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Traders Thread & Thoughts - Monday 15th December (SADO)
Crocodile - 14 Dec 2003 13:53
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US Futures roar ahead on news of Saddam capture Safeway, Morrison agrees a new three billion pound bid for rival Safeway to challenge for third position in the supermarket sector. This works out at 283p a share. Aggreko which rents out power generators, said its second half performance had been as expected and it anticipated its full year performance would meet forecasts. The company also announced further reorganisation and restructuring of its European and North American businesses. Psion said on Monday it expected group financial results for 2003 to be in line with management's expectations.The firm said it was generating cash and its net cash position at the end of November stood at 16.6 million pounds after paying 17.4 million to purchase additional shares in Symbian. George Wimpey The UK's biggest housebuilder said on Monday it expected group results for 2003 at the top end of market expectations, as it continued to ride a housing market boom in the UK. "We will enter 2004 with healthy order books although the US market is expected to be weaker in 2004 Inchcape said it expected profits for the year to be slightly ahead of current market consensus of 127.7 million pounds Lloyds TSB The UK's fifth-biggest bank, said on Monday that full-year trading would be in line with analysts' forecasts. The bank's asset quality remains good, Lloyds said in a statement. |
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Aggreko (Trading Statement) Inchcape (Trading Statement) George Wimpey (Trading Statement) LloydsTSB (Trading Statement)AWG PLC return of capital, 40 redeemable shares for 1 ordinary share held, ex date |
Oracle, 13.30 Dec NY Fed Manufacturing, 41.01% prev. 18.00 Dec NAHB Housing Market Index, 69.0% prev. |
Club Med, Zodiac, H&M, |
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Aggreko (Trading Statement) Inchcape (Trading Statement) George Wimpey (Trading Statement) LloydsTSB (Trading Statement)AWG PLC return of capital, 40 redeemable shares for 1 ordinary share held, ex date |
Oracle, 13.30 Dec NY Fed Manufacturing, 41.01% prev. 18.00 Dec NAHB Housing Market Index, 69.0% prev. |
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Carpetright (H1) HBOS (Trading Statement) GKN (Trading Statement) Persimmon (Trading Statement)Praxair Inc stock split ex date, 2 shares for every 1 share held 00.30 Nov RICS Housing Survey, +40 exp.. 09.30 Nov RPIX y/y, 2.6% exp.. 09.30 Nov HICP y/y, 1.5% exp. 09.30 Treasury Officials Comment on Pre-Budget Report |
Comverse Technologies, 13.30 Nov CPI m/m, 0.1% exp. 13.30 Nov Housing Starts, 1.9m exp. 13.30 Nov Building Permits 14.15 Nov Industrial Production, 0.4% exp. 14.15 Nov Capacity Utilisation, 75.3% exp |
VNU 11.00 3rd Quarter Production in Construction | ||||||
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Hanson (Trading Statement) Misys (Trading Statement) 09.30 Nov Unemployment Rate, 3.0% exp. 09.30 Oct Average Earnings 3m y/y, 3.6% exp. 09.30 Bank Of England MPC Minutes |
Bear Stearns, Circuit City, FedEx, Lehman |
Bouygues, Elior, 11.00 Nov HICP m/m, y/y, 0.1%,2.0% prev. 11.00 Oct Industrial Production m/m, y/y, 1.9%,2.6% prev. | ||||||
Ex Dividend: AWG Plc (14), Babcock International Group (1.25), Belhaven Group PLC (3.95), Blacks, Leisure Group Plc (2.6), Carlton Communications Plc (2), Carr's Milling Industries (7.5), Cropper (James) (1.9), Dawson Holdings Plc (4.3), Electrocomponents Plc (5.6), Ferraris Group Plc (3.6), Findel PLC (3.1), GET Group PLC (5.2), Gleeson (M.J.) Group Plc (28.25), Glenmorangie Plc (GMGA LN) (4.5), Glenmorangie Plc (GMGB LN) (2.25), Granada Plc (1), GWR Group Plc (2.3), International Greetings Plc (1.5), Investec PLC (28), iSOFT Group PLC (0.7), Meriden Group PLC (0.013), Mitchells & Butlers PLC (5.65), Next Fifteen Communications PLC (0.7), Northamber Plc (2), Numis Corp Plc (7.5), Punch Taverns PLC (4.4), Radstone Technology Plc (0.75), Ransom (William) & Son plc (0.5), Severn Trent PLC (17.77), Shanks Group Plc (1.9), Telford Homes PLC (1.5), Tex Holdings Plc (3.5), Total Systems Plc (1.05), Tribal Group Plc (1), United Utilities PLC (UU/ LN) (14.43), Universal, Salvage Plc (1.2) | ||||||||
