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Too many threads on the same topic (EPIC)     

little woman - 03 Nov 2003 12:32

Am I the only person getting fustrated by seing new threads all the time on the same topics.

I don't mean to be rude, but there is a search facility (I think its case sensitive) so just enter the EPIC and you can find all the threads already there. Also on the Stockwatch lists, if you click on the EPIC, not only do you get loads of info on the share, all the threads are are listed and accessible!!!

It also would be a good idea if the person who started the thread, to go back from time to time to edit and update, their first comment. I think you can e-mail money-am and they can update the heading for you (I think Ian does it) - but suggest you keep it simple - like the name of the company. If people updated their user settings, so that others could e-mail them to ask them to update the thread(it's all done through the money-am administrator, but it does mean that you can't reply directly from the e-mail - only from the the moneyam site) .

It's more interesting to read a discussion on a share over a year than a few days!

goldfinger - 03 Nov 2003 12:56 - 2 of 55

Good point little woman. Wiil transfer my detail over, sorry for the mix up.

GF.

little woman - 03 Nov 2003 13:01 - 3 of 55

Good luck GF,

Things should start getting more interesting in the Investors Room

little woman - 03 Nov 2003 18:10 - 4 of 55

ttt - just as reminder before I leave....

nmjnmj - 03 Nov 2003 18:47 - 5 of 55

Now now little woman, we all agree, but don't go waving the handbag around, O.K?

nj

little woman - 04 Nov 2003 08:47 - 6 of 55

I don't carry a handbag, but do carry a rucksack.

But it is still happening.......

Just saw the 3rd thread on MMD started. There are some good posts on the other threads which will get lost because people don't realise they are already there.

Also often things that are being asked in the new thread have already in the old thread - so anyone who's been arround a while won't post, as "been there done that, not repeating - so the threads get boring!......

goldfinger - 04 Nov 2003 10:53 - 7 of 55

Little Woman is right, there are too many threads all going on the same subject on here. Just one point though, would it be better if the authours of the original threads updated the headline now and again as some are historicaly out of sink with current events??????, can this be physically done by the original authors??, I for one havent worked this one out yet.

gf.

ajren - 04 Nov 2003 10:59 - 8 of 55

If it is not possible to delete headlines-
Can people edit all their posts in that headline i.e.remove and presss update.
Therefore,it will be a blank page .I do not know-I am merely asking the question

goldfinger - 04 Nov 2003 11:05 - 9 of 55

ajren, ive just be messing about with the headlinres and I dont think they can be deleted. Why not ask the original author if he wouldnt mind starting a new thread to reflect present circumstances and just leave a covering note on the old thread something like please divert to new thread. That way the old thread would just drift away and contributors would post on the new thread.

For research posters could still look at the old thread.

Any thoughts on that???.

GF.

ajren - 04 Nov 2003 11:08 - 10 of 55

Excellent solution

goldfinger - 04 Nov 2003 11:12 - 11 of 55

What say you Little Woman as you are the author of this thread???.

cheers GF.

little woman - 04 Nov 2003 12:01 - 12 of 55

I've added in your comments onto my comments on the top.

Is that better?

goldfinger - 04 Nov 2003 12:09 - 13 of 55

Great stuff, little woman. Ill e-mail Ian re - to the GXN thread that needs changing to Pipex.

cheers GF.

Andy - 04 Nov 2003 12:15 - 14 of 55

Goldfinger / Little Woman,

It's a shame that the system doesn't check for an epic already in existance when a new thread is started and simply reject all subsequent attempts.

