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daves dazzlers - 05 Jun 2004 16:53

I HE THERE BEATING ICELAND????????WHOPEEEEEEEEEEE.

STORMCALLER - 06 Jun 2004 01:19 - 2 of 189

After such a performance, they called ranieri "tinkerman", I counted 18 substitutions, and that was before kick-off
SC

gallick - 06 Jun 2004 19:45 - 3 of 189

Since the French are almost certain to qualify, the crucial games for the English will be the other two games against Switzerland and Croatia. Probably about a 60% chance of qualification IMHO.

scotinvestor - 07 Jun 2004 09:52 - 4 of 189

Zero chance, lol

I'm supporting Russia

predator22 - 07 Jun 2004 11:50 - 5 of 189

bosley - 07 Jun 2004 12:26 - 6 of 189

england have 2 chances

slim and
no

AdieH - 07 Jun 2004 12:35 - 7 of 189

Lol, what about swedish chances? Think they could win their group?

daves dazzlers - 07 Jun 2004 13:38 - 8 of 189

czech republic for me,,,backed weeks ago ,,20/1 . go on baros my son leading scorer overall 16/1 .
adieh sweeds mite go well,,,,,,,,,,,,king henrik larrson back at the helm.

scotinvestor - 07 Jun 2004 13:45 - 9 of 189

i hate larsson - dirty, diving, cheating git. Glad he's leaving my country at last

daves dazzlers - 07 Jun 2004 14:07 - 10 of 189

scotinvestor whats your team, i take it your not a celtic boy then.

Dil - 07 Jun 2004 15:34 - 11 of 189

I think England might win.

scotinvestor - 07 Jun 2004 15:54 - 12 of 189

in your dreams Dil. Your prediction for this is like your share tips - crap.

England will lose to France for a start and even if they qualify for next round cos they play 2 duff teams, then they will lose the next round as they will be playing someone decent again.

English league is only good cos of all the foreigners in it ala Rangers and Celtic up here.
We cant get rid of the "ugly sisters" as we call them.

AdieH - 07 Jun 2004 15:55 - 13 of 189

Think england might get draw but stil finish 2nd hope i'm wrong love us to win the group. Live in hope.

Trix77 - 07 Jun 2004 16:11 - 14 of 189

"ugly sisters"

Phil & Gary Neville ??

bosley - 07 Jun 2004 16:31 - 15 of 189

put your money on italy . sure fire bet.great squad, players in form and european refs , so better decision making . and they have a point to prove after the debacle in korea.

Dil - 08 Jun 2004 00:26 - 16 of 189

Well scotinvestor your tip is only there because UEFA have no bottle. Cheating gits should have been kicked out.

PS I have never given one crap share tip ... just been unlucky on the odd occassion :-)

scotinvestor - 08 Jun 2004 10:40 - 17 of 189

Dil, its not my tip, just my preference.

As for cheating gits....well only one player is guilty of that so not sure why whole team should suffer.

And we all know that every national team cheats in one way or other these days...........diving, play acting etc.

If you support a wee team either in England or SCotland, then you will probably still see true honest guys that play for the love of the game, albeit the quality is poorer but i prefer watching them as they r honest

brianboru - 08 Jun 2004 12:25 - 18 of 189

Spot on Scotinvestor - BSB and it's money have done the game no favours IMO - just enriched a few, mainly overseas players, with bent soccer managment taking their cut as well!

Almost every Yorkshire team has been bankrupted and all the money the fans input pissed away! But at least now most of the teams are back to playing British players.

scotinvestor - 08 Jun 2004 12:46 - 19 of 189

You also mention UEFA, Dil

UEFA, FIFA etc have also ruined the game in modern times with all the different rule changes. Does anyone know what the offside rule is these days. If so, how come one team is given an offside goal and another one isnt.

I always find (whether in Italian, English or Scottish leagues!) that the bigger teams get almost everything, whether penalties given/not given, offside goals, players that should be sent off that aren't etc.

Yes, Brianboro u r right. All this money has made the game worse. But even some of the British players (albeit at the highest level) cheat by diving etc (ie. Michael Owen)

daves dazzlers - 08 Jun 2004 13:17 - 20 of 189

SPOT ON SCOTY,,I`AM A LIVERPOOL FAN ,,AND GO TO THE GAMES ,,AN WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT OWEN IS RIGHT..AS FOR FIFA/UEFA THERE A JOKE THERE SCARED OF THE FOOTBALL CLUBS,,IN CASE THEY GO THERE OWN WAY,AS THAY KEEP SAYING THEY WILL DO. THEY HAD A CHANCE TO SHINE AND DO THE RIGHT THING,IN THAT GAME WALES/RUSSIA,,,AND FAILED US ALL.

bosley - 08 Jun 2004 13:39 - 21 of 189

the bigger teams have always had better decisions . its the way it has always been ..... so no change there. if so many people are disillusioned with the modern game , then why do so many more people watch it? fifa get nothing but criticism , yet some of their rule changes have allowed football and footballers to flourish , i.e. the no pass back rule change ( older people will remember the dirges games became when keepers were allowed to pick up the ball from a back pass) and also trying to outlaw the tackle from behind . these kinds of rule changes have made the game more enjoyable to watch . as for the offside rule , its always been complicated and long may it continue to be so .truth be told , it can never be simple.as much as we all get caught up in the games , please remember, its only a game. ( yeah ! right!!!!) anyway,

FORZA ITALIA!!!!!!!

brianboru - 08 Jun 2004 19:01 - 22 of 189

I like both Italy and France so will put a fiver win on them each time they play with a fiver on an Italy/France final - Big gambler me ;-)

aevansdj - 08 Jun 2004 20:37 - 23 of 189

I think England will draw with France then it's all about not getting complacent against the Swiss & Croats.Then it's a case of anything can happen in the knockout games.
Personally I like the look of the Italians as they never concede too many goals and have a bit of grit & guile.Del perio & Totti will be the ones everyone looks to but I think Cassano of Roma could be a future star if he gets a look in.