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Carnival (Q4)National Express (Trading Statement) Smith & Nephew (Trading Statement) Advanced Technology bonissue of warrants ex date 09.30 Nov PSNCR, 7bn exp. 09.30 Chancellor Brown Comments on the Pre-Budget Report 09.30 Nov Retail Sales m/m, 0.1% exp. 09.30 Nov Preliminary M4 Money Supply y/y, 6.7% exp. 09.30 Nov CML, BBA & BSA Lending |
US: Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley 13.30 Initial Jobless Claims (w/e 13/12) 15.00 Nov Leading Indicators, 0.3% exp. 17.00 Dec Philly Fed, 25.90 prev. |
Europe: Infogrammes, Cap Gemini, Nordex 08.00 Dec German IFO Expectations, 108.7 prev. 11.00 3rd Quarter Labour Costs | ||||||
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Wilson Bowden (Trading Statement) 09.30 Bank of England Quarterly Bulletin Released 09.30 Nov Car Production 3m/3m FTSE Index changes effective after the close of business |
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Europe: Kaufman & Broad 07:50 French HICP final prev. 11.00 Oct Trade Balance |
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| Trading Thoughts For The Week Ahead - Sunday 14th November |
Its the last full week of trading before Christmas and the last 2 banks, Llyods & HBOS provide updates Earnings reports from several U.S. investment banks including Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs could influence shares in European banks such as Credit Suisse & Deutsche Bank Wimpey , Persimmon and Wilson Bowden release have trading updates. Housebuilders have, on the whole, been selling more homes at higher unit prices this year. That should imply positive announcements from this trio. It will be interesting to see what comments are made about the Barker Review of Housing Supply, which reckoned that 39,000 new homes need to be built each year just to keep up with the UK's population. The review also blamed rising house prices on developers in the southeast sitting on land, something the housebuilders may be keen to refute.Monday Following upbeat trading statements from othe banks it would not be surprising to see LLoyds have a rise especially if the markets are positive following the news of the capture of Saddam Hussein. The trading update on Monday should hopefully give reassurance from Lloyds TSB that it does not plan a dividend cut. George Wimpey is expected to confirm that sales volumes and margins are set to meet or beat market forecasts. Oracle (US), an earnings report from the world's second-biggest software company could affect the share price of European software stocks U.S. economic releases in focus will be the New York Federal Reserve manufacturing survey on MondayTuesday Carpetright the carpet retailer warned last October that sales in the 22 weeks to 1 May were down by 0.8%. Additionally, Carpetright said disappointing summer sales reduced like-for-like sales by 1.5%. Nevertheless, Carpetright assured that overall profitability would be in line with expectations. Hmmmm Persimmon trading update. HBOS Investors will look for continued revenue growth and positive comments on credit quality GKN give an important updaye on the health of the engineering sector after saying in August it was on track to hit forecasts for full-year Persimmon should be upbeat about the outlook for 2004 as volume expansion is expected to compensate for lower prices. Wednesday Bank of England releases minutes from its December interest rate meeting Baggeridge Brick is expected to turn in a solid performance when it reports full-year results. Analysts are looking for the group to post a 75% increase in pre-tax profits to 5.6m, with earnings per share of 9.3p. London Clubs International casino operator reports interims. The owner of the Sportsman and 50 St James' casinos is expected to post improved results on the back of its upbeat AGM statement. The company added that it was well positioned to operate in the post deregulation environment, though just exactly when the Draft Gambling Bill will be introduced is uncertain. Philadelphia Fed survey and weekly jobless claimsThursday Carnival , Analysts say cruise ship operator is likely to turn in a 3.9% fall in pre-tax profits to 818m when it reports full-year results Friday The euro trading near lifetime highs around $1.2250 makes exports to the United States more expensive and puts pressure on profit margins at company's with dollar earnings like luxury goods group Gucci . But Gucci, majority owned by France's Pinault Printemps Redoute , is expected to cheer investors with third-quarter results on Friday if it backs up perceptions of growing global demand. Thoughts A very interesting chart this week showing how the FTSE has fallen through