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Traders Thread Wednesday 14th July 2004 (CROC)     

Martini - 14 Jul 2004 00:14

Martini - 14 Jul 2004 00:15 - 2 of 41

In the UK the FTSE 100 closed in negative territory as weak hotel and brewing shares offset a well-received trading update from Wolseley, whilst a Wall Street opening rally ran out of steam into the UK close.

On the economic front in the UK, inflation figures were in line with expectations with the consumer price index rising 1.6 pct in the year to June.

The FTSE 100 was down 2.3 points at 4,357.0 -- off its day high of 4,379.9.

The wider indices ended mixed, with the FTSE 250 index up 21.2 points at 6,109.4, while the FTSE Small Caps shed 0.5 points to 2,531.4.

In the US Wall Street was boosted initially by better-than-expected numbers from Johnson & Johnson, and an upgrade to 'buy' on IBM at Morgan Stanley.

US economic news surprised on the upside. The US trade deficit fell unexpectedly in May by 4.5 pct to 46.0 bln usd -- the first narrowing since last November. Economists had thought the deficit would drop to a more modest 48.1 bln usd.

August gold fell $6.10, or 1.5 percent, to close at $402.30 an ounce on the New York Mercantile Exchange, pressured by a sharp climb in the U.S. dollar.

Stocks drifted Tuesday as investors took to the sidelines amid worries about corporate earnings ahead of the latest quarterly report from tech bellwether Intel.

'A lot of keys going forward in terms of near-term market performance will be focused on in the Intel story,' said Barry Hyman equity market strategist at Ehrenkrantz King Nussbaum.

The major indexes ended the day mixed with the Dow Jones Industrial Average logging a 9.37 point, or 0.1 percent, rise to 10,247.59 and the Nasdaq Composite slipping 5.26 points, or 0.3 percent, to 1,931.66. The S&P 500 edged up 0.79 points, or 0.1 percent, to 1,115.14.

Intel saw its shares fall late Tuesday after cutting full-year gross margin targets due to increased sales of less profitable products.

For the second quarter, the world's largest chipmaker increased net income to $1.76 billion and revenue to $8.05 billion due to growing demand for its communications products, but sales of its primary computer chips reflected a seasonal decline, Intel announced.

Intel shares fell 3.3 percent to $25.27 after the results were announced. Shares closed the regular session down 10 cents to $26.14.
All in all a zzzzzzzzzzz day and with Intel looking week in after hours it does not look good for UK techs tomorrow.

Good Hunting
Sleeping beauty of Oxon

zarif - 14 Jul 2004 07:06 - 3 of 41

morning all

Druid2 - 14 Jul 2004 07:51 - 4 of 41

Morning all from a wet North Wales. Thanks Martini for the update.

Big Al - 14 Jul 2004 08:30 - 5 of 41

Morning all.

Went long ICI on the big initial drop. Might be silly, might not be.

Have a good 'un

PS - JKX on a flyer. ;-)

daves dazzlers - 14 Jul 2004 08:35 - 6 of 41

morning all from an even more wet north wales than it was 45 mins ago,bang goes barmouth,oh well may look to buy today than.

Douggie - 14 Jul 2004 08:41 - 7 of 41

mornin all

little woman - 14 Jul 2004 09:03 - 8 of 41

Morning all, from a very grey damp hampshire........

Fundamentalist - 14 Jul 2004 09:15 - 9 of 41

Morning all

Raining in manchester - no shock there!

See GSK still heading south - still waiting for an entry point

Melnibone - 14 Jul 2004 09:21 - 10 of 41

Morning all,

Still in the range I see. Intel rocked the markets a bit, but
this mornings drop appears to be modest, so far, on low volume.
Situation normal, then. ;-)

Melnibone.

david 2000 - 14 Jul 2004 09:38 - 11 of 41

Would agree, Melinbone. MRW behaved well!

Melnibone - 14 Jul 2004 10:01 - 12 of 41

You've piqued my interest in MRH, David 2000.

We all did well out of the gap down open on SHEL, earlier
this year, and MRH is another good solid company that may
give us a repeat performance.

Going to have a look at its divi dates etc.. for timing.

I see LLOY is sub 400p, Stockbunny.
Are you getting itchy fingers? ;-)

Melnibone.

optomistic - 14 Jul 2004 10:35 - 13 of 41

Melnibone, you are not encouraging Bunny to go against the trend on LLOY are you?
opto

acw - 14 Jul 2004 10:38 - 14 of 41

Red red wine day. Very comfy with my nasdaq short.

