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Traders Thread Monday 28th June 2004 (CROC)     

Martini - 27 Jun 2004 14:10

Martini - 27 Jun 2004 14:11 - 2 of 30

Martini - 27 Jun 2004 14:11 - 3 of 30

Trading Thoughts For The Week Ahead  - Sunday 27th June

This week's guest is Mr Euro and gives his own thoughts on the week ahead and a personal view on his trading strategy in the US Markets with explanations of some of the Technical terms for those new to them. If anyone else would like to be the guest next week please let us know by emailing mike@moneyam.com

Monday 28 June Interims Beale - Near the end of March, the retailer announced sales for the first 20 weeks were 5.1% below the previous year, and that all indications were that the rest of 2004 would remain challenging. High costs and low retail inflation are to blame.Finals Northgate Information Solutions - In May Northgate announced results were expected to exceed market forecasts. The software outsourcers Rebus HR Group acquisition has performed better than expected, and the group should meet consensus pre-tax profits of around million.Tuesday 29 June Finals Carpetright - The second half of the carpet retailers financial year saw a sales increase of 8.6% compared with the same period last year. Like-for-like sales increased by 4.2%. Carpetright is now trading from 364 stores, as well as the 38 carpet concessions within Allders, the rollout of which was completed in March.Finals International Greetings - In June the greetings products manufacturer acquired Krakajack, one of the leading suppliers of crackers to the Irish market. The deal is forecast to contribute illion to turnover and facilitate IGs entry into the lucrative catering market. Expect news on further acquisition plans today.Wednesday 30 June Finals HMV - The music retailer enjoyed a strong Christmas, which continued through to its April year-end. Management expects profits to be at the top end of expectations, the market consensus being million. Cash generation has been stronger and net borrowings should be better than forecast.Ex-dividend Workspace Group - A year of strong growth saw the flexible accommodation provider raise its total dividend by 10.3% to 31p. The groups focus on managed workspace properties has continued to generate capital growth, with net asset per share rising by a healthy 22.1%. Pre-tax profits rose 12.7% to 1 million.Thursday 1 July AGM - Scottish Mortgage Inv.Trust - The trusts net asset value grew by 33.6% in 2003/04 after increasing its exposure to Emerging Markets and Asia. SMIT has assets of billion and aims to maximise return and dividend growth through investment in UK and international markets.Economics - Productivity Q1 - Just how hard do we work in the UK? These ONS statistics give details of output per job, output per hour and unit wage costs for the whole economy of the UK. Read the report at www.statistics.gov.uk/productivity.Friday 2 July AGM - Incepta - Inceptas May results reported a greater sense of optimism among clients, but can the same be said for its shareholders? The PR group suffered a 33% dive in pre-tax profits and admitted recovery would be patchy. Expect some positive forecasting combined with hard facts.AGM - Vitesse Media - The aim-quoted print and on-line publisher reported some encouraging results in April. Operating losses fell from ,000 to 000 in exceptionally difficult market conditions. Analysts forecast pre-tax profits of ,000 this year. The group has cash in the bank and is on the acquisition trail.ThoughtsA personal insight into trading the US markets Rather than providing trading thoughts for this week, I thought it might be an idea to share my trading style with you. Its a bit different to what you would normally read on a Sunday evening and probably a different trading style too. I do hope you find something that takes your interest and that it doesnt bore you to death! I have been trading for over 10 years now, got involved with the early ESI BB where I had the misfortune to meet a number of the characters still around today. Unfortunately less that about 5% remain, that tells you how difficult this trading business is. You only need to look at how people come and go on Crocs Traders Thread for confirmation of this. More by luck than judgement, I stumbled across a method of trading that makes me reasonable money and has enabled me to continue in this game. I have traded everything, from Dils (a well known Welsh maverick) dartboard method to pork bellies. I found trading futures unprofitable but was quick enough to recognise this and accept I wasnt good enough. Equally I find it difficult identifying decent opportunities in the UK, so I trade the US, specifically the NASD. If you are good enough to make