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Traders Thread - Tuesday 20th January (AV.)     

Crocodile - 20 Jan 2004 12:21

Premarket Futures FTSE +1 DAX +10 DOW +1 S&P +0.9 Nasdaq +3

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Air Liquide French industrial gases company said it planned to buy Messer Griesheim's industrial gas businesses in Germany, the UK and the United States for 2.68 billion euros. BOC ??

Aviva Britain's largest insurer reported flat full-year new sales figures and said its growth prospects for 2004 were strong. New business sales for life and pensions products rose slightly to 2.377 billion pounds above analysts forecast at 2.325 billion

John Laing said it expected to meet market expectations in the second half as it continued to win government contracts and grow the company

JD Wetherspoon said its like-for-like sales rose 4.9 percent in the 25 weeks to January 18 in line with expectations, slightly ahead of the 4.2 percent rise seen in the group's first-quarter.

British Vita furniture foam maker said annual profit would be at the lower end of market expectations because of a five million pound accounting error in its non-wovens division. Some operating costs in the non-wovens business had been misclassified as assets.

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Aviva FY Sales 2.34bn exp.

09.30 Dec Harmonised CPI y/y 1.2% exp. 09.30 Dec RPI-X y/y 2.5% exp.

10.00 OECD Economic Survey of the UK

AMD (Q4), Citigroup (Q4), General Motors (Q4), Motorola (Q4), Unisys (Q4), Johnson & Johnson, United Technologies

18.00 US Jan NAHB Housing Market Index 69.0 exp.

10.00 EMU Jan ZEW Economic Sentiment 73.3 exp. 11.00 EMU Nov Industrial Production m/m 0.5% exp.

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MissLoadsadosh - 20 Jan 2004 14:01 - 10 of 31

Hi LW we've all gone back into lurk mode

optomistic - 20 Jan 2004 14:05 - 11 of 31

Hi LW
I'm sure its nothing that you have said, they are probably all still out at lunch, or considering buying SBRY. Have looked at these, I feel that they must be a short term trading situ?

little woman - 20 Jan 2004 14:08 - 12 of 31

CFD - At the moment Long LLOY, SBRY & FTSE. Short DJ (?!)

The long term shares are up today - the big surprises are TAD, ICI & STAN.

What are you all up to today? (Let me know before anyone goes back into lurk mode!!)

little woman - 20 Jan 2004 14:11 - 13 of 31

Had planned to close SBRY earlier, but bought instead of sold! They are actually trading in their normal bottom range. (I think that means that they are currently at the price that people who collect extra share buy the shares to top up their portfolios!)

little woman - 20 Jan 2004 14:15 - 14 of 31

Every article I have read for a long time have ICI as a sell. I have mine for dividend.

Just had a look at HBOS, - normally have some for div. but took the gains (more than once) last year and never bought back since.

MissLoadsadosh - 20 Jan 2004 14:16 - 15 of 31

I'm long TAD and TIG

little woman - 20 Jan 2004 14:18 - 16 of 31

Didn't realise who IMT was! Yes I can see you will have done well! One of the few companies I won't buy (not usually worried about ethics, except for this one)

stockbunny - 20 Jan 2004 14:23 - 17 of 31

Ah so you didn't break it as you feared Little Woman (lol)
good to see the investors room traders thread up and running as usual.
FTSE up generally - but most of my shares down, such is life!
Good luck one and all - coffee and don'nuts on the side.

little woman - 20 Jan 2004 14:28 - 18 of 31

US about to open

Melnibone - 20 Jan 2004 14:47 - 19 of 31

Afternoon all, just logged on again.

Had the same problems as the rest of you after my last post.
All I got when I tried to log in to the Investors' Room was
lines of code talking about 'Java' or something.

IMT still looking good, 12p up on this stock now.
If it wasn't going ex-divi tomorrow I would have
took it by now.

Have been literally watching paint dry, just finished
putting the last coat on the porch ceiling whilst
watching the market action on Bloomberg. :-)

Melnibone.

little woman - 20 Jan 2004 15:02 - 20 of 31

It's never a miskake to cash in profit!

Melnibone - 20 Jan 2004 15:03 - 21 of 31

You never make a mistake when you take profits.
All they are until you take them are a notional value
that someone else may or may not pay you for the stock.

Might do the same myself, never hurts to lock some in.

Melnibone.

little woman - 20 Jan 2004 15:27 - 22 of 31

that was fun! Lost the threads again! Took the oportunity to close all CFD longs.

Currently only short FTSE & DJ

Melnibone - 20 Jan 2004 15:38 - 23 of 31

Yes, threads went for me as well.

Testex, was trying to post that I've took the 12p on IMT.

I remember Croc saying to beware that if the Divi drop
takes a stock below a support level then it may not recover.

The way I figure it, is I've already got a good unexpected profit.
If IMT closes below 1090 then the 30p that will be marked in
at the open will drop it below what I've got as support at
1060p.

If it starts to bounce up again then I can go long again and
take some more as it retraces the 30p drop.

This way, I lock in a good profit, take away the risk, and
give myself the option of another bite at the cherry tomorrow.

Melnibone.

little woman - 20 Jan 2004 15:45 - 24 of 31

I've got a meeting @ 10am tommorrow so may miss the fun!

Diego - 20 Jan 2004 15:54 - 25 of 31

Interesting discussion on IMT. What about the big boys who would probably top up their pension funds as the price moves down. The price might well support.

I am long SCTN March Futures.

Diego

Crocodile - 20 Jan 2004 16:01 - 26 of 31

Short Thus, looking for a 20% fall

Melnibone - 20 Jan 2004 16:08 - 27 of 31

We've both already taken a good profit, Testex. :-)

All we are doing tomorrow is trying to find more than
one way to skin a cat.

Hi Diego,

I would have thought that funds would already have bought
their stakes prior to the Divi. They trade the 'real' shares
and will have to hold until after the registry date to keep the
Divi.

This to me means that buying pressure will be off. To balance
that out the fund selling pressure will also be off but the
'Trading' selling pressure will be on as the CFD guys no longer
need to hold.

Just a view, not saying I'm right or that you are wrong. Who really
knows?
You just have to play it the way you see it and if you've already
made a good profit from identifying the situation....?

Melnibone.

optomistic - 20 Jan 2004 16:23 - 28 of 31

Croc
20% fall on THUS?

little woman - 20 Jan 2004 17:25 - 29 of 31

Ok, now off to South London for the evening, be back late.

I'm curious how many people will read this post - so here goes, I'm thinking of organising a get together in South London/SE12(just social, somewhere to chat & have a drink, near a train station - as not many tubes in the area, but with free parking). No more than once every 3 months. Mid week evening for a couple of hours?

If you could be interested in this, please post on this thread.
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