Hello,

I know there are a number of you that are not able to access our streaming information due to corperate firewalls.

We have just put in place some code which I hope will get round the problems caused by these firewalls.

If you have been unable to get streaming information from MoneyAM due to corperate firewalls and would be willing to test some stuff out of us, can you please post below.

Many thanks,
J.

I have about 30 mins while at lunch if thats any good?

STORMCALLER,

I have adjusted your account settings. Can you please try and get streaming level1 (stockwatch/trades) and let me know what happens?

Level2 hasnt been configured to use it yet, so please dont try that.

J.

Hit "turn streaming on" get grey inner with "loading java applet"
then after delay
"java.lang.ClassNotFoundexception:com.deltastream.applet.stock.StockApplet.class"
in bottom bar I get
"load: class com.deltastream.applet.stock.StockApplet.class not found"

And as you can guess no streaming

SC

IS that the error you had before?

Can you please press ctrl and f5 while on that page. That should force a download of the applet (it sounds like the applet isnt downloading properly)

J.

I believe that is the same as before, can't remember when but I did post it previously. Is it possible that is what the firewall is blocking?
tried CTRL F5, identical sequence

SC

If it is of any use, below is java console log for this exercise

load: class com.deltastream.applet.stock.StockApplet.class not found.

java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.net.ConnectException: Operation timed out: connect

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)

at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)

at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.privBlock(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection$PrivilegedBlockAction.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)

at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.getBytes(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

load: class com.deltastream.applet.stock.StockApplet.class not found.

java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.net.ConnectException: Operation timed out: connect

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)

at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)

at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.privBlock(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection$PrivilegedBlockAction.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)

at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.getBytes(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

java.lang.NullPointerException

at sun.awt.windows.WGraphics.clone(Unknown Source)

at sun.awt.windows.WPrintGraphics.clone(Unknown Source)

at sun.java2d.SunGraphics2D.create(Unknown Source)

at sun.awt.windows.WPrintGraphicsWrapper.create(Unknown Source)

at java.awt.Graphics.create(Unknown Source)

at sun.awt.SunGraphicsCallback.runOneComponent(Unknown Source)

at sun.awt.SunGraphicsCallback.runComponents(Unknown Source)

at java.awt.Container.printComponents(Unknown Source)

at sun.beans.ole.OleEmbeddedFrame.printComponents(Unknown Source)

at sun.awt.windows.WEmbeddedFrame.print(Unknown Source)

java.lang.NullPointerException

at sun.awt.windows.WGraphics.clone(Unknown Source)

at sun.awt.windows.WPrintGraphics.clone(Unknown Source)

at sun.java2d.SunGraphics2D.create(Unknown Source)

at sun.awt.windows.WPrintGraphicsWrapper.create(Unknown Source)

at java.awt.Graphics.create(Unknown Source)

at sun.awt.SunGraphicsCallback.runOneComponent(Unknown Source)

at sun.awt.SunGraphicsCallback.runComponents(Unknown Source)

at java.awt.Container.printComponents(Unknown Source)

at sun.beans.ole.OleEmbeddedFrame.printComponents(Unknown Source)

at sun.awt.windows.WEmbeddedFrame.print(Unknown Source)

load: class com.deltastream.applet.stock.StockApplet.class not found.

java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.net.ConnectException: Operation timed out: connect

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)

at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)

at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.privBlock(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection$PrivilegedBlockAction.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)

at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.getBytes(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

load: class com.deltastream.applet.stock.StockApplet.class not found.

java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.net.ConnectException: Operation timed out: connect

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)

at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)

at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.privBlock(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection$PrivilegedBlockAction.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)

at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.getBytes(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

load: class com.deltastream.applet.stock.StockApplet.class not found.

java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.net.ConnectException: Operation timed out: connect

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)

at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)

at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.privBlock(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection$PrivilegedBlockAction.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)

at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.getBytes(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

load: class com.deltastream.applet.stock.StockApplet.class not found.

java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.net.ConnectException: Operation timed out: connect

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)

at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)

at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.privBlock(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection$PrivilegedBlockAction.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)

at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.getBytes(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

load: class com.deltastream.applet.stock.StockApplet.class not found.

java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.net.ConnectException: Operation timed out: connect

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source)

at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)

at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)

at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.privBlock(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection$PrivilegedBlockAction.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.protocol.jdk12.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)

at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.getBytes(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source)

at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source)

at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

Regards

SC

Is that tweak or weak? :-)

regards

STORMCALLER,

thanks for that output, ill ask felix to look at it and see if there is anything he can think of.