Dil - 08 Jun 2004 20:43 - 24 of 189

When Dwayne Chambers? tested positive the whole British relay team were stripped of their medals. UEFA missed a golden opportunity to send out a zero tolerance to drug cheats when they allowed Russia to keep their place imo scotinvestor.

Still think England will win but can't really see me cheering them on.

Seine - 08 Jun 2004 22:43 - 25 of 189

beckham's tatoo is a bad sign!hope he will be a sub...nto for a cap!
Owen may shine again, as he is a better cheater than maradona!

pd4wcuf - 09 Jun 2004 15:59 - 26 of 189

They're all a bunch of cheating B*!"rd&

daves dazzlers - 09 Jun 2004 16:36 - 27 of 189

to,right,but rich cheating b******s

gallick - 09 Jun 2004 18:39 - 28 of 189

I understand that 1/3rd of Scots will be supporting England...amazing.

Footballers do cheat, but surely it is up to the refs to punish them. Also in my view they should hand out yellow and red cards after the match once a second official has looked at TV replays and discovered cheating (this could lead to bans/ players missing future matches). Admittedly it is not much good giving a subsequent red card to a player who was in the final (I don't think they will be too worried about missing a qualifying game for the next world cup)!!

brianboru - 10 Jun 2004 00:30 - 29 of 189

"I understand that 1/3rd of Scots will be supporting England...amazing."

Never! Someones talking complete bollocks to you. No self respecting Scot would dream of supporting the bloody Sassenachs. You didn'i buy any snake oil fray this guy, did yea?

scotinvestor - 10 Jun 2004 13:03 - 30 of 189

Gallick, your statement comes from a recent article. However it states that about 1/3 of scotland will be supporting england. However, up here the recent figures say that 18% of Scotland is populated by English. So maybe they asked all the english guys in the survey, lol.

Sassenach.........well i'm actually one. A sassenach is someone from the lower parts of Scotland (under the highland line roughly)

pd4wcuf - 10 Jun 2004 13:13 - 31 of 189

Up yours English boy!!!

Golfclub12 - 10 Jun 2004 13:21 - 32 of 189

Q final or semis and the out form Jammy Germans will be in the final again and probably win!!!!!!!!!!!!

COME ON ENGLAND

Eng 2 france 1

daves dazzlers - 11 Jun 2004 08:35 - 33 of 189

ant thoughts on a top scorer overall,,a bit of money now coming in for owen.usually does well on the big stage,8/1

bosley - 11 Jun 2004 08:56 - 34 of 189

top scorer is tough . i mean , theres owen , but also the great man , vierri , or raul , morientes , van niestelroy, kluivert , henri,and many others. i would say raul because hes due a few goals.

daves dazzlers - 11 Jun 2004 09:17 - 35 of 189

bosley,,any thoughts on milan baros/backed him 6 weeks ago 25/1.

bosley - 11 Jun 2004 09:26 - 36 of 189

could be a good choice . all depends on how far they go in the tournament.

deadfred - 11 Jun 2004 09:34 - 37 of 189

well well see craps still allowed on this site

buy drinks companies
why??????

well if england look like wining more drink drunk
if they lose even more drink drunk

good old british press keep pumping the fools with pride ill make a bucket load
(from a caney jock with no frock)

lol(the frock was an english invention for queen vic(not eastenders for the knob heads)

Seine - 11 Jun 2004 22:38 - 38 of 189

com-on!..old bag!

Scripophilist - 12 Jun 2004 13:52 - 39 of 189

http://www.footballbadgers.com

stockpick - 13 Jun 2004 22:02 - 40 of 189

I dont believe it..... thats all I can say at the moment, I am gutted !!!!

Tokyo - 13 Jun 2004 22:23 - 41 of 189

you and me both

petralva - 13 Jun 2004 22:28 - 42 of 189

david james is a liability,why didnt he just let the ball run out,and what the hell was gerrard thinking.

daves dazzlers - 13 Jun 2004 22:38 - 43 of 189

i`am not english so it don`t effect me,but if you play owen even when he`s crap,when sven should of took alan smith instead or the lad from southampton ,,what do you expect.owens first touch is weak to say the least,he dont make it stick.if sven would drop owen ,,england mite have a chance.

Dil - 13 Jun 2004 22:39 - 44 of 189

Sod that. If that useless tw*t who gets paid millions had managed to score from a penalty then it was goodnight Pierre !

Blame Beckham , missed against Turkey too but his team mates saved him that night !

stockpick - 13 Jun 2004 23:03 - 45 of 189

Henri always plays behind so why the hell did Gerrard pass it back to him. World class player, world class blunder. Heskey, well what can you say, we live to fight another day but cant affoed any mistakes. Time for a few beers to drown sorrows. Bartez was going before he took it, he knows Becks game well enough.

brianboru - 14 Jun 2004 00:16 - 46 of 189

Whew! nearly dropped a fiver there! Local English pub I was in went dead quiet when the Zidane pen went in - I decided against jumping up and down with delight! Still, well chuffed - France 2 England 1. Nice one! Bonny Prince Charlie would be well pleased!

pd4wcuf - 14 Jun 2004 07:46 - 47 of 189

there's a few sad faces in the office today, not me though-get it up the smarmy gits

bingobingham - 14 Jun 2004 07:55 - 48 of 189

Beckham's strike was a good one. The keepers save was amazing. That's life. The only thing I have to say, is what the f**k wa Gerrard thinking! David James didn't really have much option. If he'd have let it run, Henry would have scored. I am gutted too!

