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SubSea Resources PLC (SUB)     

Andy - 20 May 2006 20:50

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I have been reading about Subsea resources, and I will be keeping an eye on the stock, as their first salvage operation is imminent, and it will be interesting to see what level of sucess they can achieve, measured against their expectations.



SubSea Resources has been formed to salvage cargoes from cargo ships that have been lost in deep water. Only a handful of wrecks have been salvaged in water depths exceeding 1000 metres, whereas hundreds have been worked on in depths down to 300 metres. The barrier to deeper work has been a lack of technology, which is now available mainly due to developments in the offshore oil and gas industry.

Sonar scan of wreck

SubSea Resources has identified at least 70 commercial salvage targets and has identified twenty major target vessels containing cargoes with a gross value of over $450 million (based on recent LME metal prices and contemporary lading records). In the first phase of the companys business plan it aims to raise the cargoes from six of these vessels over the next three years.


In addition, it is anticipated that certain historic cargoes may be integrated with the commercial salvage operations. Some of the historic targets have potential values of many millions of dollars each, bringing the combined value of identified historic and commercial targets to well over $1 billion.




Initial Salvage Targets

SubSea Resources has an initial programme to salvage the cargos of six commercial wrecks in the period to 31 March 2008. The gross value of these six wrecks is estimated at US$180 million.

The wrecks allow for a mix of weather conditions - allowing for both northern summer and winter working conditions. All wrecks are in international waters and all of the cargoes will be recovered through contracts with the legal owners. The water depths range from below 1500 meters to 5000+ meters.




Corporate website : http://www.subsearesources.com/index.php

Andy - 29 May 2006 15:19 - 10 of 382

cynic,

Their first trial is imminent, if they succeed, it will be well within 12 months IMO.

cynic - 29 May 2006 17:28 - 11 of 382

Trials of this nature are be a long way short in time and actuality of coming up with the goodies, as with speculative oil test wells ..... Even having found the wrecks, which I am sure they have, to recover the juicy bits is a very long-winded and expensive exercise, with the relevant government almost certainly taking a very large slice of any profit ..... but a fun one to watch nevertheless

Andy - 29 May 2006 18:15 - 12 of 382

cynic,

To the best of my knowledge, the location of the wreck is confirmed, the equipment is already purchased, an experienced underwater salvage team assembled, and they have either set sail, or are about to, so we will soon know!

ptholden - 29 May 2006 22:35 - 13 of 382

cynic

If you want to know more about SubSea take a look on the ADVFN thread, some very good research on there by a few knowledgeable posters. Your comments I'm afraid are flimsy to say the least, demonstarting a complete lack of your own research / knowledge and not worth posting. For the record I no longer have a holding in Subsea having become frustrated at the delays in beginning operations last year, however I do remain an interested bystander.

pth

cynic - 30 May 2006 08:01 - 14 of 382

I too am an interested if disinterested onlooker ...... My posting was on gut feeling and having seen over my long long life exactly how difficult, time-consuming, expensive and potentially disppointing this kind of venture is ..... If others want to research (objectively of course!) and put their money into this company, then that is their choice ... as is mine not to.

As for ADVFN, I confess I spent just 30 minutes in there a couple of months back but it seemed so full of backbiting, general rubbish and abuse, and little constructive or sensible comment that I have not bothered to go back there again.

Andy - 30 May 2006 16:32 - 15 of 382

cynic,

ADVFN certainly has it's share of wierd and strange posters, but Moneyam have at least kept it civil here.

I just wonder why there aren't more poeple posting here?

cynic - 30 May 2006 16:42 - 16 of 382

In the room or on this thread? .... Other than that, I agree with you; can't be bothered with sites which tend towards personal abuse

Andy - 31 May 2006 09:21 - 17 of 382

cynic,

I meant in the room, we have threads for nearly all the stocks that are popular with investors on other bulletin boards, so I would have expected a bit more vibrancy, especially as personal abuse etc is not tolerated here.

Sadly, the most vibrant BB, in terms of volume of posts, (not necessarily quality), is ADVFN, yet others such as MF, FBB, MAM, FYB etc that do not permit the outrageous behaviour that is permitted there are quieter.

I think a lot of the posts on ADVFN eminate from a very small group.

cynic - 31 May 2006 11:10 - 18 of 382

I am afraid that in all walks of life, noise whether positive or negative always emanates from the few while the great majority remain passive observers, even when interested in the outcome or whatever.

Andy - 04 Jun 2006 22:28 - 19 of 382

Cynic,

Interestingly, SUB has been tipped by Clem Chambers as a "BUY" today, in The Business!

cynic - 05 Jun 2006 08:12 - 20 of 382

So buy then if you haven't already!..... Confess I have more than enough high(ish) risk plays already in my portfolio, but shall enjoy watching this stock and its progress for I am fascinated by underwater exploration and all similar.

