bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
Tonyrelaxes
- 25 Sep 2005 20:03
- 10000 of 27111
Just to be poster 10,000 !! LOL
andysmith
- 25 Sep 2005 20:08
- 10001 of 27111
Driver,
I expected the blatant out and out rampers to have a go but not you, am I the enemy because my short-term view has changed and I've taken some good profit?
I'm not in this to make you happy but to make money, I honestly believed this would produce the goods more quickly but like it or not its not happening and IMO the market is taking a dim view of reduced profit forecasts and delays in confirming deals and so I've locked in SOME profit, whats your problem?
Should I not post what my current opinion is when it changes positive or negative?
Currently I am both, short-term concerns at sp and long-term positive.
If I was a ramper (are you suggesting that?) I would have sold at 30p and laughed.
I've never said that I now want 12p have I? I don't mind being wrong and paying >20p again, with profit locked in and potential to make more again.
I remain an investor in SEO with cash ear-marked for more SEO again.
Cashed profit now being used for my family, cash retained for further investment.
Thats my position. Good Luck with your own investment.
qc
- 25 Sep 2005 20:14
- 10002 of 27111
LOL!
Like that Tony, sounds from peoples visits to ASDA that they are either mistaken or there must be more than 5 machines converted though?
paulmasterson1
- 25 Sep 2005 20:14
- 10003 of 27111
Brandname Hi,
I think Biotec may well supply Starpol 2000 back to Natureworks, and they will make it into trays and film for Wal_mart, and Wal-Mart will buy Greenseal from Stanelco to seal it.
Starpol 2000 product is probably the only cost effective, functional, biodegradable, compostable from replenishable source material for MAP packaging in the world and it can only be sealed without cross-linking, by using RF. It can also be used for a host of other food packaging uses.
RE ASTM, does the law cover food packaging or just carrier and waste bags ??
Cheers,
PM
paulmasterson1
- 25 Sep 2005 20:22
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Tony Hi,
Did you check to see who the manufacturer was ??
Cheers,
PM
Tonyrelaxes
- 25 Sep 2005 20:41
- 10005 of 27111
Paul
No mention of manufacturer. I thought of that, but all the packaging said was "Made for Asda" and gave an address in Leeds - ASDAs presumably.
paulmasterson1
- 25 Sep 2005 20:42
- 10006 of 27111
Hi All,
Back to the Biotec cigarette filters, there are nearly 6 trillion cigarettes produced every year, and this is what the non-biodegradable filters do ....
Mother Earth is Not an Ashtray
Is mother earth being rained upon by over two billion new cigarette butts each day? Although accurate butt facts are rare, thats an average of less than two cigarette butts daily from each of earth's 1.2 billion smokers. Look closely at the ground at any intersection. Theyre everywhere!
Are cigarette butts litter? Absolutely! But unlike paper products theyre not biodegradable. Nearly all cigarette filters are composed of a bundle of 12,000 plastic-like cellulose acetate fibers. It can take years, in some cases up to fifteen, for the fibers to decay into a plastic powder that cant be seen. As they do their deadly cargo is released.
The nicotine trapped inside 200 used filters is sufficient to kill an adult human - 50 to 60 milligrams. Imagine a month without rain followed by a brief thunderstorm that washes hundreds of thousands of nicotine laden white and brown canoes - enough to kill 2,500 humans - into area creeks and streams. Aquatic life at the bottom of the food chain can pay a deadly price but so do the birds and fish who mistake them for food. Nicotine isnt the only villain as trapped tars and toxic gases leach into waterways too.
Tar refers to the more than three thousand five hundred chemical particles and five hundred gases generated by each burning cigarette that include arsenic, vinyl chloride, acetone, mercury and lead. Modern filters trap roughly half the tar while capturing one-third of a cigarettes formaldehyde and two-thirds of its hydrogen cyanide. Pick up a few dozen butts and take a big whiff. Smell the scent of bitter almonds? Thats hydrogen cyanide.
Cheers,
PM
DaZSEO
- 25 Sep 2005 20:48
- 10008 of 27111
Hi all,
I bought into SEO at the start of the year and I am in for the long haul flight.
May be of some interest.
Kernels of Hope for Bioplastics
http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/003535.html
CheerZ,
DaZ
bosley
- 25 Sep 2005 21:05
- 10009 of 27111
"Modern filters trap roughly half the tar while capturing one-third of a cigarettes formaldehyde and two-thirds of its hydrogen cyanide. Pick up a few dozen butts and take a big whiff. Smell the scent of bitter almonds? "........
that's why ciggies taste so good after a meal. don't think of them as a post-meal smoke, it is in fact an almond dessert!!! mmmm. anyone got a light?
Brandname
- 25 Sep 2005 21:08
- 10010 of 27111
Paul
Thanks for that. I think the ASTM only refers to Carrier bags at present and only in the state of California. However my concern is that they pass similar stature in USA for Food packaging materials, therefore may be prudent for SEO / Biotec to obtain ASTM approval on Starpol 2000. i.e. beating the legislation in the USA before it appears.
We all know what the yanks are like, if it aint USA made then they will make it as difficult as possible.
Any chance of mailing SEO to see their thoughts ?
paulmasterson1
- 25 Sep 2005 21:09
- 10011 of 27111
Brandname Hi,
I will e-mail your idea right now :)
Cheers,
PM
Brandname
- 25 Sep 2005 21:17
- 10012 of 27111
Thanks Paul, await their/your response.
Oilywag
- 25 Sep 2005 21:19
- 10013 of 27111
PM1
Surely SEO have all the appropriate advisers, legal, commercial and statutory in the US to have made them aware of the all the pre-requisites to launching these products there and are subsequently working to ensure that they all fully complied with? Or am I just being too assumptive and presuming?
The oily one
NielsJensen
- 25 Sep 2005 21:24
- 10014 of 27111
You beat PM1 to it. Statistically he should have had it
stockdog
- 25 Sep 2005 21:25
- 10015 of 27111
Andy - I never thought taking a profit was equivalent to being a de-ramper.
Driver - no need to be so oversensitive
Bosley - I used to be a 30 almonds a day man, now I'm just nuts- sweet or what?
Paul - are you the bent-double old man with the holes in your overcoat that hangs around Camden tube, picking up butts?
SD - mind your own business
qc
- 25 Sep 2005 21:31
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PM,
Not to poo poo your cigarette filter idea.
Stanelco themselves are marketing themselves as a green company and while the filters you mention would be a great idea I remain unconvinced that SEO would want any connection to one of the worlds biggest killers, smoking. Yeah, Greenseal saves xxxx in energy but we want you all to smoke our new tipped fags! Unsure of that one to be honest!
Q.
driver
- 25 Sep 2005 21:34
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paulmasterson1
- 25 Sep 2005 21:36
- 10018 of 27111
Brandname/Oily Hi,
I think Biotec would be able to use the ASTM standard as a selling point for the TPS, and not just in the USA but globally, as the ASTM standards are worldwide.
I know Starpol 2000 isn't going to be stopped by this legislation, but it would look good on Stanelco to get it prior to launch.
Cheers,
PM