Insider trader - 14 Jun 2004 08:00 - 49 of 189

England haven't a hope. Reason? Easy, Englands players are over-paid, the captain is a poof who concentrates too much on the colour of his nail varnish and his latest tattoo than his football.
There just isn't the 'hunger' in Englands game as there was in years gone by.
So I think they should only paid then what they are worth, and introduce performance related pay, so if they win a game they get a nice bonus (all of the team) but keep the wages small IMHO.

daves dazzlers - 14 Jun 2004 08:04 - 50 of 189

well said IT,,,a realist like myself.

scotinvestor - 14 Jun 2004 09:12 - 51 of 189

The media in England hype the English team up to be world beaters. Reality shows that they aint unless they play in England where they play better like most nations.

Beckham is way way over-rated. All he can really do is cross a ball. He does that well though, much better than most players.

You'll never stop the vast sums of money these empty headed morons get paid at footy now.

BSkyB has a lot to answer for.........and i dont like all these games played on a sunday midday, afternoon, monday night etc etc.
Bring back sat at 3pm and wed at 7.30pm when i used to go lots 20 or so years ago. I stopped going to footy now as i think most of it is garbage. Most players cant even trap a ball.

deadfred - 14 Jun 2004 09:47 - 52 of 189

this is a posting i made in another bb scot investor dajavu

now im scottish as you all should know
i was supporting england last night up until

well lets say half time started the decreasing support

the english tele just could not help themself,s could they

halftime compitition who scored this goal against scotland(first piss take lets stick the jocks noses in it)
hey i was even supporting england after this (felt sorry for the biased commentators)

no support really went when 66(remember the 66(the only team in the world cup compitition (ever) never to move out of there national stadium ever) 66))
support was still there but not as much

it really left when the commentator comes out with the best put your foot in it big time comment(88 min)

the french manager is moving to spurs after this compitition was his reception going to be a friendly one(not according to old moxy)

all hes going to hear around the grounds is 1-0 1-0 1-0

according to your irritating commentators
because youve already won the game as far as these no brain mothers are concerned(imho)

for some reason your english television and radio commentators just cant get it into there heads that the game lasts till the whistle is blown

now as you might have guessed by now my support has left the english camp(just because of the tripe these guys are allowed to spit out)

i was wanting england to beat the french but when you have ppl like your commentators and program organisors taking the piss and making out that the team have already won when the ball is still being kicked smells of pure ARROGANCE

it pains me to say this but im glad the french won because of what i said above

ive lots of english m8 and they have agreed with me on this

true english supporters should be flooding the tele with complaints that the ppl you are listening too dont seam to have a real touch on reality(imho)

im glad that the french stuffed their words down there throats(but am a bit sorry england lost as in the team not the bigoted reporters you have)

brianboru - 14 Jun 2004 10:44 - 53 of 189

I almost feel sorry for the English supporters ;-) However, they were playing the perhaps the best team in the world - so it's not really a bad result.

I expect them now to get runner up place, beat Spain in the quarters but then meet, and get beaten by, Italy in the semis. Even put a tenner on'm to beat the Swiss.

ajren - 14 Jun 2004 10:48 - 54 of 189

In case anyone is interested :-

Spain beat Russia 1/0.Russia were very good.They gave 100 per cent in energy,
fight,determination and were not intimidated.
rgds aj

cathbroadley - 14 Jun 2004 10:51 - 55 of 189

England "LOL"

Fundamentalist - 14 Jun 2004 10:54 - 56 of 189

Well we almost got lucky and nicked the game, I dare say a draw would have been a fair result. For me Zidane had a poor game but then when the chips were down his class shown through.

Arjen
I thought Russia were awful. they were crude and cynical at the back and a number of their defenders were lucky to stay on the pitch. they were clueless going forward

ajren - 14 Jun 2004 11:09 - 57 of 189

Fundamentalist,

Surely 1/0 says everything ? Spain were expected to win 4/0.The Spanish
commentators were full of praise for them.

I have watched nearly all of Real Madrid matches on t.v.Zidane and almost the entire team are greatly overrated.Ronaldo,Carlos and Beckam are the best.Raul
WAS excellent.
rgds aj

AdieH - 14 Jun 2004 11:27 - 58 of 189

1 - 0 equals 3 points, doesn't matter what the score was, my tip to do well are the Spanish... Want England to do well but hey should have realised they couldn't see a match out...

ajren - 14 Jun 2004 11:33 - 59 of 189

I agree about 3 points but they were very unhappy.Think about how long it took
them to get 1 goal.
rgds aj

AdieH - 14 Jun 2004 11:46 - 60 of 189

Look at Portugal who would have bet against them losing the opening match, still the crunch match to decide winners will probably be Portugal vs Spain... Who have you backed arjen?

deadfred - 14 Jun 2004 12:05 - 61 of 189

i did adie i did same as i bet france would get beat in first game last world cup

nerves some times play funny tricks

Fundamentalist - 14 Jun 2004 12:05 - 62 of 189

Adie

I think you'll find Dave Dazzler backed Greece to beat Portugal!!! Personally i think the tournament will be out of France, Italy and Spain

Peter Duerden - 14 Jun 2004 12:15 - 63 of 189

Once again we managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.....how anyone can say Heskey is an international footballer has always amazed me.....great to see Rooney hungry, direct and not afraid to stick the boot in, shame the invisble midfield and owen had to be shown by an 18 year old. the defence was fine, king and campbell were solid...why was james in the middle of his goal for the freekick??..his wall should have been covering the left side to allow him to cover the right....was scholes actually playing.??..and becks should never be captain in a month of sundays..he has absolutely no leadership qualities....post mortems yet again....!!

