St. Patrick's day has gone to my head! One Bushmills too many!!!

I know, I know, Ive heard it all before, football stocks only for the true & genuine fans!

Today I fancied a gamble on the turnaround in fortunes of once struggling Millwall F.C.

Millwall last night booked their place in a lucrative FA Cup semi final at Old Trafford against Sunderland FC, and the chance to go to Cardiff for an FA Cup final and guaranteed UEFA Cup Football next season.

On top of this Millwall's playing revolution under Dennis Wise & Ray Wilkins has taken the club into the play-off positions for a possible place in the Premiership & all the associated increased revenue that would go with that.

All ifs & buts, but a few definitely maybe's. Football is a funny old game, and this stock is not for widows & orphans as they say.

Take a look tho! It can't do any harm to look?

I agree it is worth a look.Incidentally,the volume yesterday was 55,000,000.
rgds aj

All moving averages have turned positive, and if the team makes the play-offs extra revenue will be generated on top of the cup semi final.

Premiership football can mean an extra 20million in revenue, not to mention what a UEFA Cup place would mean.

This is a TOTAL gamble on the fortunes of the football team, but the way the FA Cup has managed to pair 2 first division teams in one semi and Arsenal and Man Utd in the other, guarantees UEFA Cup football to either Millwall or Sunderland FC.

I'm not for one minute trying to ramp this one. I simply had to tell someone of my madness!

This is a tiddly tiddler, but I'm going to play with it for a while!

You can get 500,000 of these for just over a grand.

Why do you say mad ?

I think it is very sane.Your downside is minimal.
rgds aj

Thanks Ajren, you have rescued me from ridicule, and you're absolutely right the downside from here when you look at a 3year chart is minimal.

There is always the potential for some sort of capital re-organisation/consolidation to give the share a more tradeable price, but the spreads seem very tight even down at these levels.

I tend to hold the majority of my portfolio in FTSE 350 stocks, so shares such as these give me some excitement.

I think you have to have that mix, if you want to both preserve capital and have the potential to make serious gains in wealth.

Good FTSE 250 growth stocks, good FTSE 100 divi payers, and a few micro-cap penny shares with the potential to double/treble.

All IMHO. It works for me.

Over 115million shares traded today, just under 300,000 pounds worth.

Looks like I'm not the only one looking at this stock now.

10,759,949 buys vs 93,425,034 sells. why the lift in price ?

its the m.m playing about batty hill

That'll teach me to get my facts right!

Well played batty hill!

I'm in this one for a bit of fun, and if Millwall make a little bit of history for themselves in the process good luck to them!

TSQ

Someone mentioned this share on my under .38p shares sought.
rgds aj

In case anyone is interested :-

Real Madrid lost 2/3 to Zarrogoza in the final of the Kings cup last night.
Beckam and Roberto Carlos scored.Zidane and Raul played badly.
rgds aj

Got to be interested in this if you are a gambler. It all boils down to '90 minutes' of football to get to the cup final and a 1m price money for being runners up with added bonus of playing in Europe. There is also still a chance to get to the play-offs and the premeirship (bonus of 20million.) Got to be worth a couple of hundred quit just for a punt.

Interesting, looking at the volume of shares traded since 27 Feb it goes like this.
total buy total sell average price
27Feb 1.2m 10.3m 0.14p
1Mar 0.3m 73.1m 0.15p
2mar 1.2m 80.1m 0.15p
3mar 0 23.8m 0.15p
4mar 0.5m 12.4m 0.15p
5mar 0.3m 82.1m 0.17p
8mar 1.4m 33.7m 0.17p
9mar 2.2m 59.3m 0.18p
10mar 0.7m 33.2m 0.18p
11mar 0.9m 47.6m 0.18p
12mar 1.4m 10.6m 0.18p
15mar 6.2m 76.9m 0.19p
16mar 1.6m 96m 0.19p
17mar 10.7m 93.4m 0.23p

Seem to be going the same today. Share price steady and rising with large sells
Is there somebody buying up shares in the club? Or what?

slmchow,

It is one for the gamblers among us. Interestingly though, if you look at the last set of results and in particular the Chairman's remarks, it gives some kind of a flavour of his fiscal prudence.

It would appear his business sense is untouched by football emotion, and perhaps a determination exists to turn the business side around. Player sales would occur before the club would be allowed to plunge into major debt.

Millwall will never be the Man Utd of the south, but a more successful, well managed team will bring in more supporters, and the Cup run will also bring people back.

Barcelona at the New Den in the Uefa Cup next season eh????

I would not call it a gamble.

I always buy shares as a well calculated risk.No one - in theory,and often in
practice - is against us.Gambling means the odds are stacked against us from the
start e.g.; bookmakers,casinos.

Buying Millwall is an extremely intelligent,finely calculated risk as the
downside is negligible and the upside huge.
rgds aj

ps I have not bought shares lol

Ahhhh ajren!

You are the crafty trickster offloading millions upon millions of these!!! All the while I'm buying half million chunks because I don't fancy "Best Mate" in the big race at Cheltenham!