Andy - 14 Jun 2006 20:11 - 21 of 382

SUB have started their first recovery apparently.

news could be released anytime, and the price drop yesterday when the whole market tanked gives a decent buy point IMO.

archies - 18 Aug 2006 15:13 - 22 of 382

A very interesting share this and a steady gain over the last few weeks.
Also a nice little comment in Shares Magazine yesterday "the shares should start to
jump with a spate of salvage plans on the horizon". Keep a look out on this as the
first 4500 tons of copper is coming up to the surface as I type. Well thats the haul
they hope to get anyway!

Andy - 20 Aug 2006 08:52 - 23 of 382

archies,

Absolutely, SUB are on the cusp IMO.

porky - 01 Sep 2006 09:21 - 24 of 382

Good news again from our undersea miner, now lifting 40 tons of copper per day and hopes to get to 400 tons per day very soon.
Copper assayed at 99.9% pure.
Their salvaging method works well, and they say that future wreck site mining will not be a problem..
Great stuff.
Cheers.

Andy - 01 Sep 2006 09:36 - 25 of 382

porky,

Good news indeed!

Andy - 02 Sep 2006 10:33 - 26 of 382

Lovely salvaged bars of cooper - fresh from Davey Jones locker!

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Andy - 02 Sep 2006 11:29 - 27 of 382

In today's Daily Telegraph!

SOURCE

Ocean depths yield fortune for Subsea
By Melanie Feisst
(Filed: 02/09/2006)

Salvage operator Subsea Resources has now proved it is no mere "treasure hunter", its chief executive has insisted, after it laid its hands on part of a hoard of 5,500 tonnes of high-quality copper lying on the sea bed.
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Mark Gleave said Subsea, which floated on Aim in a wave of publicity in October 2004, said the company had raised a 12-tonne sample of copper from its first major salvage operation, dubbed Celia.

The company targeted the wreck of Francois Vieljeux, a "very ordinary cargo ship" sunk in a severe storm off the north west coast of Spain in the 1970s.

In its holds, now lying 1,000m below the surface, is copper wire, bars and cathodes worth around $30m (15.7m).

First tests from the sample showed that the copper is 99.9pc pure, Subsea said.

It expects to agree to sell it on to the copper market once 500 tonnes has been recovered.

The company aims to retrieve 80pc of the Celia cargo from the seabed using a giant mechanical grab before the end of September.

It will keep 90pc of the money raised from selling the copper, while the remainder will go to the ship's insurer, Lloyd's of London.

Mr Gleave said: "There were many people, serious investment people, who even quite recently considered the whole thing was a joke. It's not.

"It's a reality that you can take a large vessel and equip it with the right gear and personnel, applying years of engineering knowledge, to recover cargo from great depths."


porky - 02 Sep 2006 13:24 - 28 of 382

A pity Melanie could`nt get the share price right.
up .25 to 15.75 I think she got the 15 round the wrong way....
So much for financial journalists.
Cheers.

Andy - 02 Sep 2006 18:46 - 29 of 382

From the Independent newspaper.
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Copper treasure haul for salvage specialist SubSea
By Michael Jivkov
Published: 02 September 2006

The salvage expert SubSea Resources has begun recovering copper from its first project, a wreck at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of northern Spain.

The AIM-listed group said "Project Celia" had begun removing copper from the Franis Vieljeux, a ship which sunk in a storm in 1979 while on its way from Tanzania to ports in northern Europe. Its cargo included 5,500 tonnes of copper and 700 tonnes of zinc. SubSea expects to be able to recover about 80 per cent of this total, which analysts estimate is worth about 17.3m.

Mark Gleave, the group's managing director, said: "The fact that the method we have developed is now proven to work is fantastic for SubSea going forwards. With proven technology and ability in place, the company is confident the recovery procedure can be repeated".

SubSea shares fell 1p to 41p yesterday, valuing the group at 45m, as investors locked in profits from the stock's recent strong rise.

The shipwrecks SubSea targets are usually owned by the financial companies that had insured them. The group either buys the rights to the booty on board or cuts a deal with the insurer for a percentage of the sale value.

Over the past 20 years, it has built a database of more than 12,000 wrecks. Prime targets are identified according to cargo and ease of salvage operation.
After the area of the wreck is surveyed and the ship located, the recovery is undertaken by the Geomaster, a 117-metre vessel capable of holding its position over the target area even in force seven winds. A remotely operated grab is then used to recover the cargo from within the shipwreck. The Geomaster can haul a maximum of 400 tonnes a day in optimum conditions.

SubSea's technology enables it to go after wrecks lying up to 6,000 metres below the sea surface, which is far deeper than the traditional cut-off point.

Project Celia is scheduled to be completed by the end of the month. The group's focus will then shift to Project Ella, a mail ship with an estimated 20,000 ounces of gold on board worth 5m. In the new year, SubSea plans to move into projects Vanilla and Miranda.

Vanilla has an estimated cargo of 9,500 tonnes of copper, while Miranda 4,500 tonnes of nickel.

Analysts have suggested the group's pipeline of projects could be worth more than 90m.
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