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Traders Thread - Friday 21st May (LLOY)     

Crocodile - 20 May 2004 21:10

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ThePlayboy - 21 May 2004 07:10 - 2 of 35

FRIDAYS FTSE PP

R2 4493
R1 4461
PP 4440
S1 4408
S2 4387

Ftse closed below s1 on Thu and only lost .1 in the auction, cont downtrend below 35 cash imho unless dow can get a close above 9980, preferable 10k, but dull and rangebound atm! equity option expiry today!

ThePlayboy - 21 May 2004 07:10 - 3 of 35

Updated 5/20 for Friday's market.
Key DOW Levels for 5/21
UP Above 10,100
DN Below 9,900

Sideways Day
Dow holds at lows, forms tight consolidation.

From prior commentary, "...Look for the index to reach the lower boundary of the range at around 9,880 tomorrow, though we will likely see further volatility within the overall range, which spans from 9,880 to 10,100..."
The Dow traded sideways the entire session, ending the day lower by less than one point, as seen in the 15 Minute Chart. The index formed a tight consolidation at the lows from 9,900 to 9,970, which we will watch closely tomorrow. A downside break from the consolidation will likely spark a near term move lower toward 9,800, while an upside break will test recent highs.

However, looking at the 60 Minute Chart shows that a downside break through 9,900 will likely spark an even further decline, potentially toward the 9,500 level. Therefore, 9,800 will be a key level to watch, as a break below it will indicate that such a move is likely. Otherwise, look for the index to continue to slosh around within the sloping range boundaries of 9,900 and 10,100. Remember, a break from this range will likely spark a swift and powerful move. Watch it closely.

Short Term Dow

Short term, the Dow has formed a tight consolidation at the lows of the 5 Minute Chart from 9,900 to 9,970. Watch for a break from this range for direction tomorrow morning.

Medium Term Dow

In the medium term, we are still out of the market, since none of our entry levels were triggered. We will watch 9,900 down, and 10,100 up tomorrow; using 20 point stops.

NASDAQ & S&P

The S&P and NASDAQ each traded strictly sideways today, forming tight ranges at the lows. Watch the consolidations closely for breaks tomorrow, as such will likely lead to movement. *

Summary

The Dow traded sideways throughout the day, forming a clear range at the lows. Watch this range closely, as a break from it will likely indicate whether further movement within the wider range is likely. Watch 9,900 down, and 10,100 up for medium term direction tomorrow.


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zarif - 21 May 2004 07:12 - 7 of 35

morning croc et al.
Nice sunny morning start up in Ellesmere-port.
Hope the Rays of Sun bring some light on the Ftse as it played in a 20pt range yesterday.

rgds
zarif

hijeff - 21 May 2004 07:19 - 8 of 35

morning,TOMK out with terrible set of results,good short.

Crocodile - 21 May 2004 07:29 - 9 of 35

Morning all

jj50 - 21 May 2004 08:07 - 10 of 35

morning croc and all.

Mega Bucks - 21 May 2004 08:14 - 11 of 35

morning campers,

long arm cs ctm mks tsco wlw dax nas s&p...

thanks croc for the thread,hope your keeping well!!!!

Mega...

little woman - 21 May 2004 08:27 - 12 of 35

Morning all

orky1963 - 21 May 2004 08:35 - 13 of 35

morning all

First time on the site.are you all full time traders?


Orky

bosley - 21 May 2004 08:51 - 14 of 35

just looked at % gainers and losers for today and its very confusing.

Fundamentalist - 21 May 2004 08:53 - 15 of 35

Morning all

thanks croc, nice to see TP again

IanT(MoneyAM) - 21 May 2004 08:57 - 16 of 35

bosley,

There would appear to be an error somewhere with this - we are investigating.

Ian

ThePlayboy - 21 May 2004 09:09 - 17 of 35

to see you nice, hope your having a good week Fundamentalist, not too good for me this week!

little woman - 21 May 2004 09:23 - 18 of 35

orky, you'll find the full time traders over in the traders room

Please everyone correct me if I'm wrong, but we are mostly investors who like to trade from time to time. (Some more than others!)

