Kivver
- 29 Apr 2006 10:04
Would you please help me come up with definitive Very Best Stockbroker. It would certainly help us and newbies to investing/trading, looking for the best site and deal. Hopefully the stockbrokers themselves will realalise they have to provide the very best and competitive service if they are going to keep their customers. What are we looking for????
A) costs for buying and selling
B) ease of use of the internet site and phone service
C) ease of putting in and taking out money
D) how does the site record your dealings?? paper profit made/loss
E) how quickly and what kind of deal does your broker get from the MM's
F) how quickly is the money made from a sell deal put back into your account
G) any other charges ie quarterly, inactivity fee??
H) do you get real-time prices wanting to do a deal
I) when you have the price do you have a time delay to have time to weigh up the deal before proceeding?
J) what kind of service do you get from the team if there is a problem.
K) what do the brokers do with your dividends
Have i missed out important things??? Facts and figures would be much appreciated. Cheers in advance everyone.
Harry6
- 02 May 2006 22:47
- 10 of 38
HSBC online share dealing is fairly cheap - if you use their Invest Direct Plus it's 11.95 a deal reducing to 6.95 after ten deals in a quarter - but often the prices obtained are poor.
In the past I've put orders on at fixed prices and watched trades go through at those prices, but HSBC were unable to deal. When you phone them up they are fairly clueless, and it takes forever.
Also, the HSBC web site is utter shite - it often doesn't work at all or is impossibly slow. They admit it themselves and are apparently working to upgrade it.
I have been dealing through James Brearley in my Sippdeal Sipp and I have to say that the prices obtained are excellent, almost always inside the market quote and sometimes by quite a margin.
They charge 9.95 for a deal under 499 and 14.50 for deals over 500 but that is in a SIPP, not sure what their prices are for general trading - it might be worth checking.
I have never tried Barclays but their rates seem to be low at 7.50 a trade after a certain number of deals a quarter, so maybe that is an option for you.
I agree it is difficult to know what to do as there are so many offers about. I did think about Hoodless Brennan who certainly seem to be cheap, but general opinion on here seems to be that prices obtained are not competitive and that they tend to push their own in-house shares.
Hope this helps.
jj50
- 03 May 2006 07:59
- 11 of 38
Although not the cheapest, if you are a regular trader, Barclays is 7.50 flat rate and your online account shows ex-div date, etc. which is useful for the lazy. There is quite a lot of information on the site.
Also use Squaregain (formerly comdirect) who were one of the first fixed rate brokers at 12.50. They have been very good and I still have a SIPP and Max Isa with them - all trading at the fixed rate. Only moved because of the cheaper rate with Barclays. I think Squaregain's portfolio lay out is clearer as it shows gain and loss in s, whereas Barclays show in percentage terms! Being a Scot, I like to know to the last penny where I stand!!
In terms of quotes, all seem to be much the same and very few technical problems over the last six years with either. Squaregain did not like Firefox for a while and I had to switch back to IE but no problem now.
I certainly would always go with a fixed rate broker, rather than having to calculate each transaction.
bristlelad
- 03 May 2006 08:10
- 12 of 38
I/ HAVE USED BARCLAYS FOR ALONG TIME STILL FIND THERE THE BEST ALROUND BROKER////
Andy
- 03 May 2006 08:26
- 13 of 38
bristelad,
How many brokers have you tried?, out of interest.
jj50
- 03 May 2006 08:52
- 14 of 38
Just re-read header, in terms of money transfer ease - squaregain transfer to and from a nominated a/c (takes three working days). Barclays, you add funds with switch. Funds of sales/buys credited to a/c immediately - don't expect you could withdraw them but certainly you can repurchase with funds realised immediately.
Kivver, at the moment of quote you get real time prices. It expires obviously after x seconds but you can then press for a requote.
Dividends are credited to the a/c - Squaregain send you a secure message to advise you. Barclays do not.
That is another difference. Squaregain, you print out your Contract Notes and at the year end they send you a very comprehensive statement, including dividends. Barclays, send you by post your Contract Note. They do not advise you when dividends are paid in (you can obviously look at your online statement) but also send good year end info.
Kivver
- 05 May 2006 09:29
- 15 of 38
Copied from another site.
use TD Waterhouse and up until recently I was happy.
So you know the details I put an order in for shares as they were rising.
For some reason it took over 4 hours for the transaction to go through by that time the price had gone up 40% and peaked.
They put my order through right at the close and for some reason I was charged over the market price, the opposite to the other brokers who I believe give discount for larger orders, anyway the next day the shares dropped back 40% and I ended up 4,000 pound out of pocket.
I can only assume that they do not have enough staff to deal with their clientele so being Mr Joe Public I was not considered worthy enough.
I tried to complain but they just brushed me off with some junior and to this day I have still not received a satisfactory answer, their treatment of me has been appalling, I don't mind losing money as I know the dangers but I do mind bieng treated like dirt.
I am now consolidating my shares and planning to move them to a company that does appreciate the small dealer (if you call 10,000 deals small!!)