Fundamentalist - 14 Jun 2004 12:41 - 64 of 189

PD - pretty good summary. also thought interesting that Cole kicked Pires off the park (literally!!!)

daves dazzlers - 14 Jun 2004 13:24 - 65 of 189

afternoon boys/girls.
denmark to win,
bulgaria to win,,and im in the money,,,,,i feel let down by england as i would of had another 20 in my kitty,,oh well.

scotinvestor - 14 Jun 2004 16:35 - 66 of 189

scotinvestor - 14 Jun 2004 16:36 - 67 of 189

Scotland placed on a major flood alert. All areas of Scotland were last night placed on high alert as a major flood is expected this morning. This is thought to have been caused by most of Scotland pishing themselves laughing at the England result.

hahahaha

daves dazzlers - 14 Jun 2004 16:41 - 68 of 189

scoty,wales have had the same warnings.

ajren - 14 Jun 2004 17:05 - 69 of 189

France ?
rgds aj

brianboru - 15 Jun 2004 00:17 - 70 of 189

Impressive display by the Swedes - come in to 18.5 to 1 on betfair (you could have got 87 to 1 a while ago). Interesting competition!
My favorites (Italy) looked nothing special at all.

bosley - 15 Jun 2004 11:46 - 71 of 189

brianboru, dont be fooled.tournaments are all about peaking at the right time, i.e. the final . great tournaments teams like italy , germany , france tend to start not so well and improve as the tournament progresses. france showed against england that they could up their game . did england??. thats as good as england get.italy will improve greatly for their next game against sweden , who were never 5 goals better then bulgaria. also, the press and media criticism back in italy will hurt the pride of the players. this will give trapatoni ammunition to galvanise his players. even at their worst( and last nights performance wasnt far off thier worst) they still didnt concede, buffon, nesta , and cannavaro , played well. i expect beter things from italy in the next couple of games. they will get better , as will france, portugal and spain.

AdieH - 15 Jun 2004 11:55 - 72 of 189

Don't write off the swedes, I have them winning the group...

daves dazzlers - 15 Jun 2004 11:59 - 73 of 189

GERMANY to win against holland ,,,,,,come on didi hamman.

daves dazzlers - 15 Jun 2004 12:01 - 74 of 189

italy/england/holland, all over rated and living in the past sad but true.watch out for the cechs and baros,,,,,,,,,,,quality.

deadfred - 15 Jun 2004 12:05 - 75 of 189

cechs are my tip for tourny
got them at 14/1

big time

imho

daves dazzlers - 15 Jun 2004 13:05 - 76 of 189

BEAT YOUR PRICE ,DEADFRED 20/`,,WEEKS AGO.

Flackwell Vialli - 15 Jun 2004 19:39 - 77 of 189

Note that all the celtic vermin have decided to post on the boards now. What does a Scot know about sucess in a tournament ? What do they know about winning ?

Enjoy your moment whilst it lasts, we'll have far more to enjoy ourselves from both our own sucesses and Scottish/Welsh/Irish defeats.

daves dazzlers - 15 Jun 2004 19:43 - 78 of 189

come on germany,you no it makes sence.

gallick - 15 Jun 2004 22:40 - 79 of 189

All the teams have played now. Who has impressed? I would say France, Sweden and more questionably the Chech Rep. England were also good. As I suspected, Italy were rubbish, Spain poor and Holland and Germany the same. (As you can see I've been doing a lot of work recently).

Will England qualify? With Owen off form I think our survival depends on the goals coming from Rooney and Lampard. The trouble with Rooney is you cannot be sure that he will stay on the pitch! I think the Swiss and Croats will be out to wind him up.

daves dazzlers - 15 Jun 2004 22:47 - 80 of 189

agree on the later but i have to go with the czech`s,there the most fluid i think.as for owen i never rated him ,thats from a liverpool fan.larsson looks as if he`s never been away to me.

brianboru - 16 Jun 2004 00:15 - 81 of 189

At the moment the French are clear favorites @ 2.85 to 1 with the next team (Italy) drifting out to 6.2 to 1. That's on Betfair BTW.
I feel certain England will beat the Swiss and have upped my bet to a ton to win fifty eight and a bit.
This Scot *will* be cheering England!!!

daves dazzlers - 16 Jun 2004 07:50 - 82 of 189

now into the second set of group matches. i hope i have more luck in these games,than in the first group games,,,england, latvia ,germans, all going close for me but just failing, unlucky.

gallick - 16 Jun 2004 22:44 - 83 of 189

Moment of truth approaching for England. On a positive note, if England do qualify, they could meet Greece in the q-finals which would be a much better draw than France are likely to get.

daves dazzlers - 16 Jun 2004 22:55 - 84 of 189

its not going to good up to now,on my bets.fridays looks a nice bet,,i have sweden to beat italy ,of odds of 4/1 ,and sweden look handy roll on.

daves dazzlers - 17 Jun 2004 08:09 - 85 of 189

will stephane keep michael,,in his pocket?????????

bosley - 17 Jun 2004 11:01 - 86 of 189

brianboru , are you worth a bet today in the gold cup?

brianboru - 17 Jun 2004 12:34 - 87 of 189

At tens or better perhaps but Mr Dinos is red hot favorite and it will probably be between him and Papineau don't you think - I've a little wager on myself for a first @ 10.5/1 and a bigger bet for a place @ 2.5/1 though.

This is from the racing post...

04/06/2004 Vodafone Coronation Cup (Class A) (Group 1) (4yo+)

....The St Leger winner Brian Boru was warm in the preliminaries and lacked the pace for a top-class race at this trip. He stayed on from the back of the field, looking in need of further, and he would be a fascinating prospect in the Ascot Gold Cup if allowed to take up his entry.....

Still get 10's and above on betfair.