Then all you need is a system to check and only allow valid epics, and it's done!

goldfinger - 04 Nov 2003 12:25 - 15 of 55

Yup I think your right there. Anyway I have e-mailed Ian and asked him to just change the name and epic of GXN.

cheers GF.

little woman - 05 Nov 2003 01:19 - 16 of 55

I think Ian may be on holiday this week. Suggest you try Felix?

goldfinger - 05 Nov 2003 01:26 - 17 of 55

Blimey little Woman I thought I was commited, what a diamond you are. Your not a female poster on adfvn on the PSION thread are you?????.

regards GF.

moderator3 - 05 Nov 2003 01:28 - 18 of 55

Done for you, Ian is on annual leave.

little woman - 05 Nov 2003 01:32 - 19 of 55

No I don't post on ADFVN. I've been out all afternoon/evening, and got in half an hour ago - I have to know whats going on before I can get to sleep, in case I don't wake up in time for market opening!

goldfinger - 05 Nov 2003 03:06 - 20 of 55

LW have a good nights sleep.

regards Gf.

ps, many thanks for the advise on the title changing, thinka lot more want a pre xmas shake up, what say you?????,

little woman - 05 Nov 2003 08:38 - 21 of 55

Thanks GF - but how come you are still up - do you not need sleep? (Or are you sleeping now?)

Haystack - 05 Nov 2003 22:34 - 22 of 55

Personally I prefer several threads on the same epic codes. There are often reasons for starting new threads with different titles as circumstances change. I have never found it a problem. If you find it a problem then you can always search for threads by epic code. I will not be one who keeps to a single thread per stock as I actually prefer the mutiplicity of threads with different variations on a theme. It really is not necessary to try and impose a regime on what is a pretty free form medium.

little woman - 06 Nov 2003 09:01 - 23 of 55

Since the threads have reduced the bb has got more interesting. At the end of the day people can do what the want, but personally I was getting to the point were I was no longer reading every thread because it was the same thing over & over & over & over. (In fact it all started when someone started the 9th Thread in 2 months - and 4 of them was by them in the same month).

little woman - 07 Nov 2003 11:19 - 24 of 55

Sorry - but ttt

Juzzle - 07 Nov 2003 12:09 - 25 of 55

In post 13 Andy suggested:

"..It's a shame that the system doesn't check for an epic already in existence when a new thread is started and simply reject all subsequent attempts...
Then all you need is a system to check and only allow valid epics, and it's done!.."


I don't think rejection is necessarily the way to go (there are occasions when a newly titled thread is appropriate - it's just the careless opening of a multiplicity of threads for no good reason, like littlewoman says, which infuriates by fragmenting discussion) - but how about an automated prompt?

Any attempt to commence a new thread with a known stock epic would trigger a prompt saying something like "Have you considered adding your message to one of the following existing threads on this topic?" A poster could still create a new thread instead if existing ones don't suit.

Obviously those who repeatedly initiate additional threads purely for reasons of ego (wanting their name in lights every day) will still do what they always do with no respect for others - but it would help the genuine contributors who do see advantages in continuity.


Andy - 07 Nov 2003 13:49 - 26 of 55

juzzle,

Fair point, and a good idea.

I do agree with Haystack's and others' point that different people's perspective of a stck may be different, and therefore thay would want to title the thread differently.

However, Little Woman is right, some people are opening many threads for the same stock, and duplicating posts.

Maybe someone should review new thresds. and delete any that apear to be duplicated of others?

There has to be way of doing this that will allow freedom of speech, but eliminate the dross!

Haystack - 07 Nov 2003 15:03 - 27 of 55

A simple reminder by the system when adding a new thread could be used. It could through up the current list of thread titles for that stock and the last date posted to them. It could offer a choice of adding to one of those or starting a new thread, which must always be available as the topic may be different.

Juzzle - 07 Nov 2003 16:04 - 28 of 55

H - i just said that ;-)
(looks like there's a serious danger of everyone agreeing!)

little woman - 07 Nov 2003 16:13 - 29 of 55

I think it's an excellent idea - the question is it possible?

goldfinger - 07 Nov 2003 16:24 - 30 of 55

I think we need to keep the thread tittles up to date thus reflecting the stocks present status in the market. I had no problems contacting admin like you suggested Little Woman in fact they seem to be a nice group of people.