support while the DOW continues to test resistance before falling back. Certainly selling of the DOW at resistance would have been very lucrative over the last few months!. It also shows how well over the last 6 months the FTSE & DOW tracked each other until the last 2 weeks. Perhaps the UK institutions have decided the markets have risen enough. Looking towards next week I expect the markets to rise on the news of the capture of Saddam Hussein before a sharp fall on the DOW as computer selling kicks in, As always I look forward to your thoughts and comments on the week ahead! David (Crocodile) David@SnappyTrader.com www.SnappyTrader.comAll the above comments are purely a personal opinion and no investment advice is intended. Please do your own research. |
Crocodile - 14 Dec 2003 13:55 - 3 of 61
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Headlines Sunday 14th December An investigation into the UK's telecommunications industry could result in cheaper telephone, mobile and Internet calls, it has been claimed. The Times. |
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SUNDAY TIMES Scotland: HBOS to review Ryder Cup deal Morrison offers cash and shares Ryanair Holdings Germans to enter no-frills air market Capital Radio aims to regain No 1 spot BSkyB Crunch time for football TV rights Safeway Morrison offers cash and shares Royal and Sun Alliance poised to sell 600m UK life business Yeoman on guard against further losses Russian taxman sets sights on BP partners Independent News and Media sell-offs send share price soaring Manchester United Crunch time for football TV rights Bernerd goes for Chelsfield Leeds chairman to resign ICAP Trinity Mirror Working space MyTravel Group, Ryanair Holdings TUI takes on budget airlines |
We are not going bust, says MyTravel chief Forth Ports Victoria Masterson: On the waterfront easyJet 'Stansted could kill UK aviation' William Lewis: Morrison, the next move on the board is yours Chorion Takeover tussle upsets Toy Town British Airways TUI takes on budget airlines Sharewatch: HBOS Agenda: William Lewis: Morrison, the next move on the board is yours LastMinute.com Forth Ports Charles Hammond's working day Sharewatch: BT Group British Airways: 'Stansted could kill UK aviation' Spencer's good turn ICAP Directors' Deals: Mirror boss reflects on share buys |
| RAC is on course to deliver dividend* growth of between 5 and 6% for the next couple of years. If it plods on and makes a habit of delivering inflation busting increases of this sort in future, the share price will flourish. Since the dividend yield* is a chunky 4.6% at present, todays starting price is a more than reasonable one. Buy NHPs management is doing great things. But a local authority funding issue means the shares hold risk that is out of kilter with the potential rewards. Avoid. Competition in the car hire business is always intense but never more so than when the industry is in the doldrums and the only scope for growth is by snatching market share from rival companies. This is bad news for Avis, the Sunday Times reckons, so it should be avoided. | |
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SUNDAY TELEGRAPH Safeway war nears end GlaxoSmithKline Garnier to scoop up to 5.7m a year BAE Systems Portillo tries for chair Canary Wharf Reichmann bid backed WH Smith dividend risk Chorion Hands off Noddy! |
A safe landing for MyTravel? Group New boss in Boots M&S: all change at HQ BT pins its hopes on IT deals Matalan Coming right in the end MyTravel down to last resort |
| Music-to-videos retailer HMV has cheered investors with a 49% rise in its share price since January but the stock may well have peaked. The group admitted that sales had been hit in the second quarter by the hot summer with like-for-like sales up just 0.3% in the 21 weeks to September 20. Christmas will be crucial and HMV chief executive Alan Giles is confident of a good festive trading period with major DVD releases including Johnny Depp's latest vehicle Pirates of the Caribbean. But HMV is coming under increasing pressure from supermarket rivals offering big discounts on the most popular CDs and DVDs. Sell at 170.75p. Chemring, the niche defence manufacturer, is best placed to escape the gloom surrounding the stocks of armaments makers following publication of the Government's white paper on defence last week. The group has been boosted by sales of its Kilgore flares that combat heat-seeking missiles and were widely used in Iraq. The group is now poised for further opportunities when the US government considers legislation that would force commercial airliners to be fitted with missile protection systems. Buy at 385.5p. | |