It is possible that your corperate filewall specifically blocks java applets which will not help anything, i shall get back to you. Thanks!

J.

Sorry....did'nt quite get that Stormy old chap. Could you repeat it?
regards

hmmm.....

I get no response when clicking on an EPIC within my watch list. Clicking on "Trades" works Ok

Oakapples142
If you have "a pop up" blocker installed it will stop the link working. I use google and to over ride the blocker I have to press the ctrl key before clicking clicking on an Epic.
M

Martini, I use Google pop up blocker and do not have to do any overiding, everything works perfectly. Did have some problems before I downloaded the latest Java packages. Also after that download my intersite connection speeds improved so much I feel I could be on broadband rather than dial up.
opto

opto
I thought the default setting blocks unless using ctrl key first with the option to override this by clicking the "blocked" button and allowing pop ups from the site specified.
Well thats how it works for me.
M

Martini,
That is also how I understand it to work. However I downloaded the Google toolbar with pop up stopper and have made no alterations to the settings. I access all intersite pages inc. streaming, of AM without any need to use control key etc. Just mentioning everything is working OK for me with Google pop up stopper installed as some users may feel that Google is causing a problem when in fact it may not be.
opto

opto
Ahh but if you load your stockwatch page and then click an epic does it pop up a new window with the relevant quote page for that epic? Which if I read Oakapples142 correctly was the problem described.
M

Martini,
No didn't open up page without use of control key, then OK.
Are we getting there?
opto

Yes treats that as a pop up and blocks it.
M Phew :)

Mozilla Firefox (free browser)has a nice feature which lets you block popups but allows you to specify sites where you wish to allow them.

Geez poor pop, I just shut them down, coz I'm a woman..... w... o... m... a.. n..., I say it again!! Evening Pop, hope all good with u?

yes! set Firefox as your default browser...it is the best and the fastest browser!

brockman
:)

Thanks Martini - holding down the ctrl key prior to clicking EPIC works a treat. Very grateful to you. You havn`t got any share tips have you !!!!!

Problem - I'm getting up "Stock applelet not found" and can't
access streaming....Can anyone help?

stockbunny,

Has anything changed since you last sucessfully used streaming?

J.

Don't think so....

Just tried logging out and in again - still nothing...

The following message can be seen at the bottom of the blank page
load.class.com.deltastream.applet.stock
(followed by)
stockapplet not found

HELP GENTLEMEN!!!! Please, pretty please!!!!

Long lunch break guys...??

stockbunny: are you behind a company firewall? What's your connection to the Internet?

No not behind a firewall of the company variety, just a standard norton
one which I always have on - connection is dial up I'm afraid

Bunny: you probably should try disabling the Norton firewall to see if StockWatch downloads and runs then -- sounds like Java applet download is inhibited.

OK took firewall down, tried stockwatch, no joy...

Stockbunny, re enable the firewall, your system is at risk. You have had no problems before, so firewall is unlikely to be the cause now.

Thanks Opto - I have done - see you in the tea-rooms, I could do with
a cuppa

Ok well if anyone comes up with some great idea please post it for me
Cheers people and have a good evening!

stockbunny,

Don't know whether this has been suggsted before, but you could try installing the latest Java Plugin. Is this problem on Stockwatch only or does it affect other streaming services like trades?

Ian

stockbunny,

I just checked all our servers and they do hold that java file, so it isnt what I thought it may be.

Are you still getting the problems today by any chance?

J.

J - thanks for your help - I've resolved the problem,well hopefully!
I have opted to hit the system restore on my computer and have turned
back time so to speak and everything is working beautifully!!!
(Fingers crossed whatever it was has now been put right)

stockbunny,

I just got an urge to listen to Cher when I read your post.

:)

LOL ;>)
Ah but if only all life was so simple....

Hmmmmm....Ribs anyone...?

JT,
I have made an astonishing discovery, after the test I co-operated with at the beginning of this thread, I have encountered a situation where streaming data (of sorts) is appearing at my machine, interested?

Regards

SC

STORMCALLER,

Interesting.

What do you mean 'of sorts'?

Sounds like an induendo to me Tullett. Watch yourself.........Your mine....Oops
regards