Melnibone - 14 Jul 2004 10:47 - 15 of 41

Hi optomistic,

Since I posted a possible Head and Shoulders in LLOY, and the
downtrend chart in the Bank Index, I sincerely hope that Stockbunny
is certainly not interpreting my post as encouragement to fill her
boots with LLOY. :-))

Melnibone.

optomistic - 14 Jul 2004 10:52 - 16 of 41

Thanks melnibone everything does look negative with LLOY at the moment

emailpat - 14 Jul 2004 10:53 - 17 of 41

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Is this a H/S ?

david 2000 - 14 Jul 2004 10:55 - 18 of 41

melinbone, its a great trading stock bothways. Been playing it since results. Just started playing with IAP too. But Risk Reward on MRW( I assume thats who you mean not MRH) is good, and its very liquid.
IAP looks to be at bottom of steep downtrend @ 3.15-20 area, and could bounce to 35-40. Only IMHO.

stockbunny - 14 Jul 2004 11:05 - 19 of 41

Good morning all - my hands are firmly tied together to stop any
buying of any description - liquid funds not available currently to
take advantage of anything....despite bunny instincts to fill up a bit
here and there..but better not say where, because it appears several of
you are slightly concerned about my buying habits and I don't want you
guys to protectively wheel in a straight-jacket to keep me in check!
;.) - all this gentle warning off is so sweet, just shows there is heart
on the trading boards!!!

Melnibone - 14 Jul 2004 11:10 - 20 of 41

Yes, I did mean MRW. Had a look at some Rns's and with ref to the long
side I didn't like that last 'Holdings in Company' one.

It mentioned that the stock is available for lending. This means loaning
it to Bears for shorting.

Emailpat, that is the possible H&S I was looking at, and for those
that missed it this the the Banking Index chart. If this carries on
it will not auger well for the Ftse in general, let alone Banks.

graph.php?size=Big&modeMA=Simple&enableM

Logging off for a bit now.
Catch you all at the US open.

Melnibone.

Big Al - 14 Jul 2004 11:19 - 21 of 41

Early long on ICI paid handsomely, halved AQP holding for +14 (I think), JKX took off and came back, the rest floundering slightly.

Oh well, slightly down at present.

If LLOY gets <395p, I'll long it.

stockbunny - 14 Jul 2004 12:10 - 22 of 41

Going up slowly....several stocks now showing blue or green from red
potentially better afternoon??

Big Al - 14 Jul 2004 12:36 - 23 of 41

stockbunny - UKX bounced off last Thursday's low, almost on the button.

stockbunny - 14 Jul 2004 12:47 - 24 of 41

Fingers crossed then for this afternoon - good luck all!

Big Al - 14 Jul 2004 12:59 - 25 of 41

Got a few more PLR at 121.25p

stockbunny - 14 Jul 2004 13:10 - 26 of 41

:>)

Big Al - 14 Jul 2004 14:39 - 27 of 41

Long FIB 102 - oooer!

stockbunny - 14 Jul 2004 14:47 - 28 of 41

Seems they have all disappeared from here today Big Al and
you're manning the room single-handed!
(Here's a coffee and a do'nut from the tea-rooms to keep you going!)

Big Al - 14 Jul 2004 14:51 - 29 of 41

Thx - needed that.

optomistic - 14 Jul 2004 14:51 - 30 of 41

Thats where all the do'nuts have gone, smuggled in here, umm!!

Big Al - 14 Jul 2004 14:52 - 31 of 41

optomistic - bugger orf, they're mine.

LOL!!!

optomistic - 14 Jul 2004 14:54 - 32 of 41

Eating Bunny's superb fare you could become 'Bigger Al' :-))

stockbunny - 14 Jul 2004 14:56 - 33 of 41

FTSE now down only 8.2 - keep going.....
Ah Opto - so where have you been hiding??
(plenty of do'nuts guys calm down..)

optomistic - 14 Jul 2004 15:01 - 34 of 41

Been sulking Bunny, too much red showing in my lot.

Melnibone - 14 Jul 2004 15:01 - 35 of 41

Afternoon all,

Looks like the US is going for a bit of opening gap down filling.
Won't get any direction until it does, IMHO.

Melnibone.

Big Al - 14 Jul 2004 15:26 - 36 of 41

optomistic - I need to. For those who've met me with confirm, I am anything but large. ;-)) I need all the donuts I can stuff in.

stockbunny - 14 Jul 2004 16:02 - 37 of 41

Dow's up/ FTSE's up - shame there's so little time left!

Melnibone - 14 Jul 2004 16:26 - 38 of 41

US closed the gap open and is now flat lining up against resistance.

Should be interesting after Europe closes.

Melnibone.

Big Al - 14 Jul 2004 16:44 - 39 of 41

Red for me today, but hardly surprising as most of the market was the same.

Added PLR, longed FIB, lobbed half of AQP and won intraday ICI.

.............and tomorrow's another day. Still tilted long.

Have a good evening

david 2000 - 14 Jul 2004 18:33 - 40 of 41

Hi melinbone, chart worked a treat on both MRW and IAP. Did you catch either of them? Tough call on MRW now, should bounce @ 180 a little. But not sure for how long.

acw - 14 Jul 2004 19:14 - 41 of 41

Fed saved the day today. r we going to suffer the INTL effect tomorrow?
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