Good luck on whatever you pick :-)

Hills have brought me in to sixes so somebody fancies me ;-)

Fundamentalist - 17 Jun 2004 12:39 - 88 of 189

Brian

I think you are without doubt the fastest horse in the race, but I am a bit worried about your ability to last 2 1/2 miles - hows your stamina feeling?

AdieH - 17 Jun 2004 12:41 - 89 of 189

Can anyone confirm the name of the horse 3.40 ascot that k fallon is on please? Anyone fancy this one too?

brianboru - 17 Jun 2004 12:44 - 90 of 189

From http://www.expertbettingadvice.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=7886

3.45 - Brian Boru (E/W). Currently available@11/1. Steps into the unknown distance wise but the further he goes the better he seems to travel. Has a habit of idling once in front but if he stays he could have too much toe for these at the business end of the race. Handles fast ground, and if has inherited his Dam's stamina, he could be difficult to beat at these longer distances.

http://www.expertbettingadvice.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=7886

brianboru - 17 Jun 2004 12:52 - 91 of 189

K Fallon is on the steamer Mr Dinos @ 1.48/1 on betfair - son't know whether theres much value there?

bosley - 17 Jun 2004 13:05 - 92 of 189

gonna put a few quid on you to win , bb. your name jumped out at me when i saw the list . always a good sign .

daves dazzlers - 17 Jun 2004 14:07 - 93 of 189

this is football boys ,,nags are on the other side,,cheers.

daves dazzlers - 17 Jun 2004 15:23 - 94 of 189

come on switzerland turn them over.

ajren - 17 Jun 2004 16:12 - 95 of 189

Want to guess the score ?

Me :-
England = 3/0
rgds aj

daves dazzlers - 17 Jun 2004 16:16 - 96 of 189

1/0 swiss ,h yakin.

ajren - 17 Jun 2004 16:19 - 97 of 189

More guesses ?
rgds aj

daves dazzlers - 17 Jun 2004 23:10 - 98 of 189

the croatia team pass the ball,better than england they should of killed the french off tonight no hassle.
i think the pressure on england more than croatia,,after all england have a lot to live up to,,its 38 years and counting.and the england fans still think there the best.

a bit of blind faith i think. 4/1 croatia to win ,long gone.

ajren - 18 Jun 2004 09:27 - 99 of 189

Ref my 3/0 above,

Want to maximise chances of winning money ?
3/0 explained
Switzerland are very bad.Probability was they would not score or draw.
Therefore,England 1/0,2/0,3/0,4/0,5/0 ---------- etc
1/0 and 4/0,5/0,----------- etc were unlikely
Therefore,probability was 2/0,3/0
I considered it 50/50 and merely guessed 3/0
.................
Beckam was terrible.He is excellent for Real Madrid.He had only 1 bad game.
rgds aj

ajren - 18 Jun 2004 17:25 - 100 of 189

Above is NOT ramping nor is it a guarantee you are maximising chances.
rgds aj

edddcarter - 18 Jun 2004 22:16 - 101 of 189

St georges army all the way, boys are doing us proud on algarve.Where they still use donkeys as there main form of transport i see are technical ability surpassing all these subsadised farmers.VOTE EURO NO.

daves dazzlers - 21 Jun 2004 22:38 - 102 of 189

looking good at the moment,owen ,,,playing like a pub lad,sorry but true.

brianboru - 21 Jun 2004 23:25 - 103 of 189

According to a post I saw on 'the other site' the Government are concerned that too many drivers with low IQ's are driving on our British roads. To warn other drivers of their presence it has been decided that those with IQ's under 70 must sport one white flag with a red cross above their drivers door and those classed as mentally sub-normal or below must display two or more on their vehicle.

Flackwell Vialli - 22 Jun 2004 18:46 - 104 of 189

Brian - Your comments on IQ are quite informative seeing that you didn't have the nous to think of such a joke yourself.

I conclude that your car must look like the UN.

daves dazzlers - 22 Jun 2004 20:26 - 105 of 189

i`ve seen alot of these drivers i belive its a secret group,other wise known as the flagsters..

back to the football,,the czech`s are bouncing along 20/1 in with a chance.and baros needs to find the net tomorrow 20/1 top scorer,,,,,,,,,,,come on milan.

AdieH - 23 Jun 2004 08:17 - 106 of 189

Baros might be rested dave, they have qualified and wanting to rest players, come on Rooney 40/1 EW for me...

daves dazzlers - 23 Jun 2004 08:30 - 107 of 189

adieh was it you ,who was talking about rooney as top scorer.it looks as if it mite be a good wager.

daves dazzlers - 23 Jun 2004 08:36 - 108 of 189

now there`s 8 teams left all most,, who`s going to lift the trophy now spain/italy/ have gone.still for me the czech`s, what do others think.

Fundamentalist - 23 Jun 2004 08:41 - 109 of 189

Dave

No change -still got the French written all over it!!!

daves dazzlers - 23 Jun 2004 08:45 - 110 of 189

i bet your on them fundy .

