TheMaster
- 26 Sep 2006 08:53
This is huge get in before the heard arrives to work this morning, the new VOG
Confidant
- 26 Sep 2006 10:20
- 11 of 257
Soul traders -- you might be right - my valuation is to low. Your ten bagger comment has perhaps never been as valid --- by the end of the week ?
Just also like to say thx to TheMaster -- you're certainly living up to your name today. :-)
Confidant
- 26 Sep 2006 10:28
- 13 of 257
Right just re-read statement -- find based on 3D seismic -- not the drill holes
This suggests further away but no worries but I'll go back to the 3 PT not the ten-bagger short term anyway
seawallwalker
- 26 Sep 2006 11:20
- 14 of 257
I was about to say hang on chaps but I see confident has spotted the omission.
From the top of my head;
This is based on 3d, as was Flamant which is a duster.(Dana, Hardman and co today)
Sampaguita, (I'll check the spelling later), has been previously drilled by either Marthon or Shell in the 1970's I think, I cant recall who, some years back.
They know the gas is there, so the 3d is lilely to be a fair representation of what is there, but FEP knew this before the 3d, all it did was confirm it.
So, any rise today may not continue in the near term, be warned, long term once they drill and confirm, it may be a different story.
Still no rush to get in imo.
Now to check the off the top of my head thoughts.
Back soon.
Confidant
- 26 Sep 2006 11:31
- 15 of 257
Seawallwalker
agreed comments with only point to note is that share price has been higher before
news here seems to be confirmed minimum size plus upside way above anything
so minimum easily underpins at these levels . Farm out must be on cards -- if they can keep 50% bonanza - 25% and the 300p still looks valid on, and only on the 3.4TCF unless you get really aggressive on discount rates --say 15% or more
place it versus competitors valuations and here at 125p still good looking
cynic
- 26 Sep 2006 11:31
- 16 of 257
just be careful chaps ...... FEP is still a mini-minnow running at a loss and with just this one success in a totally corrupt part of the world (i won't deal there in my normal biz) etc etc etc ..... FEP also still have to get the gas out of the ground which will more than likely mean a major cash call ...... meanwhile the lemmings are rushing in headlong, even though the price has all but doubled this morning.
for myself, i think i shall sit this one out and stay with VOG which arguably has better foundations and many other positives
seawallwalker
- 26 Sep 2006 11:47
- 17 of 257
Thanks confidant, I have just been punting around trying to locate articles I read some 3 to 4 years ago, and it may take some time.
At the risk of repeating whats in the RNS, the 3d siesmic was shot in May 2005, and has been interpreted by Veritas(?), previous estimtes of gas reserves were not too far off what has been announced today from what I see, all they are doing then is upping it and confiorming possible reserves in place.
Next I have discovered that STERLING ENERGY have applied for a Service Contract for GCSE101, on the 22wnd August 2006.
Why if Forum hold 100% of the license?
This from OIl Barrel some while back
Having said that there seemed to be no big prospects on the horizon in the Philippines, Forum has a key asset in the Reed Bank licence, which covers a large offshore area to the west of Palawan Island. In 2005 Forum completed the acquisition of 100 per cent of GESC 101 (Reed Bank) from the UKs Sterling Energy in exchange for Sterling having a 28.6 per cent interest in Forum (pre-fund raising). Reed Bank holds a number of prospects and leads, the most exciting and immediate of which is the Sampaguita gas discovery that could contain over 2.3 trillion cubic feet of gas reserves and is on trend with the giant producing Malampaya gas and oilfield 150 kms away.
Oil Barrel article
Anyway, I am still not tempted to come in here and I do expect it to be a good shorting opportunity once the froth has been blown off.
As cynic says, be careful and be prepared to bank any profit if it looks like dropping back.
The gas in place will only be confirmed after a sustained exploration and assessment drilling campaign
All imo, dyor nag. etc.
seawallwalker
- 26 Sep 2006 12:09
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http://www.forumenergyplc.com/operations/oilandgas/reed-bank.aspx
The Reed Bank concession, GSEC 101 (Reed Bank), is located in the South China Sea west of Palawan Island. The licence is located to the southwest of the Shell-operated Malampaya Gas Field.
GSEC 101 (Reed Bank) was awarded to Sterling in June 2002 and covered an initial two-year term. Exploration in the area began in 1970 and in 1976 gas was discovered following the drilling of a well. In total, four wells have been drilled to date, all located at the south west end of the structure. Two of the wells tested gas at rates of 3.6 mmcf/d and 3.2 mmcf/d.
This from Forums Web site, so as I said, the find was known about and was descibed as hugew and stranded by Sterling.
Now, as there is an upgrade in possible reserves, that accounts for whats occurring now.
The next thing is, can they make it unstranded, and can they get it to market?
Time will tell.
Good luck people, still not coming in.
seawallwalker
- 26 Sep 2006 12:32
- 19 of 257
Master - excellent spot at 08.53.
TheMaster
- 26 Sep 2006 12:38
- 20 of 257
Thanks Guy's, my problem is when to sell my 10K worth (now or tomorrow morning)
seawallwalker
- 26 Sep 2006 12:45
- 21 of 257
I would have liked that dillema.
That is a sound trading ethic.
Are you Paul?
Confidant
- 26 Sep 2006 12:54
- 22 of 257
1. You could sell and leave enough to be in for less than nothing i.e. take 120% of cost and keep rest
2. This is how I play these things -- or at least try too --- AEN and VOG with similar announcements went like this.
Day 1 +50%
Day 2 +100% -- why more 2nd day -- news splashed over the papers
Day 3 gapped up on opening and then sold down.
So basically sell at 8.10am on the 3rd day . However there will always be exceptions.
Also note both then rose substantially after a period of consolidation BUT AEN is now worthless and VOG trades at a level below where it closed on Day 1
So these are certainly shares to trade. In the long term they may become very big fish, or like AEN worthless. But unless you only have a very small amount of your wealth in the stock so you can just forget it for 10 years, you need to take some profits al;ong the way
HARRYCAT
- 26 Sep 2006 13:00
- 23 of 257
Well done guys! Am not in this one, but good to see the little investors hitting the jackpot once in a while. Gives us all hope!
seawallwalker
- 26 Sep 2006 13:37
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I wonder why the Samnpaguitta did not do for Sterling when they owned it, what it has done for Forum now they own it?
I wonder why Sterling has not reflected this rise today seeing as they own 14% of Forum?
I wonder?
By the way the Times splashed it on the "Rumour of the day" and included Sterling, so I wonder?
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8211-2374631,00.html
Confidant
- 26 Sep 2006 13:44
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15% of a 17m pound company is worth c 2.2m
15% of a 35m pound company is worth c4.4m
mkt cap of sterlng 257m -- immaterial even if fep trebles from here
seawallwalker
- 26 Sep 2006 13:45
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soul in my view, this is a trading stock.
Once the news is out, digested, everyone has had their pound of it, it's time to sell it on.
If anyone holds at these levels, without there being production they will see the profit go.
That's my take.
Frankly it's a nice comopnay if you were in at the recnt lows.
Beyond that who knows where the sp will settle?
I know what I think.
seawallwalker
- 26 Sep 2006 13:46
- 28 of 257
Thansk for that Confident, that explains that.