I'll have a seat on the board soon!!!

LOL!

TSQ.

thestatusquo

Anything can happen- all I know is that it is going to be an exciting couple of months for sure. Some of the guys at work has got in on this as well.

And yes, good stadium and sound management. Roll on April 4 !!!

the share price has steadily risen from 0.231p to between 0234 and 0.236

From acharting point of view, rising 50 day movinga average crossed rising 200day at start of March giving a strong buy signal.

It remains to be seen how much steam this can pick up in the run in to the FA Cup semi in a couple of weeks.

Apprently Millwall will make about 2m by being in the semi-final.

30000 tkts @ average price 40 = 1.2m.
semi-final fees and Sky TV money should make it up to 2m.

There has certainly been a sharp re-rating of the companys chances, as the chart shows.

Next fortnight will be very interesting, particularly if the form of the cup run pushes the club further up Division 1 into play-offs.

The extra televised play-offs would also provide a few quid??

Good news that Leeds Utd has been sorted.

It's ironic that this Division 1 club is on a much more sound financial footing. They might be playing better than Leeds as well!!

I'm sure todays great result wont harm the share price.

Not 'alf mate!

4-1 against West Ham. Millwall up to 7th with games in hand to take them to Premiership play-offs.

Important couple of weeks for club and shares.

just spent three and a half thousand on mill wall and the m.m put it down as a sell not very happy

The MM didnt put it as a sale. When the price comes through to MoneyAM the software tries to guess if it was a buy or sell depending on the price at the time the trade gets reported.

You can never take the buy/sell data at face value. And remember, for every buyer there is a seller and for every seller a buyer.

mine came up as a sale also, but I was just glad to get it at 0.25p, come on Millwall!!! I shall be cheering away in the FA cup semi-final

Please see my post on 5,000 tread
rgds aj

Another uptick this morning after an excellent result. If this form continues that 20million premiership pot could beckon.

It's tantalising to think that 90minutes football in the FA Cup semi can also have such a huge influence on the clubs finances.

Anyone any idea how much that UEFA Cup place would be worth? Wise & Wilkins have given this team a new hope of better times.

Contract talks to be opened with Dennis Wise and Ray Wilkins in the summer. Statement from Chairman says.

Ray Wilkins tells Skysports of goal of Premiership football next season.

All buys showing as sells, you can buy at 0.2525p. They have got wimbledon midweek away and should win to put them in the play offs (third place, one behind the automatic slot). A win against sunderland will give them europe, to give them europe, probably going to get premiership as well. What would Man City, Leeds, Spurs give for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many teams go up from the 1st Division to the premiership? How many go into the play offs?

Two automatically promoted, four qualify for the playoffs, of which one will eventually be promoted.

Rgds

PTH

ptholden will they win tonight if so will the price go up tomorrow.

ptholden - thanks for the info, the top two spots already look taken, but it's either Sunderland or Millwall for both the FA cup final & the promotion.

Come on Millwall, can't watch the match as it will be about 3.45am here when they kick off, but I'll be cheering in my sleep and wishing all holders goodluck

tokyo

7840

I am reading the thread out of interest, but otherwise have no interest if you see what I mean. I think football shares are a liitle risky to say the least: Two years ago who would have thought that all Leeds Utd shareholders would lose all of their investments.

Will Millwall win tonight? Well, yes they should beat Wimbledon, but if I could predict football results I would be rich. After their last League victory, the SP ticked up a fraction, but there is a long way to go yet before the playoffs, so win or lose it won't settle anything.

Personally, I think Millwall will lose to S'land in the FA Cup Semi. Rememeber Bob Stokoe died this year and S'land's players are battling in his memory. The FA Cup has some strange history and Sunderland winning in the year of their former managers demise, would be typical of the 'Cup'

I wish you all good luck.

Rgds

PTH

A hard fought 1-0 win last night moves Millwall to 5th.

Now Walsall away on Saturday.

Wimbledon 0-1 Millwall
Cahill (left) scored the game's only goal
Millwall's Tim Cahill mounted further misery on Wimbledon as his sole strike cemented the Dons' position at the bottom of Division One.

Wimbledon are now 15 points behind second-bottom Bradford City, while the Lions are eight points off the top.

The home side were boosted by the return of Wayne Gray fron a knee injury but were devoid of ideas throughout.

And their margin of defeat could have been wider but Danny Dichio's late goal was ruled out, with Cahill offside.

Warren Barton almost sealed an undeserved point for Wimbledon in the last minute of normal time but his 30-yard strike was comfortably saved by Andy Marshall.

The win stretched Millwall's superb run under coach and former Wimbledon star Dennis Wise.

They have now lost just once in their last 15 games.


Millwall certainly have an excellent winning streak at the moment, checked their previous games against Sunderland and they won both of those too!!!!

Lets hope this streak continues!!

good luck to all Millwall holders

Great bit of fun!

Are you in Tokyo, Tokyo?