So I have an added interest to the outcome of this talking point, I have heard good things about Hoodless but also I am now interested in the Share Centre so any comments appreciated.
explosive
- 05 May 2006 10:02
- 16 of 38
I use selftrade.com, linked to banks such as cahoot and some german bank which I remember correctly was the 3rd biggest in the world at the time I joined so secure. I have a execution only account so no advice, 12.50 a trade, if you make 4 trades or more a quarter theres no management fee. Complete digital look tools for investigation, heatmaps, news, rns etc... Very easy to pay into can do it online as a DD, selling takes the normal 3 days before you can draw on profits, if reinvested money available straight away. Dividends are credited to your account as standard and everything else done by email or telephone. Can also print out full account history like a bank statement showing buys, sells, cash in, cash out, dividends etc.
You cal buy/sell at best, set limit ordes, stop losses, etc all online or over the telephone. My friend Zoe uses TD Waterhouse which shes happy with. Likewise I think selftrade.com is the best for me so I suppose this comes down to personal preferance. I do know however that selftrade has more research tools in comparison to TD. Having said this if you research from a number of different sources as well as doing general searches you wouldn't have a problem.
Kivver
- 05 May 2006 11:52
- 17 of 38
Selftrade looks good, any other recomendations??? facts and figures really help.
Kivver
- 08 May 2006 12:22
- 18 of 38
THATS A NO then!!!
rpaco
- 22 May 2006 14:30
- 19 of 38
Hi I posted in the wrong threads earlier but got some replys so you might like to check the Traders thead in both here and the Trader's room
I am leaving Squaregain because of their cockups on my account and very poor response, also because they are merging with Selftrade who I left 2 years ago for the same reasons. I trade equities and Covered warrants, (and forex via Capital Spreads and BOM) I was going to go to Etrade, but in 10 days they have not reponded to my initial enquiries, thus not endearing them to me, though their comission is low and facilities seem good. (If they are all they claim.)
Can anyone please tell me of their experience of Etrade or recommend another (execution and data only) outfit?
Many thanks in advance
I also added the reasons for leaving Squaregain in more detail when asked:
The problem I had with both Squaregain and before that with SelfTrade was the inability to tell the difference between a credit and a debit, both of them plunged my bank account deep into the red way past my overdraft limit. Then they (Squaregain) argued about what amount it was and wrongly identified a cash transfer from my ISA to my dealing account as the item in question. Had I not insisted on talking to the head of dept they would have left me not only several hundred in the red at the bank but also would have inadvertantly nicked/lost several hundred of my money as well. To add to this they only admitted it to me when I rang them (on checking the money had arrived in my bank account, the reverse was the case the took it out instead) in spite of the fact they had known about a general credit/debit error on ALL transactions on a particular afternoon 4 days before! They would not say how it happened or if they had fixed the problem or what extra measures they had put in place to prevent it happening again. In the industry I used to work in they would be dead in the water!
More recently I had found that their spread on SG CWs is often greater than that quoted live by SG and sometimes 15-30 mins behind. Also that I could not deal online in the more recent warrant issues (a month ago). With warrants being geared the volatility in price means that the ability to trade within a few seconds is important, I dont have time to ring up.
The other issue I had with them last year was the inability to answer a question except with a standard answer from a list, they just pick a random key word in the question then send of a pre-typed paragraph.
explosive
- 22 May 2006 16:43
- 20 of 38
I only trade in equities and have never experienced any problem with Selftrade, they merge with Squaregain next month and I'm told were moving to the squaregain platforms will advise any problems encountered.
hlyeo98
- 22 May 2006 17:32
- 21 of 38
I also have problems with trading ONLINE with Squaregain today...tried to sell only 1500 shares of JKX...but it wouldn't allow me...only allow 150 shares at a time...isn't this ludicrous? POOR service!
Can anybody please recommend me a better broker? Thanks!
Kivver
- 23 May 2006 14:43
- 22 of 38
the share centre www.share.com yes a bit more expensive, but very few problems when buying or selling.
Snip
- 23 May 2006 14:55
- 23 of 38
hyleo that`s why I have stopped buying illiquid shares. You can`t sell the lot in a hurry. You can`t blame squaregain though, as it`s the nature of the stock.
I am with squaregain and did two sells and a buy today. All transactions were speedy
porky
- 23 May 2006 16:28
- 24 of 38
Never had a moments trouble with Squaregain.
Kivver
- 23 May 2006 16:39
- 25 of 38
Snip, why dont i dont have a problem buying illigid stocks with the share centre then?? must admit im not loaded but had few problems.
Snip
- 23 May 2006 16:50
- 26 of 38
Buying them is easy. They will all sell them to you. Selling them in a hurry is very often difficult. I was caught a few times in the early days and it cost me too much. I usually try to ignore stocks that have jerky graphs unless I know I am going to hold for the long term
rpaco
- 24 May 2006 14:18
- 27 of 38
Wel I've had more information and more questions answered by SAGA within 1 day than anyone else. Being an old git had to have an advantage one day.
I'm still waiting for Squaregain to tell me what their exit fees are though
I have searched their site and cant find it at all. Maybe they will answer my message in another few days.
captainmerton
- 26 May 2006 08:12
- 28 of 38
Anybody know of any brokers that will re-invest dividend payments for you at a small charge?
explosive
- 03 Jul 2006 19:19
- 29 of 38
I take back everything I ever said about the SelfTrade platform, used to be great but new platform must have been designed by a computer nerd with no concept of information traders require on a day to day basis. Looking to give them the boot ASAP and would advise all others to stay well clear unless of course you have a BA in clicking and like to endlessly search for simple information that should be to hand on any trading platform.