q3)

09:30 Q3 preliminary GDP q/q 0.6%, y/y 2.0% prev. 09:30 Sep retail sales m/m, y/y 0.2%, 3.8% exp.

 

Brunswick

 

France Telecom, SwedbankEssilor F (Q3)

Renault F (Q3) Royal Dutch Petroleum NL (Q3)

Syngenta CH (Q3), Volvo S (Q3) Wanadoo F (Q3). Web.de D (Q3)

10:00 EMU current account NSA 1.28 prev.

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Alterian (I) VTR(F)

10 Group (AGM) Aero Inventory (AGM), Mosaique (AGM) THB (AGM), Drew Scientific (AGM)

BBA mortgage lending survey (0830 GMT)

15:00 Existing Home Sales 15:00 New Home Sales

 

 

BP (I) Bristol and West Investments (I) Peacock Group (I), Interregnum (F)

13:30 AM Durable Orders 15:00 AM Consumer Confidence 19:15 PM FOMC Meeting

 

BHP Billiton (I), Celsis International (I) Unilever (I)

Charterhouse Communications (AGM) Getmapping.com (AGM), Bristol Water (EGM) Pacific Horizon Trust (AGM), Cambridge Mineral Resources (AGM) Daejan Holdings (EGM), Murray Income Inv Trust (EGM)

 

 

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Chloride Group (I) Jennings (I)

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13:30 Chain Deflator-Adv. 13:30 Employment Cost Index 13:30 GDP-Adv. 13:30 Initial Claims 15:00 Help-Wanted Index 19:00 FOMC Minutes

 

Ambient (I)

 European Diamonds (EGM)

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13:30 Personal Income 13:30 Personal Spending 13:45 Mich Sentiment-Rev. 15:00 Chicago PMI

 

 

Trading Thoughts & Week Ahead  --  Sunday 19th Oct

chart20.gifIt is a very busy week ahead with 10 blue-chip firms reporting which represents 21 percent weighting of the FTSE index.

Monday

Sage the last remaining FTSE tech stock said in April 11 first-half results were in line with expectations. Analysts expect Sage to increase its dividends buy at least 7% this year in the year ahead.

Legal and General  On Friday UBS reiterated its buy on while trimming the target price to 115p from 118p.

Tuesday Allied Domecq could signal its intention to acquire an alternative Australian wine producer after its unsuccessful attempt to buy Australian company Peter Lehmann Wines. Profits are likely to be unchanged at 480m for the year with sales increases in its quick service restaurants and wine sales offset by higher pensions costs, weakness of the US dollar and inventory de-stocking. ARM Holdings are expected to say that revenues are flat and produce profits of 5.5m against 6.5m in the previous three months  Lower royalty income because of deflation and a build up in inventories in Asia is likely to have affected turnover. Investors will be keen to hear the company's thoughts on the prospect of a rebound in 2004.

CBI's industrial trends survey will offer clues on the pace of economic revival

WednesdayGlaxoSmithKline will provide investors with a chance to gauge the impact of generic competition following the launch of a copycat version of its blockbuster anti-depressant Paxil. Despite the competition sales are likely to show growth in the high single digits and profits are expected to rise to around 1.7bn from 1.4bn.   In July, Glaxo launched two new products in the US, Levitra and Webutrin.

Reuters is trying to offset falling sales by costs cutting.  In July it expected full-year revenues to decline around 11%, though it stressed that its "Fast Forward" rationalisation programme was progressing well, achieving cost savings ahead of plan.Bad Egg? Q3 figures are expected to have been hit by its costly attempt to crack the credit card business in France which has failed and it may have withdraw from the French market. Predicting the company's performance is a difficult task and analysts forecasts vary by as much as 52m.  There is also a rumour that the Prudential intends to sell its 79 percent stake in Egg. (Keep an eye on Prudential!)

The minutes from the Bank of England's last meeting will show if the mood is shifting towards a raise in interest rates. House builder stocks could react to the news. ThursdayShell is expected to report strong Q3 earnings with growth up to 1.87bn from 1.34bn a year earlier. Higher oil and gas prices following the Iraq conflict will be partly offset by the hot summer weather in EuropeAstraZeneca, which reports Q3 figures has also been hit by generic competition to its ulcer drug Prilosec. But it has also been busy getting drugs to the market with its cholesterol treatment Crestor in the US and recently said 14 European countries have extended the use of Seroquel to treat manic-depressive illness. Sales are expected to have grown by around 10% but anaysts expect profits to have slipped to 511m from 538m. However  In July, AstraZeneca was upbeat about is full-year prospects and lifted its profit estimates by 6%.