Fundamentalist - 23 Jun 2004 08:48 - 111 of 189

daves dazzlers - 23 Jun 2004 09:02 - 112 of 189

zz looking good 3 goals up to now,any nags your looking at today.

brianboru - 23 Jun 2004 10:58 - 113 of 189

Flackwell Vialli - I seem to have touched a nerve there mate ;-) Bet your old Astra's covered in'm ;-)

daves dazzlers - 23 Jun 2004 21:27 - 114 of 189

the baros bandwagon rolls on 3 in 3 ,get in there .
super,,super baz
super,,super baz
super,,super baz,,,,,,,,,,super milan baros.

gallick - 23 Jun 2004 22:02 - 115 of 189

gk's predicted semi-finals

England v Sweden
France v Chech Rep

Rgrds to all
gk

Abbie2u - 24 Jun 2004 09:06 - 116 of 189

Rooney has been compared to Pele.My husband thinks that is way off the mark
because his ability cannot be judged against a country like Croatia.How good he
is will be seen when he plays against Portugal.He thinks he will score 1 goal
at the most

Fundamentalist - 24 Jun 2004 09:19 - 117 of 189

GK

Like your prediction except I think Holland will beat the swedes. Will do a treble (excl England as dont want to jinx lol)

AdieH - 24 Jun 2004 09:23 - 118 of 189

England vs France final, it's destiny and England to win, got to be done,
The boy Rooney to be top goal scorer, got him 40/1 EW, get in there.

daves dazzlers - 24 Jun 2004 09:26 - 119 of 189

pele,3 world cups ,,,is that right. france 98 owen was the man, on a couple of good games ,now its rooney`s turn.the thing is these players are not the best/and they are not the worst.dalglish/cruff/best/maradonna/,etc all played consistently at the top of there game. rooney still has a lot to do modern players will find it hard to achieve greatness,with all the money they get at an early age. robbie fowler a modern god in his day,,,now earns more as a property holder [100 houses] and rising. still i bet he earns over 40k a week as a player at man city. nice work if you can get it.....come on wayne bank it young son,, all the best.

daves dazzlers - 24 Jun 2004 09:28 - 120 of 189

dont forget the czech`s,,,mate ,, baros.

scotinvestor - 24 Jun 2004 09:46 - 121 of 189

lol at AdieH.............you can kiss your money goodbye

England have no chance..........Sweden, Czech, Netherlands and France are all much better

AdieH - 24 Jun 2004 09:53 - 122 of 189

We shall see, I don't agree with your thoughts but lets wait and see tonight.
The Czech's are dangerous I agree but no one else has stamped their authority on the tournament so far, would not agree that Dutch or Swedes are better.

daves dazzlers - 24 Jun 2004 12:26 - 123 of 189

bring on the english,,and watch the czechs bounce high and collect the trophy
.fingers crossed.

daves dazzlers - 24 Jun 2004 21:31 - 124 of 189

nice one owen 130,for first scorer.england have 11 goal-keepers dil,talk about playing in your own half.

daves dazzlers - 24 Jun 2004 21:43 - 125 of 189

where waiting for syd james,to have a right carry on moment.

Fundamentalist - 24 Jun 2004 22:36 - 126 of 189

We were f***ing robbed by a bitter Swiss ref!!!!!!!

daves dazzlers - 24 Jun 2004 22:38 - 127 of 189

thats life.

daves dazzlers - 24 Jun 2004 22:39 - 128 of 189

fundy,are you a blue/city or red/utd.

Fundamentalist - 24 Jun 2004 22:40 - 129 of 189

Neither - I'm a gooner in Manchester!!!!!

daves dazzlers - 24 Jun 2004 22:41 - 130 of 189

be fair ashley cole played great.

daves dazzlers - 24 Jun 2004 22:42 - 131 of 189

who`s your money on now.

Tokyo - 24 Jun 2004 22:43 - 132 of 189

So unlucky, absolutely gutted!!
enough said!!

Fundamentalist - 24 Jun 2004 22:44 - 133 of 189

i thought Cole, Campbell and Neville were great at the back and Owen had a good game. The rest were poor! My money hasnt changed - still on the French

daves dazzlers - 24 Jun 2004 22:50 - 134 of 189

it will be intresting to now see what going on with stevee gerard,about this on/off move to chelsea,as our season tickets have to be payed for by july 1st . they have us by the balls dont they.i wont be fussed either way as long as the deal in our favour.

Fundamentalist - 24 Jun 2004 22:54 - 135 of 189

On the evidence of the last 3 games if chelsea are offering 40m id bite their arm off!!!!!

daves dazzlers - 24 Jun 2004 23:01 - 136 of 189

to right.kenyons been to liverpool yesterday fact, 20 million 2/3 players parker cole duff.its to good deal,i remember owen after france 98,when lazio would give us 40 million,,,look at him now ,,you be lucky if he would fetch 10 million now. hope the england fans dont start trouble,,fingers crossed.

Fundamentalist - 24 Jun 2004 23:04 - 137 of 189

Dave

you'll need rather large fingers - not much hope there. Thats why i wont go to England football games - the only certainty is that there will be trouble - a sad indictment on our country

daves dazzlers - 24 Jun 2004 23:12 - 138 of 189

thats true,,what i cant understand is the people the police catch look like young kids,,,where they get there money is a question i cant fathom.

daves dazzlers - 24 Jun 2004 23:23 - 139 of 189

next game for england is against wales.it wont be long before some one stokes the fire,and claims it will be a walk over for england,that you could put your money on that.
it will be a good game. england have the better players we now that,,put they just lack something,,to carry them through.if you could find what that

is,,england would have won things since 1966,they have had the players to win.

Seine - 24 Jun 2004 23:31 - 140 of 189

to be honest...I bet nobody really enjoyed the way England played to France...and again to Portgul... agree?

It is not happy to watch either!

I would rather watch Cze play Dutch or dutch play German...

Fundamentalist - 24 Jun 2004 23:31 - 141 of 189

Dave

knowing that you're a gambling man - a little side bet per chance?

daves dazzlers - 24 Jun 2004 23:35 - 142 of 189

on what.

daves dazzlers - 24 Jun 2004 23:40 - 143 of 189

seine,,now your talking.the czech`s play football,not long ball,,but they have the players to do that.look at owen tonight,,if he gets the ball and has time to dwell with it ,,he`s stuck,,,he plays better when its frantic,and he has to make snap decisions.if he gets to much time he`s crap and goes down blind alleys.

daves dazzlers - 24 Jun 2004 23:50 - 144 of 189

funny that,,most of today, english media have been laughing at germany`s result,,thinking they where better.just a thought,,passports please.

brianboru - 25 Jun 2004 00:07 - 145 of 189

You've got to laugh though - St.David of Beckham on 100,000 a week and can't kick a frigging ball straight!