money in the UK then making money in the US will be like taking candy of a baby. So how do I trade and whats my set-up? My data feeds come primarily from e-signal ($400/month) & MoneyAM and I trade through DA brokers (Direct Access, a method of placing trades directly into the order book via an electronic exchange). Stock Exchange rules require a minimum balance of $25k if you are going to trade more than 4 times a week this is known as a pattern trading (day trading to us). If this is beyond your means there are ways around this i.e. DA CFDs (Contracts For Differences a method for gearing your trading i.e. allows you to trade up to 10 times your account size) but I wouldnt bother with spread betting companies. In my experience, they will use every dirty trick in the book to stop you making money in this way - beating the market is difficult enough without trying to beat the crooks too. I have been banned from 2 such companies and another refused to open an account for me when I described my trading style. I have 5 different scanners (scanners identify stocks based on a given criteria) that run in more or less real time, which aim to pick up on momentum, be it up or down.scanner.gif This doesnt have to be a chart breakout but can be based on heavy buying from market movers. These opportunities arise from between 45-90 minutes after market open and also from 8pm CET. Here is an example of a trade from last week picked up using the scanner method:Amzn.gif I normally deal in 500 share lots with this method but in 1-2000 shares for the method described below. In my experience, these opportunities earn you money 20% of the time (depending on market state (trending/range bound). This isnt to say the remaining 80% are losers, perhaps half are flat but the secret, for me at least, is to get out the moment the market goes against you. This method alone is not enough and is not even my primary source of income; my main trading takes place during the first 30 minutes of the market opening. Many advocate avoiding the first hours trading, institutions generally wont touch it and some trainee traders are not allowed to trade during this period. For the stupid, brave or skilled operator its a gold mine. Volatility is tremendous with stocks moving a $ (or 100 points) - sometimes without hitting a trade all in the blink of an eye. But surely this is just gambling? No, its the easiest way I know to make money legally. My entry & exit points are based 95% on L2 (level 2 enables you to look into a stocks order book i.e. who is buying and who is selling). Charts can be useful for general support/resistance and to know where the technical traders will enter based on Fibonnacci levels or pivot points (technical trader indicators) but not much else. By studying the L2 book you learn to recognise patterns and can predict the move. NASD L2 is very different from the UK and for me at least tells me everything I need to know about a market. You see the action before it gets to any chart. Its not easy and it takes a lot of time to feel comfortable but the rewards warrant the investment IMHO.level2book.gif An easy way to get started for the novice L2 trader is to simply view the book for a couple of days and note the number of times you can see a gap (the market on one side supported by only one Market Maker with a large gap to the next) about to appear before it actually does. Its not uncommon for 30c gaps to appear and I have seen a 50c gap filled in a few seconds. Liquidity can be a problem in such cases so be careful. One of my personal favourites:Sinachart.gif I derive 80-90% of my profits through this method and could pack up for the day by 4pm CET, but the truth is I cant. I love the markets too much and probably like many of us, sit around staring into L2 books, my scanners and entering trades that arent there. This weeks trading was difficult, or at least Monday and Tuesday were like watching paint dry and even more painful than watching the England Rugby team. I counted myself lucky to only be 300 down by Tuesday; it could have been 10-20 times that given market conditions, but my momentum trades of the week helped:Yahoo.gif I was in and out more times than England score points against Wales at Twickers well over 50. I try to stay in the market for no longer than 10 minutes or so a day (when not playing momentum), yes I miss out on opportunities but I cut down on risk. When playing momentum, as mentioned above, I scale down on size and will let them run a bit longer. There are individuals that will coach you to trade in this way. They charge 1000+ per day and I am sure they are good value. Whilst I am not going to give away all my trade secrets on an open forum I hope I have given you a flavour of what works for me.