Amvescap: On Friday Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein upgraded it to reduce from sell, with a 470p price target FridayAutonomy release Q3 results and said at the start of the month that earnings for the last quarter should be ahead of market estimates.

WPP said in August that it reckoned the advertising industry was starting to climb out of the bathtub of recession. Well lets hope they haven't slipped on the soap.

Third quarter GDP data will show if the UK's economic revival is still on track

Thoughts

As expected last week the market optimism lifted the FTSE 100 some 80 points to a 14-month high of 4,383 points on Wednesday before it lost some ground falling to 4,344 on Friday, up 0.6 percent on the week and more than 6 percent already this month. 

In the U.S. Q3 earnings increased the confidence that the 3 year slump is finally over with improving economic data being reflected in company profits. Technology stocks rose as companies reported that spending on IT and software is increasing.

But there is usually a BUT or HOWEVER and this week is no exception with a feeling that the rally may have gone too far and too fast. This nervousness may result in a fall back next week especially as it is the anniversary of the 1987 stock market crash when the FTSE 100 tumbled 22 percent in two days.

Looking at the chart we have a trend trading range of 4310/4410 for the week ahead which can be extended forward to 4440/4540 by Xmas if there is not a change in sentiment. With the current FTSE at 4344 we have more upside potential than down but I would not be surprised to see a test of support mid week.

As always I look forward to your thoughts and comments on the week ahead! 

David (Crocodile) David@FTSEDOW.COM  www.FTSEDOW.com   

All the above comments are purely a personal opinion and no investment advice is intended.  Please do your own research.

 

Crocodile - 19 Oct 2003 13:22 - 3 of 27

 Sunday News

Headlines 19th October

Superstores To Face Christmas Day Ban - Sky News - Government faces huge debt deficit - Britain faces a current account deficit of over twice Chancellor Gordon Brown's budget forecast and a net borrowing requirement of around 10 billion pounds above his 27 billion forecast for the 2003 financial year, according to a survey. Reuters. Shareholders reportedly want to oust ITV Carlton Communications and Granada, boss - Reuters Equitable Exes Lose Fight - Nine former non-executive directors of Equitable Life have failed to block a multi-million pound lawsuit launched against them by the troubled mutual insurer.The legal action was launched in the wake of the financial disaster which brought it close to collapse three years ago. SKY

SUNDAY TIMES Unilever and Kerry bid for PJ Smoothies Dixons Business Digest Alizyme boss finds a cure for the stock market blues Alizyme Green has two days to save himself Ex-boss missed out on First Active share jackpot Arcadia Group I can manage as well as buy Barclays Barrett to get 500,000 for a three-day week Irish Business Digest Independent News and Media Revealed: Monsoons rebel shareholder Consortium plans 103m Gresham bid Cable and Wireless Bank in cheap calls connection Randgold to raise its Ashanti bid Scottish and Newcastle Price rises leave publicans crying in their beer Royal Bank of Scotland Bank in cheap calls connection Sharewatch: Anglo Irish Bank Capita Group

Granada Focus: Coup at ITV Judgment Day: Should you buy shares in Matalan? Dixons Scottish Business Digest EMI, Granada, Carlton The truth will out no matter what Fidelity says Vital Statistics Cattles Holdings Sharewatch: Paddy Power Antisoma Drugs firms help Footsie to climb further Barclays What made me do a Ratner? Cattles Holdings Cattles boss takes a creditable line HBOS Value rolls on up Carlton Coup at ITV Cattles Holdings Sean Mahon's working day Sharewatch: Minmet JJB Sports Directors' Deals: Sportswear boss nets a 10m profit Working Space  

SUNDAY TELEGRAPH Granada, Carlton Tuesday deadline for Michael Green to quit ITV Balfour Beatty Network Rail plans to take back all maintenance work Shell to build $5bn 'clean fuel' plant in Qatar Arcadia Group Philip Green pays back 500m debt to HBOS

Barclays Barrett reaches his credit limit Mitchells & Butlers Carr: It's Spirit's funeral