Good luck to the Dutch.

daves dazzlers - 25 Jun 2004 08:34 - 146 of 189

there like a load of chickens in a farm yard allways on the move,,,but allways in the same ****.

Fundamentalist - 25 Jun 2004 08:36 - 147 of 189

England v Wales of course Dave

daves dazzlers - 25 Jun 2004 08:55 - 148 of 189

van the man,,is looking handy for the dutch.are you on anak pekan in the plate?

scotinvestor - 25 Jun 2004 09:22 - 149 of 189

told u AdieH that england would get knocked out.........didnt expect so though to a poor portugal team.

Thought a decent team would be require to beat them

Might get some peace and quiet now on tv and fropm the media.

stockbunny - 25 Jun 2004 09:23 - 150 of 189

Tea and sympathy is available all day in the tea-rooms for
depressed England fans....

AdieH - 25 Jun 2004 09:27 - 151 of 189

Scotinvestor, At least we had a team in the finals... Oh well.

Abbie2u - 25 Jun 2004 10:10 - 152 of 189

What would have happened if Rooney was not injured ?

davepyle - 25 Jun 2004 10:38 - 153 of 189

how typical.....national frenzy, optimism.....but in reality crap..hey, if beckams on 60,000 a week for kicking a ball about, yuou'd expect him to hit roughly the right area from the penalty spot......I think he and vassell should be "sacked" for gross misconduct as would most professionals in any walk of life who missed such an easy target....(If i fucked up that bad I would be!)

scotinvestor - 25 Jun 2004 10:54 - 154 of 189

beckhams penalty was a disgrace - he's now missed 3 times on the trot. He's vastly over-rated, only thing he can really do is cross a ball.

at least vassall hit the target and required a decent save from the goalie

rampage - 25 Jun 2004 11:03 - 155 of 189

If Rooney was not injured he would have scored two great goals and had them both disallowed

daves dazzlers - 25 Jun 2004 11:25 - 156 of 189

my local 99 pence shop is doing a deal,,to get people in.with every spot kick missed,,you get a free full bag of excuses. take it on the chin ... and move on.

Abbie2u - 25 Jun 2004 12:59 - 157 of 189

I think Beckam cannot play well when he is captain.

amberjane - 25 Jun 2004 13:04 - 158 of 189

Becks - only thing he can really do is cross a ball....

Believe he's crossed his wife once or twice too.

skids - 25 Jun 2004 13:08 - 159 of 189

lots of excuses on here about why england didn't win.... at the end of the day it was a good game. i don't think vassell deserves any negative talk because his shoot was on (unlike beckhams). thats football, you can't win them all, and Portugal deserve a bit of luck once in a while too.

skids
Portugal Sporter

daves dazzlers - 25 Jun 2004 13:34 - 160 of 189

well said skids,a realist .

deadfred - 25 Jun 2004 13:58 - 161 of 189

edd carter more like olivers army

now id like to point something out to the poor we lost soals who lost last night

sven takes it on the chin and stands up proud(his scandinavian up bringing)

what do the fans do

riot

what more can i say

angry nation angry people
chip as big as the sea of tranquility(thats on the moon for those that dont no)

im british not english and i hate being coraled with these clowns who claim to be football supporters but probably dont even own a season book of any team

england unlucky good try pick yourselfs up and dust your selfs down and try again
you have the makings of an oustanding team and a manager that seems to know what hes about

but plz plz get ride of the clowns they give the place a bad name(britain i mean(englands name has always been bad))

jokin(moron)

Flackwell Vialli - 25 Jun 2004 19:31 - 162 of 189

Nice to see the Jocks having a laugh - British vermin of the highest order.

Re: Penalties - As any footballer/fan will tell you there really a lottery/nerve test. Statistically we've had such a bad run that the tables will turn eventually.

As many have noted England aren't the team that the media/armchair brigade have painted. Those that can hold their heads high include the Evertonian, Cole, and Neville, but as a Chelsea boy I for one do not want Gerard at the Bridge. Too many wasted passes imo, and yesterdays midfield was absent. (Lamps with Gerard).
Hopefully Sven will learn not to rely on Heskey, and persist so much with an out of form Owen/Beckham - although both will bounce back.

And whilst the sweaties are enjoying their moment can I remind them of Euro 96, when they both lost the match, having missed from the spot.

daves dazzlers - 25 Jun 2004 22:04 - 163 of 189

fundy,,you better get on the czech`s,mate.only saw the last twenty mins,,,pain.

drinkgood - 25 Jun 2004 22:47 - 164 of 189

Flackwell

"Nice to see the Jocks having a laugh - British vermin of the highest order"

Oh really....you are a sad ignorant peasant...many of us have very good friends from south of the border and I for one was not laughing at the elimination of the only British team in the competition. Why don't you slink back to the gutter from whence you've come.

daves dazzlers - 26 Jun 2004 13:27 - 165 of 189

bye/bye,france.

brianboru - 26 Jun 2004 18:22 - 166 of 189

Flackwell - The reason I find it difficult to support England is the yobbish culture which surrounds English football (soccer) - You won't see the often nasty and violent sort of behavior from The Scots, Irish, Swedes, Dutch or anyone else in Europe even though they are just as passionate about both their country and their national team. Why the England team (and some English league teams) attract so much tatooed dross is beyond me but they do and it puts me off them.

Anyway, back to serious matters. Come on Van the Man. Hope they get through tonight and had a tiny bet on them.

goldfinger - 27 Jun 2004 02:13 - 167 of 189

http://www.ursmeier.ch/referee/

Click on this link if you hate referees, especially this one.

