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Traders Thread - Friday 7th November (EZJ)
Crocodile - 06 Nov 2003 21:44
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washlander
- 07 Nov 2003 09:11
- 10 of 33
I feel one of the reasons we lag so far behind the US [I talk as a private investor] and the reasons we are so far in debt. Hence the interest hike, is because we are so heavily taxed in this country. This makes it very difficult to save. Consequently people resort to various forms of credit and remortgaging to raise finance. In turn this has a bigger effect on the investment market on the whole. The private investor is that much more cautious as they know how hard it was to come by that free cash so to speak. That is partly why I feel we lag so far behind the US.
little woman
- 07 Nov 2003 09:23
- 11 of 33
The US are in far more debt than we are, but companies in the US pay their bills promptly, unlike in the UK - so we have major cash flow problems & they don't. Also they have chapter 11, so the consequences for companies are not as bad as they are in the UK - so they can afford to take risks but we can't in the uK!
Melnibone - 07 Nov 2003 09:39 - 12 of 33
That looks like it could be the mornings top to me.
BARC and AV. reluctant to go much above 500p
RBS didn't make R2.
FTSE still around R2
Melnibone
BARC and AV. reluctant to go much above 500p
RBS didn't make R2.
FTSE still around R2
Melnibone
washlander
- 07 Nov 2003 09:41
- 13 of 33
It is the psych in the US. If people go bankrupt they are appauled for getting back on their feet not treated as a pariah which seems to be the case over here.
Their economy is far far greater shape then we are and they did it by dropping taxes and not increasing it as seem to be the case over here. It appears that when ever this goverment and successive goverments make errors they just raise taxes.
Makes it very hard for the small investors to raise excess cash through savings.
Their economy is far far greater shape then we are and they did it by dropping taxes and not increasing it as seem to be the case over here. It appears that when ever this goverment and successive goverments make errors they just raise taxes.
Makes it very hard for the small investors to raise excess cash through savings.
little woman
- 07 Nov 2003 09:50
- 14 of 33
I must agree that raising taxes is not the answer. You'd have thought that we would have learn't that from when Maggie was in power. She lowered Taxes and the Treasury raked in more money than ever and paid off loads of debt. The current Gvt, have raised indirect taxes (e.g.NIC) and not really raked in any more money than before, as we are all looking for ways of not paying the extra!
If they made personal allowances 12,000 and then taxed the rest at 15% (treat all types of income as the same), then there would be no reason not to declare every penny a person earn't, no matter who you were - the tax forms would be a lot simpler. Think of all the extra money the govt would rake in from the exta declared income!
(Taxation Accountants would go out of business, so it wouldn't be popular, but tax inspectors would have no need to investigate individuals and just spend their time on companies!) Too simple!
If they made personal allowances 12,000 and then taxed the rest at 15% (treat all types of income as the same), then there would be no reason not to declare every penny a person earn't, no matter who you were - the tax forms would be a lot simpler. Think of all the extra money the govt would rake in from the exta declared income!
(Taxation Accountants would go out of business, so it wouldn't be popular, but tax inspectors would have no need to investigate individuals and just spend their time on companies!) Too simple!
little woman
- 07 Nov 2003 09:55
- 15 of 33
Look at BT.a go!
Melnibone - 07 Nov 2003 10:11 - 16 of 33
BT.A is a sore point with me.
Got my timing wrong there and only took a small profit.
I had my opportunity to rebuy lower but misjudged the market.
Never mind, the market and it's opportunities will always be there.
Melnibone.
Got my timing wrong there and only took a small profit.
I had my opportunity to rebuy lower but misjudged the market.
Never mind, the market and it's opportunities will always be there.
Melnibone.
little woman
- 07 Nov 2003 10:46
- 17 of 33
I know what you mean, I had built up quite a large holding not so long ago, but got fed up with it not going anywhere, so sold to release the cash at a small loss to move on. (Which I must admit is coming along nicely!)
My only worry is I'm starting to use stop losses more and more to lock in profits, but have to restrict some to the actual day as the spread first thing in the morning would kick some of them in, which I wouldn't want! But this is dependant on being around to set them up after the spreads tighten up!
My only worry is I'm starting to use stop losses more and more to lock in profits, but have to restrict some to the actual day as the spread first thing in the morning would kick some of them in, which I wouldn't want! But this is dependant on being around to set them up after the spreads tighten up!
Melnibone - 07 Nov 2003 11:06 - 18 of 33
I tend to use manual stops. I don't trust the way these wierd spikes
tend to happen that take positions out.
Getting very reluctant to take long positions at the moment.
Markets are just too near the highs for comfort.
I know that you should follow the trend but I would prefer these
levels to become the lows of a new leg up.
I'm starting to get the feeling that this is the top of the current
leg. May start looking to short the FTSE on strength.
Definitely not buying anything prior to the payroll numbers and seeing
the markets reaction today and possibly Monday.