Canary Wharf Reichmann faces pressure to quit BSkyB investors turn up heat on Murdoch over job for son

Shares in advertising giant WPP have risen 25% to 570 1/2p this year, although there should be further to go as the group's target of a market upturn in 2004 nears. Third quarter results next month should also boost the price. Pharmaceuticals group GlaxoSmithKline is due to update investors on its drugs pipeline in December, so analysts are expecting an uplift in anticipation of some positive news. Shares are a buy at 1282p. High-speed telecommunications provider Fibernet last week announced sharply reduced losses and a surge in new contracts. With analysts looking for the company to move into the black in 2006, Fibernet is a buy at 96 1/2p. Sondex, a company which makes equipment to monitor oil and gas fields, has been a solid performer since joining the market in June. It is due to open an office in the UAE, while revenues growth rates have increased. Buy at 133 1/2p. Shares in specialist mortgage lender Paragon should have further to go despite more than doubling in the last year to 361p. The group, which concentrates on the buy-to-let market, should benefit from growth in the rented sector. Eckoh, the speech application group, should net at least 100,000 from a deal with BT and TD Waterhouse to provide share prices to more than 1,000 customers. Further growth could come from a recent acquisition. Buy at 15 1/4p.

OBSERVER Carlton, Granada ITV boards to resist City rebels BT Group Eurocreep infiltrates the United Kingdom Egg beaten by the French Randgold set to table counter-bid for Ashanti

Trinity Mirror of gloom as Sly rescue plan stalls London Stock Exchange Not so fast to the altar, LSE

Black cloud over BP oil deal Carlton Is Fidelity tuning up an American ITV? Barclays Trouble on the cards BP, Lloyds, RBOS, Bear market over? That's just a load of bull Barclays Will the gaffer decide to go?  

SUNDAY MAIL Treasury 5bn raid on miners' pensions Break-up on cards for Kingston Cost-cutting drive at phone group Vodafone back in the spotlight Barclays hit by customer backlash, Credit card anger swamps phone lines Green tipped for 200m-plus profits, Strong results due from Bhs, Arcardia Connex faces a fast-track exit, Rail firm may be forced out early

Mortgage misery 'within 18 months', Runaway credit prompts 5% rates fear 2.5bn Laurel pubs sale looming, Deutsche Bank looking for way out Suitors hover for Chelsfield empire, Property company up for sale Rolls poised for Boeing 747 order, Clean-engine contract worth 14bn Turmoil in the cinema boardroom, Odeon directors head for exit

INDEPENDENT Corus accuses utilities of electricity rebate scam Vodafone, mmO2, Orange Hello? Is anybody out there listening? British Energy Energy minister to bat for BNFL in Japan

The Week Ahead: Glaxo update will be easy to swallow HSBC From the ivory tower to Bangalore, the world's local bank listens no more

SCOTLAND ON SUNDAY  Barclays Concern over corporate credit quality Allied Domecq Whisky giants in high spirits as sales healthy Wolfson's full debut to shed light on strength of electronics sector Online Travel All-Hotels to shed jobs in cost-cutting drive

Cheer for AWG investors with 150m property sale Caledonia Investments Cayzer saga must not drag on Staff pour 3m into coffers of Martin Currie BA faces extra 100m pension bill a year

SUNDAY EXPRESS

In the week that Concorde is due to make its final flight, British Airways shares are tipped to take off from their current 185 1/2p. If regulators back an Air France and KLM merger, there is little to stop stronger links with American Airlines. Property group Chelsfield's chairman Elliot Bernard is heading a management buyout bid, although shareholders are likely to hold out for a higher price. Worth a punt at 315 1/2p. Bid speculation surrounding football club Manchester United shows no sign of ending, yet the share price - currently at 233p - has not responded in the way many City experts had expected

INVESTORS CHRONICLE Tips: Buy Imperial Tobacco (IMT) at 976p - John Laing (LNGO) at 164p - Tellings Golden Miller (TGM) at 105p - Tex (TXH) at 135p - Stream Group (SEA) at 16p.

Sell Computacenter (CCC) at 437p.Tip Updates: Buy Smith & Nephew (SN) and Cookson (CKSN). Hold Fairplace Consulting (FCO). Air Music and Media (AMU) and ITE (ITE) are good value.Company Results: Buy Bellway (BWY).