Mr Euro

A special thanks to Haystack and Martini for their editing contribution and I have to say, Martini has gone well beyond the call of duty top man.

All the above comments are purely a personal opinion and no investment advice is intended. Please do your own research

Martini - 27 Jun 2004 14:11 - 4 of 30

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What the Sunday Newpapers say
SUNDAY TIMES - Lord Black's attempt to block the 665 million sale of the Telegraph titles to the Barclay brothers given a boost by a Delaware court which has given him the go-ahead to launch legal action to stop it - Russian conglomerate AFK Sistema plans to float some of its largest divisions - Ryanair and BMI Baby planning a big challenge to Gatwick incumbent Easyjet - Standard Life will this week unveil a restructuring of the company designed to bring it into line with PLC standards of control - Hermes backs 80 million buyout at Oyez Straker - Highland Gold believed to have won two 20-year licences to exploit gold deposits in the China region of Siberia - Eight bidders have entered the final 3 billion race to buy one of National Grid Transco's local gas networks - The Weston family is to bankroll the expansion of the Build-a-Bear Workshop chain of stores - Bridgepoint signs an exclusivity agreement with Pets At Home after offering to pay about 30 million more than the 200 million asking price. Inside the City: - If Berkeley Group trades on the same rating as its new peers, St Modwen and Quintain Estates, the shares will stand at a small premium to assets - The big concern is that Lloyds TSB should be a recovery story, yet there are no visible signs of its happening Citywire Market Mole: - Framlington star Nigel Thomas has top-sliced 100,000 shares in Cairn Energy from his UK Selected Opportunities unit trust holding Judgment Day: - Should you buy shares in John Laing? - Yes. Agenda: - Strange goings on at Marks & Spencer Other comment: - Interview Adrian Wyatt of Quintain Estates.
SUNDAY TELEGRAPH- Michael Spencer makes 1.8 million in Marks & Spencer shares coup - Virgin Mobile and M&C Saatchi poised to float within days - CVC Capital in pole position to win Centrica's AA auction - Capital One emerges as favourite to buy Egg for Prudential - T-Mobile to launch its new 'juice box' online music service tomorrow - Cable & Wireless is facing legal claims for at least 50 million after its Pender offshore insurance subsidiary refused to pay out on policies written during the height of the dotcom boom Equity View: - Buy Cairn Energy at 13.85 - Aggregate Industries remain a buy at 82.25p - Hold on to Alexon at 349.5p (Look Who's Trading) Citywire Brains Trust picks the favourites: - Radstone Technology at 330p - Dyson Group at 302p - Spring Group at 119p - PSD Group at 266p - Robert Walters at 121.5p - Umeco at 351p - Reliance Security at 535p - Synstar at 74p - McBride at 142p - Acal. Taking Stock with Edmond Jackson: - Shame on those nominee brokers that see no need to pass on information which shareholders are legally entitled to see - I am continuing to hold Dana Petroleum but am also watching Sterling Energy and Hardman Resources - Filtronic is useful to watch for a buying opportunity Business Comment: - Time for a full and frank disclosure about Marks & Spencer, Mr Rose. Other comment: - Vedanta Resources chairman threatened with ousting by other directors - Profile Mark Mobius, president Templeton Emerging Markets - Interview Sir Peter Middleton of Barclays
OBSERVER  - Marks & Spencer braces for fresh Stuart Rose shares row - Leading institutions are selling shares in Shell over concerns about the company deals with environmental issues associated with its activities in Africa, US and Sakhalin Island off the Russian coast - Brazilian and Japanese steelmakers have emerged as frontrunners in the bidding to take a majority stake in the Teeside operations of Corus Group Throg Street: - New light on energy shares such as Scottish & Southern, Scottish Power and United Utilities - Who's to say Shell won't be at 500p by this time next year? Other comment: - Mammon interview David and Simon Reuben.
MAIL ON SUNDAY - Chief executive of Marks & Spencer, Stuart Rose, deliberately misled Philip Green about his impending appointment in an attempt to thwart the entrepreneur's plans to buy the retailer - Bid hopes fading at WH Smith - Citywire Secret Dealings: Andrew Green takes a liking to Shanks Group Midas Column: - Something to cheer about at Sainsbury, but Midas would not buy Other comment: - Interview with Paul 'The Plumber' Davidson - Interview Peter Radcliffe of P&O Princess Cruises - Berlin riddle of UK share sales
THE BUSINESS - Axel Springer still seeking a UK acquisition - Motorola details plans to spin off its Freescale Semiconductor division in two stages Benchmark: - Reality bites for initial public offerings as investors get wise - France Telecom: at the bottom of the Pages Jaunes price range a dividend of 5% could be expected - It is refreshing to hear somInside the Market: - Value Investor: Fyffes, a picture of a good business well run - Aim Investor: Canterbury Foods one to watch, although it may be a little early to buy at the moment Other comment: - Smiths Group detects huge market in US airports for new scanners - Pressure is on Richard Handover to quit struggling WH Smithe good news from Corus Group
SUNDAY EXPRESS - Financial Services Authority shares probe puts Marks & Spencer chief Stuart Rose under threat - Stationery Bay, the retail chain, is seeking a new owner - ITV keen to buy Disney's GMTV stake - Centrica is considering a sale of its telecoms business One.Tel - Baugur acquires the Shoe Studio Group - Motorsport magnate David Richards is vying to buy a majority stake in the British American Formula One team he runs - Somerfield chairman John von Spreckelsen plans to reduce his executive responsibilities and install a new chief executive - Interview Charles Allen of ITV - Cable & Wireless is a natural to consolidate the sector
INDEPENDENT - Leading shareholders in Marks & Spencer are demanding that chief executive Stuart Rose reconsider Philip Green's 8.38 billion offer - Barclay brothers planning major surgery at the Telegraph that could results in the loss of 100 jobs - Permira hatching fresh bid for WH Smith after pensions setback. - Interview John Clare of Dixons Group
INVESTORS CHRONICLETips:Buy Nord Anglia Education (NAE) at 230p - Avon Rubber (AVON) at 213p - Gladstone (GLD) at 14.5p - Asia Energy (AEN) at 68p - Hydro International (HYD) at 108p.Sell Cadbury (CBRY) at 470p.Tip Updates:Buy SectorGuard (SGD) - Tesco (TSCO) - Hidefield (HIF).Sell LloydsTSB (LLOY) - Aggreko (AGK).
SHARES MAGAZINE Plays of the Week:Buy: Matalan (MTN) at 203p - ITE Group (ITE) at 62.5p - Sectorguard (SGD) at 3.75p Victory Corporation (VRY) at 357.5