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OBSERVER Sanctuary scores with Kelly Morrison and Safeway to clinch 3bn deal MyTravel Group Long haul to find the sunshine Desmond in fresh cull at the National Express MoD faces budget clash over aircraft carriers BAE Systems GlaxoSmithKline Garnier gives up perks to head off fat-cat row |
Bad to worse at WH Smith BSkyB Play on: Premiership can't afford full Monti BP Cheapside National Express Now Hill starts an Express rescue |
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SUNDAY MAIL High Street retailer WH Smith will kick off the New Year with a dramatic profits warning - and the disclosure of hundreds of job losses at head office, including senior figures. |
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INDEPENDENT Lloyds under pressure over 2bn cash pile The Week Ahead: HBOS climbs the property ladder Sainsbury, William Morrison Never mind sleigh bells. Britain's retailers are listening for the sound of tills ringing There were no happy landings after Monti got hold of MyTravel |
WH Smith, MKS Never mind sleigh bells. Britain's retailers are listening for the sound of tills ringing GUS, Boots Never mind sleigh bells. Britain's retailers are listening for the sound of tills ringing Never mind sleigh bells. Britain's retailers are listening for the sound of tills ringing Boots, Tesco Never mind sleigh bells. Britain's retailers are listening for the sound of tills ringing |
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SCOTLAND ON SUNDAY Noble Investments intentions towards funding games Isis tipped to buy Abbey National fund management business BP set to pull out of Safeway joint venture Bethel grabs Babcock Post |
J Beattie Financial loses MD to rival Bell Pottinger HBOS Wherever has the swan girl flown? |
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SUNDAY EXPRESS SStocks of high street retailers have suffered recently as concerns over consumer debt and higher interest results impact on consumer spend, but electrical goods vendor Dixons still looks undervalued. Analysts say the share price has been discounted too heavily with underlying data showing a healthy cushion should Christmas trading prove disappointing. Buy at 132p. Prospects of an upswing in shares of mm02, look good with City speculation of consolidation in the mobile communications sector continuing to persist. mm02, which was reported to be a target of Japanese mobile giant DoCoMo a month ago, is also buoyed by strong subscriber growth and trading in Germany. Analysts are upbeat on news that debt and distribution policies are being considered. Buy at 78.75p. Shares in industrial property group Workspace should have further to go, lifted by better-than-expected interim results last month. Workspace reported pre-tax profits of 3.4 million for the six months to September 30 - more than double what it reaped at the same stage last year. With analysts setting a target price of 1475p, the stock is a speculative buy at 1425p. |
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INVESTORS CHRONICLE Tips: Buy United Business Media (UBM.L) at 503p - Workspace (WKP.L) at 14.25 - Honeycombe Leisure (HCL.L) at 71p - OMG (OMG.L) at 22p - Ramco (ROS.L) at 308p. Sell Peacock Group (PEA.L) at 211p.Updates: Buy Alliance & Leicester (AL.L), Finsbury Food (FIF.L) and Camec. Sell Eurotunnel (ETL.L) and WH Smith (SMWH.L).Shares that are making a Great Comeback: Ben Bailey (BBC.L) - Celsis (CEL.L) - Character Group (CCT.L) - Hitachi Capital (HCU.L) - Hornby (HRN.L) - Oxus Mining (OXS.L) - Volex (VLX.L).Company Results: Sell Phytopharm (PYM.L) Buy Creston (CRE.L) and David S Smith (SMDS.L). |
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SHARES MAGAZINE Plays of the Week: Buy Clarity Commerce Solutions (CCS.L) at 71.5p - The Wireless Group (TWG.L) at 88.5p - Cambrian Mining (CBM.L) at 50p - Zytronic (ZYT.L) at 68p - SCi Entertainment (SEG.L) at 119.5p.Updates: Buy Dyson Group (DYS.L), Jubilee Platinum (JLP.L) and CMS Webview (CWV.L). Hold Innovation Group (TIG.L).Public Finance Initiative is Money in the Bank: Interserve (IRV.L) - iSoft (IOT.L) - Serco (SRP.L) - Jarvis (JRVS.L) - WS Atkins (ATK.L) - Carillion (CLLN.L) - John Laing (LNGO.L). |
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midknight
- 14 Dec 2003 15:31
- 4 of 61
The festive season plays tricks on all of us! Cheers.