In fact send him an e-mail.

gallick - 27 Jun 2004 19:32 - 168 of 189

>> brianboru

You are not quite right there...the dutch fans have got a pretty bad reputation for violent behaviour in the past, although as always it is a tiny minority. Interestingly there is very little trouble these days in English soccer, only abroad where the foreign police don't know how to deal with it, and it is nearly always away from the stadiums. A case of alcohol fanning the flames of nationalism.

Which raises a rather big question...is nationalism/patriotism a good thing, or does it simply serve to divide people, although perhaps Euro 2004 has bought them together ?

See my predictions are doing well. If denmark win tonight that will be 0 out of 4. Best I stick to shares!

rgrds
gk

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daves dazzlers - 27 Jun 2004 21:09 - 169 of 189

and the czech`s are bouncing along ,,milan,milan,milan,,3/0,,get in there top scorer ,.baros

Flackwell Vialli - 28 Jun 2004 19:51 - 170 of 189

Drinkgood - Perhaps you ought to talk to a few of your fellow Scots who reguarly in the past used to come down en masse to London, smashed out of their skulls. Having attended a few Eng V Scot games I have seen at first hand the politeness/ettiquette of those proud to sport Tartan.

I also note that you think Football hooliganism is confined to the English - Perhaps you may recall for example Celtic fans (Scots ? Irish ?) returning from Europe, or Holland as another poster has pointed out plus many other club sides from such countries as Turkey, Germany, Spain and Italy.

The Scottish also frequently resort to the usual anti-English nonsense such as asking for their own parliament, then denying us our own, claiming the oil fields are theirs, when for years Scotland has sucked money from us in the south to pay their social security bills, etc etc. Perhaps that is why the English now proudly display the St Georges flag, rather than associate themselves with the Union Jack.

drinkgood - 29 Jun 2004 11:48 - 171 of 189

Flackwell

Wow ...the little rat has popped out of his sewer again.

Abbie2u - 29 Jun 2004 12:03 - 172 of 189

After ajren we need some lighthearted/fun posts.This thread was great.Recently
it has gone down to awful posts.Why ?

scotinvestor - 29 Jun 2004 12:45 - 173 of 189

your comments are a disgrace flackwell

if u want to slag off rangers and celtic, all fine and well as they r both scum but real scots aint like them

daves dazzlers - 29 Jun 2004 12:48 - 174 of 189

well there`s not many match`s on now ,i`am just hanging around waiting for my czech`s,,,to come to fruit,,so i can collect my loot.
any body else waiting to collect there loot?

scotinvestor - 29 Jun 2004 12:50 - 175 of 189

as for oil fields, well its international companies with foreign people including us scots that help to make oil money. Having said that, all the money is sent down to westminster.

i've never felt it for last 2 or 3 years but i do think Scotland should become independent.

FLACKWELL - 18 per cent od my country is now inhabited by u engl;ish and at work (i've worked for several companies) i seem to be surrounded by them. Cant get away from them it seems.

Anyone that knows anything about scotland knows that all the scots are leaving in their droves from scotland. its just asylum seekers and english left just about

daves dazzlers - 29 Jun 2004 13:03 - 176 of 189

same over here scotinvestor,unless you go 15/20 miles in land,,,at the moment we are not burning there houses down,,,where just putting glue in there locks{only joking} keep it on the football ha??????????????.

daves dazzlers - 30 Jun 2004 19:11 - 177 of 189

any intrest in tonights game portugal/holland,i hope van the man draw`s a blank.and portugal win.

joehargan1 - 30 Jun 2004 20:59 - 178 of 189

Portugal really deserve it after reaching the last 4 in Belgium and going out unluckily to France. They have the flair and the desire.. Holland look very ordinary despite their players...not played as a team this tournament. Mind you still gubbed us scots 6-O.at the Amsterdam arena. I was at that game and found myself sitting next to Colin Hendry (ex Blackburn and Scotland)...he's now just a regular fan and travels (in a kilt and tartan bunnet) everywhere with the Tartan Army. Anyway stick to the football on this thread you guys and just remember that we Scots are only down in England for one reason..it's all about improving the gene pool.

daves dazzlers - 30 Jun 2004 22:03 - 179 of 189

get in there,,now all on thursdays game.czech to win,,baros to bang one in.its nice to see portugal in the final , i hope there not to strong?..

daves dazzlers - 01 Jul 2004 18:53 - 180 of 189

well an hour to go,the big pay day is on the horizon,baros,to shine tonight and a big night for nedved,smicer if he plays and the czech keeper .if there winning by 2 at half time,i`am happy.

daves dazzlers - 01 Jul 2004 21:16 - 181 of 189

very tight this game .

daves dazzlers - 01 Jul 2004 21:38 - 182 of 189

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww,fingers crossed.

daves dazzlers - 01 Jul 2004 22:02 - 183 of 189

****,well that was worth a 10, what a ride,,shame i had to get off before the end.......

daves dazzlers - 04 Jul 2004 19:03 - 184 of 189

lets hope no-body gets a 3 goals or i am in the s**t.

Abbie2u - 05 Jul 2004 18:38 - 185 of 189

why did the guy run into the net ?

Flackwell Vialli - 05 Jul 2004 19:13 - 186 of 189

Because it was there.

daves dazzlers - 05 Jul 2004 19:47 - 187 of 189

thats true , good on him. been to collect my loot baros top goal scorer 260 ,happy with that.

Abbie2u - 05 Jul 2004 19:59 - 188 of 189

was he complaining about figo or the team or both ?

daves dazzlers - 05 Jul 2004 20:57 - 189 of 189

yes,but good all the same , for me it was better than the game.
looks like this thread is allmost done ,good while it lasted.

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