Martini - 27 Jun 2004 14:11 - 5 of 30

Many thanks to MrEuro for being our Thoughter this week who gives us an insight into his own trading strategy.

As this may be being read by people new to trading I asked him to explain what for seasoned traders may seem obvious abbreviations and trading terminology.

Enjoy the rest of the Weekend.

Good Hunting
Still gutted Englishman of Oxon

rayrac - 27 Jun 2004 18:02 - 6 of 30

Very interesting thread read Mart! Btw, I thought you had retired?? :)

I'll be back, that's for sure.

Martini - 27 Jun 2004 20:44 - 7 of 30

Cheers J.
I have. How do you think I got the time to do this? :)
M

Mega Bucks - 28 Jun 2004 06:30 - 8 of 30

morning all,

zarif - 28 Jun 2004 07:02 - 9 of 30

morning all and thanks to Mr. Euro for his thoughts on his way of trading.

roma - 28 Jun 2004 07:29 - 10 of 30

Morning all

Fundamentalist - 28 Jun 2004 08:20 - 11 of 30

Morning All

Thanks martini/mr E

daves dazzlers - 28 Jun 2004 08:23 - 12 of 30

morning all,,be effort this week looking to get some deals done,,eid is one i like///////any info all appreciated,cheers.

Douggie - 28 Jun 2004 08:37 - 13 of 30

mornin all

stockbunny - 28 Jun 2004 09:25 - 14 of 30

Morning! Thank you Mr.Euro for your thoughts - very interesting
and clearly explained from my novice point of view - if the bunny can understand it, I'm sure the rest can! (lol)
Thanks as always to Martini. Good luck to everyone today!

Big Al - 28 Jun 2004 09:35 - 15 of 30

Morning all.

Still long JKX, MRS, short WHT.

Added AMT at 196p long earlier. Seems to have broken up.

Hope everyone's having a good day.

jj50 - 28 Jun 2004 09:48 - 16 of 30

Morning all. Thanks Mr Euro.

Bunny, see ANL rising ... slowly

Welcome back Big Al. Sun is actually shining today - must have brought it back from Houston.

Have a good week everyone.

stockbunny - 28 Jun 2004 10:23 - 17 of 30

Yes JJ...let's see if (and it is IF) they (ANL) do take off again today,
I can manage to be AT the computer at the time to see it! (lol)

stockbunny - 28 Jun 2004 10:54 - 18 of 30

Ridiculous spread on MTN currently considering it's not a small co
and is in the FTSE 250!