Melnibone - 14 Dec 2003 16:13 - 5 of 61
I wonder how much the initial mark-up will be on Monday
morning?
I can't imagine there being many sellers to start
with. The weaker Bears who held shorts open for the weekend
will help to fuel the rise as they cover.
There are going to be a lot of people looking to short this
bounce, myself included, so when it starts to topple I wouldn't
be surprised to see the trend supports give way.
As it also the last week of full trading, would I be correct in
saying that this week will be when some Funds and Institutions will be
looking to lock in some year end profits as well as selling some
underperformers for Tax reasons?
If so, they'll wait for the higher prices and then help to fuel
the decline along with the normal traders who are taking long profits
and reversing into short positions.
Melnibone.
little woman
- 14 Dec 2003 19:06
- 6 of 61
I think we should be a lot more positive about the future. With the news from Iraq, the people there should finally be able to rebuild thier country and move on, without any fear that Saddam may reappear. (And hopefully be too busy to be terrorists anymore!) Plus with most of the money for rebuilding which will be awarded to US companies who will inturn contract the work to UK companies (as the US companies will be too scared to actually go to Iraq to do the work!) and UK companies should do very nicely out of it - thank you very much!
Melnibone - I'm afraid you will not be correct in saying that "this week will be when some Funds and Institutions will be looking to lock in some year end profits as well as selling some underperformers for Tax reasons?" - as all companies, funds & institutions paid Tax accordinging to the Govt/IR tax year and therefore the deadline is 5th April 2004 which is the tax year end!
Jumpin
- 14 Dec 2003 22:53
- 7 of 61
ThePlayboy
- 15 Dec 2003 07:17
- 8 of 61
Key DOW Levels for 12/15
UP Above 10,075
DN Below 9,900
Continued Uptrend
Dow continues steady push higher, ends day with 34 point gain.
From prior commentary, "...The index continues to push higher within the wide, upward-sloping range...Look for the index to continue higher within the range for tomorrow's market..."
The Dow opened the session lower this morning, but got a v-bottom reversal off the lows that sparked a steady rise the remainder of the session, seen in the 15 Minute Chart. The Dow closed above the 10,000 mark for the second straight session and continues to close in on the upper boundary of the wide, upward-sloping trading range, seen in the 60 Minute Chart.
Look for the Dow to continue higher toward the upper boundary of the range until either a break or bounce of the upper line is seen. That is where the decision will be made; An upside break through the upper boundary of the range at 10,075 will likely spark an even greater advance, while a downside reversal off the upper line will mark the beginning of a likely decline back toward the lower boundary of the range. A downside break through 10,000 will likely fuel such a move.
Short Term Dow
Short term, the Dow has formed a clear trend line beneath the lows of the 1 Minute Chart. A downside break of the line at 10,040 will make for weakness tomorrow morning. Otherwise, look for further strength above the line in the short term.