SHARES MAGAZINE Plays of the Week: Buy Henlys (HNL) at 90p - Zoo Digital (ZOO) at 9.1p - Pennant International (PEN) at 16p.Tip Updates: Buy Arena Leisure (ARE) and Inveresk (IVS). Sell Brit Insurance (BRE),

Gaming Plays to Gamble On, Speculative Buy London Clubs (LCI), Buy Paddy Power (PAP). Hold Rank Group (RNK) and William Hill (WMH), Reduce Stanley Leisure (SLY). Neutral Wembley (WMY).

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little woman - 19 Oct 2003 17:35 - 4 of 27

Evening all,

Sorry to hear about your legal problems croc, some people just think they can bully others! Hope you had a chance to chill...

snoball - 19 Oct 2003 21:53 - 5 of 27

Thanks for the Clock reminder.
New York change theirs at the same time don't they?

Crocodile - 19 Oct 2003 22:02 - 6 of 27

Yep!
D.

Mega Bucks - 19 Oct 2003 22:03 - 7 of 27


Thanks Croc,

still long lgen cna gnk fpt.....will be adding more lgen after the comment from ubs:-)

still looking bby ctm to go long...has any one any comments please ?

hope you all have a great week ahead....

Mega...

snoball - 20 Oct 2003 06:10 - 8 of 27

never mind.

ThePlayboy - 20 Oct 2003 07:11 - 9 of 27

MON FTSE PP

R2 4371
R1 4357
PP 4346
S1 4332
S2 4321

WEEKLY FTSE PP

R2 4433
R1 4389
PP 4349
S1 4305
S2 4265

FTSE FIBS

4320
4275
4238
4200


Fri close was just under the pp after gaining 9.5pts in the auction, close was also on weekly R1! Towards the end of the week the ftse has started to show some weakness after the midweek high, closed below my 60 min sig line yesterday at 360 and has done so again today, US has also sold good figs this afternoon! Personally exp a clearer picture to emerge after the ops exp In US tonight, a close under 9700 clearly breaking the uptrend may signal the turn imho. Rsi on ftse and Dow overbought, over the next few weeks looking to 9200 being tested on the dow, up from a revised 9000 I had a few weeks ago and then for the uptrend to continue into year end! All imho!

ThePlayboy - 20 Oct 2003 07:11 - 10 of 27

Updated 10/17 for Monday's market.
Key DOW Levels for 10/20
UP Above 9,760
DN Below 9,700

Downside Break
Dow breaks major lower trend line, trends lower to Close.

From prior commentary, "...The index has moved sideways the past four sessions, which suggests that the uptrend may be coming to an end. Watch the lower trend line at 9,725 for a downside break..."
The Dow got the downside break of the major lower trend line today and trended lower throughout the session, shedding 70 points by the Close, seen in both the 15 and 60 Minute Charts. The break of the line indicates that a change in trend will likely occur, or at the very least, that the current uptrend will cease and trade sideways until direction is established.

The Dow held at 9,700 today and even pushed slightly higher off this level late in the session. A downside break below this level Monday will likely spark an even bigger sell-off as implied by the Daily Chart. The Dow looks to be beginning to move lower off the clear upper boundary of the wide range. A break below 9,700 could spark another big push lower within the channel.

However, if the Dow can continue to hold above 9,700, it should base at the highs until a break from the wide range occurs. An upside break through 9,760 could spark another push higher within the range. In other words, today's decline is most likely the start of a sell-off, but it could also be the start of a wide consolidation at the highs of the prior rally. We need a few days of action in here to find out which way it is going to play out. A break through 9,700 would pretty much confirm the sell-off theory.

Short Term Dow

Short term, the Dow has formed a tight range from 9,713 to 9,728, seen in the 1 Minute Chart. Watch this range for a break to gauge direction at the Open Monday.

Medium Term Dow

In the medium term, we entered the market Short today at 9,725 and are still in the position. We will continue to hold 10 point stops for the position and will stay Short below 9,700. Look for Longs above 9,760.

NASDAQ & S&P

The NASDAQ and S&P each got downside breaks from their respective channels today, which push the indexes lower. Watch for a continuation pattern to indicate further weakness. *

Summary

The Dow finally got a solid break of the lower trend line that has formed beneath the lows of the last couple of weeks. The downside break indicates further downside movement in the medium term, but we must see a break below 9,700 first.