Melnibone
tend to happen that take positions out.
Getting very reluctant to take long positions at the moment.
Markets are just too near the highs for comfort.
I know that you should follow the trend but I would prefer these
levels to become the lows of a new leg up.
I'm starting to get the feeling that this is the top of the current
leg. May start looking to short the FTSE on strength.
Definitely not buying anything prior to the payroll numbers and seeing
the markets reaction today and possibly Monday.
Melnibone
little woman
- 07 Nov 2003 11:22
- 19 of 33
I'm not buying either, but using the stop losses to lock in profit in case the market does drop (or carry on up, so I don't lose out too much!)
Crocodile - 07 Nov 2003 12:26 - 20 of 33
My new Grandson Zander with me this morning :-)
Snappy & Nappy (Thanks Vasey)
little woman
- 07 Nov 2003 12:42
- 21 of 33
Excellent croc, I see you're still the doting grandfather.
LLOY is finally up, and of course so are the rest of the Banks!
FTSE well pass R2 - but can't see it hitting R3 4420! If it does??????????
LLOY is finally up, and of course so are the rest of the Banks!
FTSE well pass R2 - but can't see it hitting R3 4420! If it does??????????
zarif
- 07 Nov 2003 13:04
- 22 of 33
Afternoon everybody:
Reckon the dow is going to hit 9950++ today??? and then take a nose dive.
I hope so.
good luck everybody
zarif
Reckon the dow is going to hit 9950++ today??? and then take a nose dive.
I hope so.
good luck everybody
zarif
little woman
- 07 Nov 2003 13:17
- 23 of 33
You're in early today zarif.
I think a lot of people think the same of the FTSE - A lot of shares seem to now be struggling to hold their current price! The next few hours will be interesting.
I think a lot of people think the same of the FTSE - A lot of shares seem to now be struggling to hold their current price! The next few hours will be interesting.
zarif
- 07 Nov 2003 13:39
- 24 of 33
yep -little woman.
Just took a long out pre-open and closed with 30pt gain netting 150.
now just watching on the side lines
Just took a long out pre-open and closed with 30pt gain netting 150.
now just watching on the side lines
Melnibone - 07 Nov 2003 14:58 - 25 of 33
Looks like the US markets are doing a bit of gap filling
from where the futures left it higher than yesterdays close.
Wonder where it will go from there.
Payroll figures apparently priced into the FTSE this morning,
that's what threw me and put my timing out.
Payroll numbers were good but the make up isn't.
Manufacturing down but service industry(Wal Mart and fast food);-),
up. This what makes them look good.
Can't get a feel at the moment so I'm just watching.
Melnibone
from where the futures left it higher than yesterdays close.
Wonder where it will go from there.
Payroll figures apparently priced into the FTSE this morning,
that's what threw me and put my timing out.
Payroll numbers were good but the make up isn't.
Manufacturing down but service industry(Wal Mart and fast food);-),
up. This what makes them look good.
Can't get a feel at the moment so I'm just watching.
Melnibone
little woman
- 07 Nov 2003 15:01
- 26 of 33
I thought some of my stop losses (for profit) would have kicked in this morning (DXNS, GSK, LLOY & PSN - I thought nice cross section!) but they haven't... Oh well 90 min to go!
Melnibone - 07 Nov 2003 15:08 - 27 of 33
US gaps now filled and FTSE back below R2.
Looks like we were right not to buy yet.
I still think that all the good news is priced in
and the Indices are all approaching areas of major
resistance.
Time for care for position trades.
Melnibone
Looks like we were right not to buy yet.
I still think that all the good news is priced in
and the Indices are all approaching areas of major
resistance.
Time for care for position trades.
Melnibone
stockbunny
- 07 Nov 2003 16:04
- 28 of 33
Ahhh love Croc. Junior - I know he's a grandson but I like the name croc junior!
Hope all you chaps and chapesses have a good afternoon and bag some cash somewhere! I don't 'short-term'or day trade as most know, but its interesting watching you lot and maybe at some point I'll move into short-term/day trading.
Its a good learning experience in the meantime, whlist I stick to my medium
term trading habits!!
Hope all you chaps and chapesses have a good afternoon and bag some cash somewhere! I don't 'short-term'or day trade as most know, but its interesting watching you lot and maybe at some point I'll move into short-term/day trading.
Its a good learning experience in the meantime, whlist I stick to my medium
term trading habits!!
Melnibone - 07 Nov 2003 16:22 - 29 of 33
Hi stockbunny,
Shrewd move, stick with the strategy that you feel comfortable
with and makes you money.
When you boil it down it's all the same. The only difference
is the timespan between your buy and sell. Be it minutes, hours, days,
weeks or years.
Melnibone
Shrewd move, stick with the strategy that you feel comfortable
with and makes you money.
When you boil it down it's all the same. The only difference
is the timespan between your buy and sell. Be it minutes, hours, days,
weeks or years.
Melnibone
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