My initial definition.I thought about it for 10 minutes in a noisy Spanish cafe.

A stockmarket ramper is a person/organisation that creates a false market.The
market specialises in grossly excessive price expectations.The sole purpose
is to extract large sums of money from new/naive investors/potential investors
e.g.pensioners/students/unemployed.28p IDD and 50 p CMS are 2 examples.CMS
is particularly insidious i.e.10p to 50p - in a few weeks -before Christmas.
Christmas is often associated with financial hardship.
rgds aj

lol, 10 ot of 10 for persistence!!

This is fun.

IMO

A ramper is a person who promotes or advertises a share or product in the hope of influencing the buying or selling price in the market for personal gain or for the gain of associates or colleagues. The information is knowingly false and not based on the true relative value of the product when compared with products of a similar nature.

Generally, the ramper attempts to promote the product by ascribing to it false values and gets satisfaction by misleading the market. Measuring their success by financial gain or by self-adulation due to feelings of false superiority gained from their ability to lie and deceive others.

A Tipster is one who makes his living, or gains satisfaction by being right, by promoting a share or product, which he thinks rightly or wrongly will be advantageous to the person or persons he or she is advising.

This does not prevent somebody calling him-self or herself a Tipster actually being a ramper, or a charlatan, or believing in the product and being wrong or mislead.

Often these people can be admired for their charisma or cheek or skills.

(I first wrote Rapers instead of Rampers.)

i got caught in a pump and dump a few years ago , following certain institutional advice. i felt completely shafted . so maybe what you first wrote was right!!!!!!

Would anyone agree that CFP has been ramped over recent months?

Hi Baughfell...we should include EEN and MXC in that category as well then...If you look at the charts I posted on the CFP thread yesterday...all three stocks went up by 100% at the same time and all three have come down by 100% at the same time...Now this is puzzling me as to why all three went up so much all together and they have all retreated by the same amount and at the same time. For once could it just not be the general market taking them up and down all together....like how AFD, NML, AFG, MANA, MIO, and all the rest of the resource stocks went up like a bang in January and February 2004.
Otherwise I can only drawn one conclusion that MXC, AFD and all the stocks that went crazily up were caused by ramping and now they have all come down.

>> SueHelen

http://www.lemminginvestor.com

Check out this website and look at the article on naked shorting. I am not sure if this is totally relevant to your point, but is certainly food for thought.

When are you going to answer Gausie's question from the other day, ajren?

Hi hilary,

Please repeat the question.
You might like to post some very aggressive hate mail so I have opened a
thread.
rgds aj

arjen, really , no one is that interested in you . its just that the market's quiet. thats all . no one hates you , and no one likes you , and no one really cares one way or another , because you are just a poster.
but thanks for helping me pass some time .......

Hi bosley,

Is that your worst?

SueHelen/bosley/etc the same person/organisation?
rgds aj

CYH = 1.95
...........
Nov 9 2003 ckmtang :-

....... hopefully it really rise to 10p before Christmas and 30p - 50 p in 6
months.
Not ramping ?
rgds aj

An essential element of the definition of ramping is deliberately making misleading or plain untrue statements to exploit others naievity greed and laziness.

To that extent I believe that CFP has been ramped (though not on MoneyAM and not by Sue Helen), in fact I'd go one stage further and say that elsewhere it has been a textbook case of ramping that has been resisted by the market makers and by the company itself who have eventually prevailed in restoring normality

Having said that I admit to dipping in several times to make a quick few quid.

I don't think that SH ramps, just sweeps people away with boundless enthusiasm!

Sue Helen, WRT to CFP, MXC and EEN. The first two have had load of cross pollenation in terms of several now well known rampers being into both and frequent references made to the other stock across threads. The momentum (the non TA kind) on these two was building for some time before the price started to move. EEN was (to my recollection) tipped in the Daily Mail which is what started the buying - never underestimate the collective power of daily mail readers. I think its more coincidence that EEN fits the charts of the other 2.

Great posts Baughfell.Hopefully,we will have more posters denouncing rampers.
rgds aj

Want to compile a list of rampers ?
rgds aj

See Tea Room
rgds aj

Interestingly AFG also has a simliar trend, it seems that a few stocks that have a very rapid rise display the same characteristics on the way up and down

It may be worth creating a new category of thread. One that only the original poster can post to and see. The original poster would not be aware of this as it would appear on his thread list. It would not, of course, appear on anyone else's thread list.

The result would be that the original poster would think that no one was interested in his thread. This could be a great labour saving device thereby saving everyone else from actually telling the poster that they were not interested.

The Stealth Thread -- brilliant!

Ajren is the most aggressive poster I have seen on any board.I agree about
RAMPING but why so much aggression ?