Anyway going to my favourite epic - PUB.

Wish everybody a good weekend, COME ON ENGLAND, sorry if you are Welsh.

cheers GF.

Juzzle - 07 Nov 2003 16:38 - 31 of 55

I'm always sorry if people are Welsh.
Nothing to do with the game ;-)

little woman - 20 Nov 2003 08:53 - 32 of 55

I don't read many of the threads any more on this BB. There are now too many with very little history on them, and the new repeat threads seem to be back with a vengence, so I now rarely post anywhere except on the traders thread.

I see most of the posters are new people, which is nice to see, but those of us who have been arround for a long time seem to rarely post, or have moved over to the Traders BB where there are a small number of threads, which seem to be constantly getting posts.

ajren - 20 Nov 2003 10:37 - 33 of 55

Hi lw.

Too many with very little history.History is History.

The Stock Market exists in 1 second of time so - just an opinion - readers
want the very LATEST info e.g.I have just posted The mutualnet info of Nov 19
i.e.Schewo = 284,213,728 shares = 7.258 per cent of company.ALREADY that is
out of date i.e.history as the price now reflects that info.

Also,the traders tread constantly needs updating as the latest treads do not-
often - show the LATEST info so in effect they are History.

I would like readers of this post to add to it and say what they want.
rgds aj

little woman - 20 Nov 2003 10:50 - 34 of 55

Yes, but it's interesting to see past comments, against the new comments & info. Too many times the posts are about things in the past, which have already been posted.

If all a person is interested in is todays info - the traders thread is perfect for that. Why bother create a thread which only keeps going for a few days? When people continue threads that have not had any posts for a while it creates additional interest to see how things have changed between the earlier posts and the most recent posts.

ajren - 20 Nov 2003 11:02 - 35 of 55

First sentence :- I seem to be doing a lot of posting but with info that is
the very latest.

The traders tread usually does not have the Latest info so much of it is
Historical

I completely agree with your last sentence.

I hope we have a lot of Postings here on this tread so readers will then know
what people want e.g.History/The Latest rgds aj

Fundamentalist - 20 Nov 2003 11:16 - 36 of 55

Personally I am with Little Woman on this. I would prefer fewer threads with the history on them and a specific thread daily for short term info. As a longer term investor it is interesting to go back and evaluate historical news and people's reactions to it and then compare it to the effect on the share price. This helps to understand how a company's share price reacts to certain news as a guide to future performance. It is also helpful to compare shares, for example when people post is company "a" the next company "b", it is then helpful to go and read the history on company "b". I also think that each thread should be kept as specific to one share as possible, rather than several different shares being discussed on one thread, as happens, can lead to some confusion

ajren - 20 Nov 2003 11:43 - 37 of 55

Thanks for post.I hope we get many more posts.aj

Fundamentalist - 20 Nov 2003 11:49 - 38 of 55

Likewise, I am just starting to get into this a bit more (trying to find time away from work the main constraint) but personally I find a lot of the info on these bulletin boards exceptionally helpful, the only frustration sometimes being having to sift through a lot to find bits that are of personal interest. I am starting to feel more confident expressing my views and will start to post a bit more on the threads where I have an understanding.

B_ASKIN - 20 Nov 2003 11:57 - 39 of 55

Can jules99 (an experienced poster) please explain why she didn't add her RTD comment to the existing thread started by Nitefly?

ajren - 20 Nov 2003 12:07 - 40 of 55

Fundamentalist.Please do not wait until you get more confidence/or where I
have an understanding.The purpose - just an opinion - is for anyone to offer
anything:whether they are looking for information/help or offering information
rgds aj

little woman - 21 Nov 2003 09:05 - 41 of 55

B_askin - I think jules99 is a female, but jule99 put me right if I'm wrong!

fundamentalist - I agree with ajren - you don't need confidence or understanding to post. As long as you've read all the posts on a thread, and if you can't find the answer you are looking for, or the posts make you want something clarified - please feel free to post your question.