Big Al - 28 Jun 2004 10:58 - 19 of 30

jj - stuck a little sun in the bag. ;-)

MM's having a bit of a shake on JKX and MRS, although JKX may have resumed.

Tempted to take a few more MRS. Watching.

Juzzle - 28 Jun 2004 11:00 - 20 of 30

CDW rebound continues. Oils seem to like the Iraq progress news (I thought it would reduce oil price?). I don't trade much from Mar-Oct (unless it rains for a week), so not been here much lately. Just popped in to catch up on a month's postings!

zarif - 28 Jun 2004 11:14 - 21 of 30

Tom hougaards thoughts for today

Good morning,



There are a couple of things on the agenda today and this week which can influence the market or will influence the market.



The Iraq handover has been completed. I dont know if this will have an effect but the markets seem to like it. The US futures are pricing in a rise on the open today. (I got today as a positive day and most of the week points higher).



The Russell 2000 re-weighting of stocks plays havoc with the market. At least that is what we saw on Friday. Certain Dow stocks dropped a full dollar in seconds going into the close (our chief dealer was furious as we settle Dow bets according to the cash price, and the Dow kept ticking away for another 10 minutes after the close). The Dow dropped 30 points after the closeJ. The re-weighting may continue for the rest of the month, i.e. next 3 days.



The end of the quarter is coming up and this will almost always bring about attempt to push prices higher to mark up portfolios.



Finally we got the FOMC meeting this week which should bring about some decent volatility.



As for the technials we got a lovely mixed picture. The NASDAQ looks strongest of the lot while the SP500 and the Dow got some catching up to do. However, as long as the SP500 holds above 1132 I will lean on the bullish side. Below 1128 in the SP500 will be a bearish development for the index. We are coming into a strong period of the year and I have this week mapped out to be mostly rising prices. You should also be aware that the month of July and August historically is the strongest of the year together with December. As we are in an election year this should be even more evident.



Tom

zarif - 28 Jun 2004 11:16 - 22 of 30

If anybody is interested in attending the Yorkshire traders group meeting which is run by Tim Leleux (aka THE PRIEST).the details are below.

This months meeting is Thursday July 1st at 7:30pm, Crowne Plaza, Wellington Street, Leeds

Big Al - 28 Jun 2004 12:02 - 23 of 30

Long ROK 348p a bit ago.

Hefty MRS trade at 298p.

Big Al - 28 Jun 2004 13:07 - 24 of 30

Long a few RDW.

rayrac - 28 Jun 2004 15:38 - 25 of 30

Long again AZM

Big Al - 28 Jun 2004 16:52 - 26 of 30

Busy afternoon, but the upshot is I'm left with the following:

Long AQP, AMT, JKX, MRS, RDW, ROK and short RR., WHT.

Couldn't resist RR. at the high of the day (bearish div on 60min) and got most of the AQP order filled at 220.5p. This has been +/- a decent support level historically. RDW set off, but got reigned in by the sell bots again. However, some large buyers popped up in the auction so quite happy.

So much for taking it easy the first day, but there was quite a lot to shoot at. ;-))

Have a good evening.

Al

stockpick - 28 Jun 2004 19:11 - 27 of 30

Mr.Euro, Great read I am looking to trade US stocks and I am setting up to do this, THANKS this has made me even more determined to make the switch. As most my problem is work so a question do you think you can trade later in the day and make money or has all the action gone by 5pm UK time. rg SP

daves dazzlers - 28 Jun 2004 19:35 - 28 of 30

zarif,,this guy your talking about {the priest},,,how`s he got that title?
i take it he`s not into god.

zarif - 28 Jun 2004 21:09 - 29 of 30

Daves dazzlers:
Tim aka the priest - he is a gentleman through and through. Very knowledgeable and very good company always willing to help. He is into Gold trading, Fx, Shares and Indices.
I have never heard him talk about GOD - i really dont know how he got the title the Priest but if you ask Bullshate etc on mama they will let you know.

rgds
zarif

Big Al - 28 Jun 2004 21:11 - 30 of 30

Can second that. Nice guy.
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