Crocodile - 20 Oct 2003 07:39 - 11 of 27

Morning all, LGEN looking good for a long and ICI a sell

Crocodile - 20 Oct 2003 09:49 - 12 of 27

Reversed LGEN now short & Short ICI
Very slow out there

little woman - 20 Oct 2003 09:52 - 13 of 27

Worse than slow - I may have to go out for a run later unless something happens soon!

jules99 - 20 Oct 2003 10:13 - 14 of 27

Short Hilton -long CWG-

experimenting long sage for a minor bounce back..

Crocodile - 20 Oct 2003 10:26 - 15 of 27

Buy bot in ICI damm!

little woman - 20 Oct 2003 10:27 - 16 of 27

Hi juless99

How are you finding CFD's?

little woman - 20 Oct 2003 11:16 - 17 of 27

Things suddenly happened very fast! About 1110 BB. & LLOY (both banks) shot up and then shot back down a couple of points! AT kicking in........

stockbunny - 20 Oct 2003 11:57 - 18 of 27

Well there's no danger of missing soemthing important happening whilst you're out making a cup of tea today is there! Watching drying paint springs to mind...going to have some lunch and hopefully some real movement will occur this PM. Lloyds and HBOS and Scot & New all rising but not much else to write home about. Enjoy your lunch people.

little woman - 20 Oct 2003 12:15 - 19 of 27

Has anyone ever purchased stuff from the lastminute.com site?

I have now 3 times over the last 3 years and won't ever do so again! The first item I purchased (tickets) they charged me twice. The second (item purchased at auction) was delivered to the wrong address (no signature) lucky I have honest people living in the same road! And the third was never delivered, and now I'm bored of recieving the "I am waiting for a reply from the suppliers and I will contact you shortly" e-mail they keep sending each time a query progress (we are now 3 month on!). So yet again I'm going to have to send all the correspondence to my credit card company and claim a refund......

Druid2 - 20 Oct 2003 12:46 - 20 of 27

Afternoon all. Have limit Longs on BARC between 519 & 510.

guysands - 20 Oct 2003 12:55 - 21 of 27

Ahhhh!

Help! Anyone out there a previous Nothing Ventured user? They've sold out to Fastrade and we've all been moved over to that site.

What a mess - this Fastrade site is crap. I'm so pissed off I can hardly type this message. NV was such a brilliant trading tool and now we've got this. What the hell are they playing at. Couldn't those numbskulls at Charles Stanley see that the NV site was much superior to there own and use that instead and just stick their Fastrade badge onto it.

Any ex-NV users please let me know what your thoughts are today.

I have started a new thread to discuss the NV/Fastrade issue.

Please post your comments there as I intend to email them all to Fastrade to let them know how dissatisfied we are. This is the link:

http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/ShowPostList?fID=1&tID=1430


or search under the epic code of NV.

The title of the thread is Nothing Ventured vs Fastrade.

Many thanks.

Guy



little woman - 20 Oct 2003 13:22 - 22 of 27

I'm getting a little bit fustrated at the moment. I want to buy some BT.A but the price just won't drop quite enough............ may set a limit buy and cross fingers...

Druid2 - 20 Oct 2003 17:20 - 23 of 27

little woman - Hope you got your BT.A - I find that placing limits can be better than looking at the screen. I had a limit buy on BARC at 514 which was triggered. When the price moved high enough for me to place a stop at evens did an OCO with stop at 514 and 519. Did a few things around the house and came back to find that the 519 had been triggered giving me 5 points. (Only a small stake though). Had I been watching the screen I may have closed for less. Does not work all the time.

little woman - 20 Oct 2003 17:30 - 24 of 27

Yes I got my price. I have always done better with limits. But it takes so much homework and it means missing the fun of choosing the moment so don't do it as often as I should!

little woman - 20 Oct 2003 17:42 - 25 of 27

Druid2, have you seen what ETL has done! Well it looks like I read that one completely wrong! (News seems to have gone quiet, so maybe it's over now?)

Crocodile - 20 Oct 2003 18:28 - 26 of 27

Some new 1 2 5 toys on the header for you to test out
D.

Druid2 - 20 Oct 2003 19:16 - 27 of 27

little woman - Yes ETL must have surprised a lot- up 10p (20% approx.) in 4 days !!! I'm still looking for the chance to top up my holding (into a nice round figure) when the price is much lower.
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