Fundamentalist - 21 May 2004 10:22 - 19 of 35

TP

This week has bucked my recent trend and been very good to me, mainly due to the large rises in SKP earlier in the week. See the rumours are back that ROK Property are looking to take over Galliford Try again, can only be good for the GFRD price short term.

amberjane - 21 May 2004 11:25 - 20 of 35

LW. "Some more than others" - guess thats you then, arent you nearly 'full time' with all this day trading youre doing now? Own up, how many trades this month? Notice u said been in & out of shel and cyh a few times?
Regards, Amber

ps. got my first divi this morning, Bovis. Normally I'm either not in a share long enough or the company doesnt have divis??? Nice suprise shame its only small investment.

little woman - 21 May 2004 13:05 - 21 of 35

ahhhhhhhhh, but I have days when I don't do any trading at all (although lately they are fewer) - & the trading only provides the little extras in life, so I have to work occassionally to pay the bills.

little woman - 21 May 2004 14:49 - 22 of 35

Another quiet afternoon in here again. Doesn't look like the dow wants to break 10000 again.

stockbunny - 21 May 2004 15:08 - 23 of 35

Ah but don't you find sometimes this is more enjoyable than the working
bit LW (lol) unless of course its a day like yesterday when it was nice to
forget it and do some real work instead.
How's your golf going? and did you wash the offending mess off your car?

It looks good today, reasonable proportion of blue around and the DOW
also looks positive - fingers crossed....

little woman - 21 May 2004 15:32 - 24 of 35

No I didn't wash my car, but it started raining heavily when I was on the 10th. So I gave up, as I don't like playing in the rain, and the car got a rinse!

Errrrr the dow & ftse are heading south - and hour left until UK close. A lot can happen 60 min.

stockbunny - 21 May 2004 15:53 - 25 of 35

Yes I spoke too soon, it looked quite good there for a while
although nothing spectacular most are holding minro gains,
a day for being thankful for small mercies I suppose.....

stockbunny - 21 May 2004 15:53 - 26 of 35

Yes I spoke too soon, it looked quite good there for a while
although nothing spectacular most are holding minor gains,
a day for being thankful for small mercies I suppose.....

little woman - 21 May 2004 15:57 - 27 of 35

Mayby not! Heading north again! Dow needs to break 10,000 and stay above it for the FTSE to do anything. But even if it does, chances are the FTSE will start down on Monday, as the presumption that the DOW won't hold etc. etc.

stockbunny - 21 May 2004 16:05 - 28 of 35

Personal opinion only, but I get the feeling a lot of people on the
markets need to calm down a bit and have needed to for the last week
or so. OK so US interest rates could go up, but they couldn't stay
at 1% for ever and I can't believe the US economy would come crashing
down on a rate increase, plus the price of oil has been high before
and it drops just as fast as it goes up, again hardly likely to send
all reality crashing to the floor!
Seems since the crash in 2000, people are scared quickly these days and
profit take instantly on the slightest thing as if the end-is-nigh...
The yo-yoing across the world these last couple of weeks has been
amazing - up 100+, down 100+ it seems panic driven at times....

optomistic - 21 May 2004 16:29 - 29 of 35

Stockbunny, thanks for that bit of practical enlightenment. Anything you like in the Tea Room, on me :-))

stockbunny - 21 May 2004 16:35 - 30 of 35

Sorry had to have a 'put the world to rights' moment!
So this is where you've been hiding this afternoon,
hope it's been a good day and be lucky!!

optomistic - 21 May 2004 16:42 - 31 of 35

You bunnies take some keeping up with!! see you over there.

stockbunny - 21 May 2004 16:45 - 32 of 35

OK so who's chasing who here....
(runs out back to the tea-rooms...)))

ThePlayboy - 21 May 2004 16:58 - 33 of 35

MONDAYS FTSE PP

R2 4472
R1 4452
PP 4433
S1 4413
S2 4394

Ftse closed below its pp on fri and gained 1.3pts in the auction, closed right on the line of the down trend off Fri high, pos break up at 33 and pp confrimes it for Monday, if not cont weakness, down yet again need to close above 10k for pos strength to 10100 imho!

ThePlayboy - 21 May 2004 16:59 - 34 of 35

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WEEKLY FTSE PP

R2 4531
R1 4481
PP 4422
S1 4372
S2 4313

Looks like more of the same range bound action sadly next week, 4400 clear sup on 1yr with 4360 next, 4460 res up, pos Head and shoulders on 5day chart in header, break up at 4440 bullish if not i,m bearish below for the week, dow still all about 10k, feels like its been there forever, 9900 the critical level with 10100 up the next res!

ThePlayboy - 21 May 2004 16:59 - 35 of 35

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