Medium Term Dow
In the medium term, we entered the market Long at 9,971 and are still in the position. We will move stops up to 10,000 for tomorrow's market to lock in some profit on a pullback. We will stay Long above 10,075, but will wait for Shorts until 9,900 is crossed to the downside, using 20 point stops.
NASDAQ & S&P
The NASDAQ and S&P trended slowly higher off the day's lows, ending the session at the day's highs. Look for further strength Monday, as each index has formed consolidations at the highs. *
Summary
The Dow moved higher off the day's lows, pushing and holding back above the 10,000. The index will likely continue trending higher toward the upper boundary of the wide, sloping range. A break or bounce at the upper boundary will be key.
MONDAY FTSE PP
R2 4385
R1 4366
PP 4348
S1 4329
S2 4311
Fri close on R2 after gaining2.8pts in the auction!
WEEKLY FTSE PP
R2 4451
R1 4399
PP 4356
S1 4304
S2 4261
Close was below the weekly pp!
For next week still in the trading range, uptrend still intact at 4430 with 4280 the next level! Uptrend seems to be targeting 4450 which is weekly R2 if the 83%(not my fig) chance of the Xmas rally begins! 2 day ftse chart in an uptrend off Thu low, brk of uptrend at 4335, continuation of trend targeting 4380 with a clear brk of Fri res at 4365 imho!
(Written Fri/All bets off:)
Cantors SL hitfor remainder 20% of ftse short, so only small pos thank god!
So the lucky longs close for a profit, short run for cover and the mugs chase, will be an interesting morning!
Druid2
- 15 Dec 2003 07:32
- 9 of 61
ThePlayboy
- 15 Dec 2003 07:40
- 10 of 61
Crocodile - 15 Dec 2003 07:43 - 11 of 61
Douggie - 15 Dec 2003 07:52 - 12 of 61
Druid2
- 15 Dec 2003 07:55
- 13 of 61
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 08:20 - 14 of 61
I'm talking about the US for end of year closing
and tax losses, where the US
markets go then the UK will follow.
When we are talking finance then I'm afraid that
the UK is just one of the States of the USA.
Melnibone.
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 08:24 - 15 of 61
Who is going to buy at a premium for a short
lived sentiment bounce?
Volume doesn't seem to be overly high to me,
and we don't seem to want to go above 4400.
I still think that people are waiting to sell,
not buy.
Melnibone.
little woman
- 15 Dec 2003 08:30
- 16 of 61
little woman
- 15 Dec 2003 08:35
- 17 of 61
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 08:49 - 18 of 61
I hope I'm not coming across as a pessimist here,
I'm not trying to argue with you, just putting
my view across.:-)
I agree, it is irksome to just follow another country
like a little lapdog, but we must face facts.
Our GDP isn't in the same league as the USA.
Doesn't California on its own come somewhere near
our financial status? Don't quote me on it, but I
think that it is one of the world's biggest economies
in it's own right and as it is just one state then
where does the UK stand in relation to the USA as a whole?
We've got to remember that we're talking money, not
politics and national pride.
I agree that it is annoying, but we have to accept it
and make our financial decisions on that basis.
Melnibone.
little woman
- 15 Dec 2003 08:58
- 19 of 61
A lot of the people out there that had been predicting a fall in the market since August, seem to have recently changed their view and become more positive. I've decided I prefer the positive! (Life is too depressing otherwise)
I agree that we are talking money, but I think the Bulls are currently making more money than the Bears, and although the bears every so often make a inroad back, I don't think overall they are not suceeding.
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 09:09 - 20 of 61
Stay positive, life is far more important than boring
old money.
I bet LLOY is bringing a smile to your face this morning.:-))
Melnibone.
little woman
- 15 Dec 2003 09:26
- 21 of 61
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 09:30 - 22 of 61
for every 1 point on the S@P, then the FTSE is now
on par with the S@P future which is around 1086.