TSQ

Yes, so watching the FA semi cup final is gonna be fun, have to try and find a pub open

Looks like the MMs have rogered us again eh Ed? Ooops

Can someone tell me if the company owns the New Den stadium and land that it sits on. If so what is the approx value of that?

around 450,000,000 shares just sold way below the bid price, something going on?

Tokyo

This is one of the reason why chairman sold 250,000,000 (see RNS news) but there is still 200,000,000 to account for???
The team just needs to keep on winning. So roll on!! Walsall this afternoon

just bought in for a little gamble too...come on the millwall !

Last trading day to have a punt on MWH

90 minutes from Europe starts ticking at 1300 on Sunday

Why do I get the feeling we are going to get clobbered by the MM's !!!!!!

We are always at the mm's mercy
That is why they are the one's smoking the big cigars.
We just enjoy the crumbs if we are not too greedy

Any idea on price Monday if they win ?

mon 0.26 tue o.27 wen thur fri 0.30

Where are all the Millwall supporters ????? - on the win bus coming home !!!!!

What is the chance of a rich billionaire buying the club as they are already in the UEFA Cup next year? lwith the chance of of getting to the premiership still a very good possibility?

Well done Milwall!!!!

Now 7 or 8 games left to promotion or play-off

Well done Millwall!

UEFA Cup football is a massive boost. Imagine drawing top European opposition to the New Den.

Big money spinner.

Only being buying shares for a short time and took a bit of a gamble on these. Nice one Millwall.

UEFA cup should bring some money Millwall's way, which can only be a good thing. Can we expect the share price to rise with this extra capital coming in.

I also keep heaing the term MM being used. Can someone explain what/who this is and how they affect the share prices.

congrats to the millwall fans and the club ...

Ive just got home from Old Trafford. Fantastic day

goss - The term MM refers to the Market Makers, who set the price to buy and sell shares, I would expect at the opening of the market today, they will push the buy price of Millwall up, and muck around with the sell price for a while, so they can buy and sell these shares and make a huge profit themselves, the difference between the buy and sell price is how they make their money. I personally feel 0.4pence by Friday. With the new ISA accounts starting from today, this maybe be one that a few people, might take a gamble on, although to be honest most of my money will be going into RTD (see the thread on this board)

All in all a great result for all Millwall holders, and a big thank you to thestatusquo for bringing this one to our attention, certainly pays to read the threads on this board, and then run off and do your research.

I will be watching the price of this stock very carefully this week.

Good luck to all MWH holders

I have sold this stock this morning and moved into CMS Webview(CWV) ahead of results.

Looking at the market cap of Millwall now it looks to be approaching fully valued. Sometimes the tiny share price can fool you.

IMO it really would be a gamble to hold on from here, and I would rather bank this profit and move on.

Good luck to all holders.

TSQ.

thestatusquo - fully agree with you, I also got out this morning, nice 600 pounds profit, not bad for 90 minutes of football

Nice one Tokyo!

And you didn't even have to play for 90 minutes!!

Not sure if you've re-invested but have a look at CMS Webview. (CWV) www.cms.co.uk

The thread on this board is a big one, but the stock has huge potential. Well worth a read.

TSQ.

thanks, will check it out, I'm an avid fan of RTD, have made alot with them in the past, and feel that long term they could also go up, also ZOO are ready for a push after the NAB in LA later this month, shall now run off and have a look at CWV

thanks again thestatusquo


Tokyo

thestatusquo - looks like we got out just in time, sell price is falling down to 0.28 now

Comparing Sunduland and Millwall in valuation terms

Sunderland @ 65p had a maket cap of 5.2 million and has a 30million debt and going for promotion.

Milwall @ 0.0029p has a market cap of 14.5 million, no debt, going for promotion and with spin off from the Cup final and Europe to come

Thanks for your advice and explanation Tokyo

so really they should be a lot higher than they are! i bought in at 1p many years ago so if i can get my money back that would be nice :)))

G12

goss - glad it helped

Any views on Millwall shares before cup final?

ep

.21p at present.
Any shares at .21p or less - minimum downside - worth a look ? I will analyse
all suggestions /advice.Thanks aj

Can MWH really be worth hanging onto in long term?

Doesnt look promising

whats happened here - everytime i look at mwh over the past few years seems to be permanently reversing!

think i'll steer clear for now :-)))

massive volumes today LOL
:-))))))))))))))))))))))))

I take it you have read this!

We could buy a new player with that 100k a year

"The Directors estimate that annual direct and indirect costs of the Shares' AIM listing are at least 100,000. This estimate includes listing expenses and advisory, legal and audit fees but excludes any costs associated with the considerable amount of senior executive time which is also spent dealing with the issues related to the AIM listing"

Could buy a following for less jeff :-)

thanks skinny - no i hadnt - i concentrate on so many shares sometimes miss things like this - that certainly explains the situation which is dire for this share now - last time i considered mwh was a few years ago - didnt do much better as i went into lufc for a medium punt and looked what happened there - down about 30% then before i exited with me tail between me legs!!! lol - feel for anyone affected by this and i am surprised as i thought once the reissue / consolidation (was it about a tenner or something) thought mwh was sorted but apparetntly not

nice one dil!