I think my problem is I'm becoming more intolerant, which may be a bit unfair, but I find it frustrating when someone asks a question which was asked only a few days before, and before that and before that etc. It is so easy to use the "All messages" to quickly review past posts to see what is there already!

Andy - 21 Nov 2003 09:41 - 42 of 55

LW,

re your last point, I agree, some questions are asked endless times, and whilst I'm sure everyone enjoys helping people that are new to either the BB, or a particular thread, it does become tiresome when the same simple question is asked many times.

Beware, some of the "new people" are in fact well known posters from another BB, and some have more than one logon id!

optomistic - 21 Nov 2003 13:34 - 43 of 55

LW re your posting 30 Nov (no.31)your comments explain the lack of your posts on this BB. I thought that you had gone away on holiday! I and many others will certainly miss your posts on what I can only describe as wide ranging interesting and informative. I do hope that you will reconsider your posting policy and return to the investors BB.

Regards
Opomistic

ajren - 21 Nov 2003 13:38 - 44 of 55

I agree.I sometimes disagree with her point of view but this is very good
as we can all learn something by looking at the same info in a different way.aj

optomistic - 21 Nov 2003 13:46 - 45 of 55


thanks ajren,
lets hope that many others will join in with their support to encourage LW 'to return'

ricardopage - 21 Nov 2003 14:07 - 46 of 55

I'm always suspicious if there are multiple threads they usually have titles like 'next stop 10p', '100 bagger', 'next stop 30p' etc etc. My guess is the creators of such threads are usually trying to offload unwanted stock.

while we're on the subject of threads, it would be nice if they had a favourites function.

ajren - 21 Nov 2003 14:15 - 47 of 55

Ref : Multiple Treads.I agree with L.W./etc.The situation with Gold is
particularly annoying.I started a GOLD tread to get all treads relating to
Gold on one site.However,this has not happened.Why?

little woman - 21 Nov 2003 14:18 - 48 of 55

Optomistic, I'm still posting on the Investors room, but restricting my posts to the Traders thread in the Investors room.

ajren - 21 Nov 2003 14:19 - 49 of 55

Why ?

ajren - 21 Nov 2003 14:24 - 50 of 55

I suggest the Traders Tread should be removed as its only purpose - in my
opinion-is to cause confusion.

little woman - 21 Nov 2003 14:42 - 51 of 55

Ajren

If you could see the traders thread in the Traders room, you'd understand why it's a good thread, but not used property by enough people in the Investors room.

If the thread was removed - there would be no reason for me to post in the Investors room, and I would go over to the traders room instead. (There are a lot of people over there, far more than in the Investors room that post all the time and never/rarely venture over to the Investors room.)

ajren - 21 Nov 2003 14:54 - 52 of 55

lw.Perhaps you are correct.

........but not used properly by people in the Investors room.Why?I suggest
they,like me,find it confusing and irrelevant.

The site - in my opinion - should only have the page about specific shares.

ajren - 21 Nov 2003 15:01 - 53 of 55

I have looked at the room again and Everything there can be posted on the
specific share site.

This is an amateur site so who is interested in/can understand Pre-Market
Futures ?I do not mean amateur in a critical way.

stockbunny - 21 Nov 2003 15:05 - 54 of 55

I have just begun a thread on ABM, I have checked the 'search' facility
and it appears there are no threads for this company, I hope that is
right as I agree wholeheartedly with the idea of keeping 'repeats' as
limited as possible.

ajren - 21 Nov 2003 15:13 - 55 of 55

Thanks for making the effort to find out.If you cannot find another the chances
are it - in my opinion - never existed.
Can you do something to try and organise all the Gold treads - I suggested
all of them on my GOLD site but no one seems to agree with me.Do you ?
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