Where we go now will depend on whether the US takes
the considerable gap open as profits, or pushes on
in a Saddam euphoria, ignoring the fact that the economics,
(low interest rates, falling dollar, increasing negative
balance of payments), haven't actually changed.
Edit: Doh! just had to edit this post. I was thinking of
the 10 point rise on the S@P and put 10 points rise for the
FTSE for 1 point rise on the S@P.
Should of course be 4 points rise on the FTSE for 1 on the S@P.
Teach me to wake up and engage brain before posting.
Melnibone.
little woman
- 15 Dec 2003 09:32
- 23 of 61
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 09:39 - 24 of 61
MKS and MTN dropping on a good day and the one's
I've been following down, SBRY, waiting to buy
at the bottom of the trend channel are going back
up!
Don't you just love these markets.
Melnibone.
little woman
- 15 Dec 2003 09:41
- 25 of 61
little woman
- 15 Dec 2003 09:57
- 26 of 61
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 10:46 - 27 of 61
It's just took me 25 minutes to get back and edit an earlier
post where I put the wrong figure in, (4 points rise on the
FTSE for every one on the S@P instead of the 10 points that
I put).
Melnibone.
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 11:53 - 28 of 61
I'd redress the balance and find a positive spin for
a change.
The S@P has been bumping up against the 1074 technical
resistance level.
This Saddam bounce has took it 10 points above that, so
with some luck on the Bulls side, this level may now
act as support when it drops back to test it.
This will limit the FTSE in how far it drops if the above
scenario plays out. Haven't got a crystal ball so I'll
wait and see the outcome with you all.
Time to get some stuff done, see you all when the US opens.
All to play for, depends what the US does, as usual.
Melnibone.
little woman
- 15 Dec 2003 12:13
- 29 of 61
All the other markets seem to be doing well.
LLOY hit 4.20 before dropping back slightly!
ThePlayboy
- 15 Dec 2003 12:24
- 30 of 61
little woman
- 15 Dec 2003 12:30
- 31 of 61
little woman
- 15 Dec 2003 13:03
- 32 of 61
Share price initially dropped, but spread is no longer outrageous, so price going up.
little woman
- 15 Dec 2003 13:05
- 33 of 61
Fundamentalist
- 15 Dec 2003 13:27
- 34 of 61
stockbunny
- 15 Dec 2003 13:37
- 35 of 61
increasing their share holding percentage - Are the big financials
putting more money into the stock market currently or is this
just a coincidence? Anyone else found others also getting further
barclays interest??
Aside of that - GO HBOS & LLOY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
little woman
- 15 Dec 2003 14:23
- 36 of 61
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 14:58 - 37 of 61
US is behaving sensibly and is taking back some of the
gap open. If it had carried on zooming up this would have
set it up for an even bigger fall.
This has brought the FTSE back to R1 from this morning's R2.
What would be good for the Bulls was if all the markets took
back the gap open, held on supports and then started to move
back up.
Will be interesting to see what happens if we hit last Fridays
close in US and UK. That will be the critical point for the rest of this
weeks direction in my opinion.
Melnibone
stockbunny
- 15 Dec 2003 15:07
- 38 of 61
it really is worth it -475 at least!! HBOS is different, but I am
still looking for way above the current level - like 810p
GAA is being pegged back every time it gains ground, RTR is similiar
and seems to be in for negative territory today.
Good Luck melnibone, Zarif & others playing the Dow!!
stockbunny
- 15 Dec 2003 15:40
- 39 of 61
apple - 15 Dec 2003 15:41 - 40 of 61
I would like to know how the big buyers found out over the last couple of weeks before us small sharehoders.
Up again today by 4.7%
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 15:42 - 41 of 61
two hours of the day(when the US is open), draw towards
the close. Meanwhile the S@P is trying to level out.
Could even see a flat finish at the 4347 area.
Melnibone
stockbunny
- 15 Dec 2003 15:49
- 42 of 61
the Saddam euphoria (and if that's not spelt right phooey)
would be worth more of a prolonged FTSE hike - if it only ends
up a 6 hour wonder...well...pass me the wine bottle!!
Fundamentalist
- 15 Dec 2003 15:55
- 43 of 61
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 15:57 - 44 of 61
and is now down 6%, whilst MKS is slowly clawing back
its losses as the FTSE drifts lower.
I wonder if all you MKS Bulls have got MKS right?
You are certainly doing OK on LLOY.
Melnibone.
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 16:02 - 45 of 61
What do we do tomorrow if the S@P ends flat
but above the 1074/1075 level?
Decisions, decisions. Lol.
Melnibone.
little woman
- 15 Dec 2003 16:02
- 46 of 61
little woman
- 15 Dec 2003 16:03
- 47 of 61
stockbunny
- 15 Dec 2003 16:18
- 48 of 61
I'm off, good luck to everyone!!!
little woman
- 15 Dec 2003 16:38
- 49 of 61
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 16:42 - 50 of 61
took off it would have set it up for a big fall.
I was going to post a 5 day chart here, but apparently
you now have to pay to use the charts on this site, or so
the pop-up is telling me.
Anyway, take a look at the 5 day chart at the top of this thread.
We've had a double bottom on Thursday and Friday and are trying
to move away from them.
As I said before, if the S@P stays above the 1074/1075 level, then these
double bottoms will give a good support area.
Seeing that you now have to pay to use the charts, can anyone point
me to a link where it will show me how to post a chart from another site,
the same as zarif does on the Dow thread?
Melnibone.
little woman
- 15 Dec 2003 16:44
- 51 of 61
ThePlayboy
- 15 Dec 2003 16:44
- 52 of 61
R2 4414
R1 4381
PP 4364
S1 4331
S2 4315
Close was on Mon pp after loosing 6.1 pts in the auction! 2 day ftse chart still just in uptrend, third higher low, 4345 brk down for continued weakness, still in the uptrend channel (just) ftm, Dj weak into close so I now go for up this evening IMHO, will see!
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 16:47 - 53 of 61
me now that I can't access the Stockwatch without paying.
Some kind of screw-up by the looks of things.
It'll be stopping me posting next!
Oi! I heard that! Less of the cheers please.
Melnibone.
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 16:50 - 54 of 61
Melnibone.
Douggie - 15 Dec 2003 16:51 - 55 of 61
Maggot
- 15 Dec 2003 17:46
- 56 of 61
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 18:15 - 57 of 61
Melnibone.
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 18:38 - 58 of 61
The following chart is what I was trying to say, and looking
at TP's last post TP is seeing the same thing.
The last red candle seems to be missing for some reason, so
you'll have to imagine it. :-)
You can clearly see the double bottom on Wed/Thur followed
by a trend channel up.
You can near enough stick a ruler along the tops and the bottoms.
If TP is correct for a strong US finish then the pattern has
a good chance of repeating tomorrow.
If the FTSE had roared off today it would have broken the pattern
and put everyones plans in disarray.
It would have most certainly precipitated a steep decline
and with the momentum that it would have gathered it would have
likely dropped through the main 9 month trend channel.
Melnibone.
ThePlayboy
- 15 Dec 2003 20:58
- 59 of 61
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 21:33 - 60 of 61
Hopefully, with the warnings we gave today, not too many
MAM traders went long with that ridiculous euphoria and
ended up getting caught. I couldn't believe what I was reading
on some sites, it was like 1999/2000 all over again.
People seem to have short memories, I thought we were meant to
wait for the next generation to repeat it all again. :-)
Melnibone.
Melnibone - 15 Dec 2003 21:57 - 61 of 61
worst, at least the FTSE never went stupid like the US
and Asian markets.
Should end up back where we were last Wednesday.
Supports I'm looking at tomorrow are:
4315 S2
4310 Bottom of trend channel
4280/4300 Spikes lower
4200 Next heavy support area if the trend channel breaks.
What would be nice, is a spike lower to 4280 along with
the S@P going to 1059. A holding of support here with
follow through up days on Wed/Thu.
Bet I don't get it though. ;-)
Melnibone.
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