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RTD - Why? (RTD)     

Nitefly - 15 Sep 2003 10:55

Why are we again at 10.5p bid?

It doesn't add up...

Good Results + Strong buying pre results + Christmas online buying soon = Price drop

Then again some companies that have debt for equity hanging in the balance, poor results and bankruptcy around the corner and they go up!

Why sell now at a loss?

Wont that be a kick in the teeth when we see 13.5p 14p again!

Best of luck all.

robstuff - 31 Mar 2004 15:10 - 1003 of 2406

I wasn't calling you a herd follower Fundamentalist, i too was agreeing with you about R Burns - he's the loser. Sorry that wasn't clear. It's very difficult being a long term investor these days with so much info and market/ind share sentiment changes, if you can get in cheap and out after a run, then get back in lower it beats holding. But as long as nothing has changed, i.e the prospects are the same then there's no reaason to sell (only to make the volatility pay) so let's be patient and we should be o.k. What i'm saying is - if we haven't already sold in the twenties, then there's no point selling now unless the view is that they'll fall to 10, but my guess is that they will re-bound at this level so i'm holding my remaining and topping up too - RTD is one to make money on (volatility gives opportunity) and we will all look back in a few weeks time and wonder why we were'nt buying more. Getting bottom is difficult but knowing value is easier, these are good value.

robstuff - 31 Mar 2004 15:37 - 1004 of 2406

Buyers currently paying a bargain 16.25. Getting ready to Buy tomorrow, hope to get in at around 15 but could be marked up tomorrow morning scuppering my plans :-)

robstuff - 31 Mar 2004 16:43 - 1005 of 2406

We saw last year several trading updates and projections and a couple of contract news. We need an update to stop the wrot, the co isn't going to want see the price slide further - either that or the takeover rumours will start again.

petralva - 31 Mar 2004 19:51 - 1006 of 2406

i wonder if the directors, sold there holdings?

Douggie - 01 Apr 2004 00:12 - 1007 of 2406

moneyplus - 01 Apr 2004 02:04 - 1008 of 2406

Do you all think that the price will rise quite quickly when people are buying for next years ISA after Monday. Is it possible the market is shaking itself out for the end of the tax year? I am keeping mine!!

Fundamentalist - 01 Apr 2004 09:06 - 1009 of 2406

Moneyplus

Personal opinion only - but I think there are several factors behind the falls of which that could well be one. I think the main factor has been that the rise was overdone and that there have been a lot of people shorting this share since the results. I for one will be adding more on 6th April in next years ISA allowance.

Petralva

If the directors had sold shares there would be an RNS

robstuff - 01 Apr 2004 11:46 - 1010 of 2406

My plan to buy in today below 16 scuppered but must stick to my target. Are we bouncing along the bottom now?..

javidshaik - 01 Apr 2004 19:06 - 1011 of 2406

hey robstuff - did you manage to buy any rtd in the end?

so what are peoples views as to what will happen to rtd this month. i would love to see a rise but i feel we will be going down to the next support level before we see a decent rise. hope i am wrong though.

Douggie - 01 Apr 2004 19:56 - 1012 of 2406

jd xfinger we're at bottom I hope, price gained and held .5p in spite of near 2/1 sell/buy there is I'm sure belief in this Co. the case made for share to be worth 20p+ still holds good

overgrowth - 02 Apr 2004 00:36 - 1013 of 2406

Evening all,

Encouraging US data today ensures that medium-term positive sentiment continues in the markets in general. This makes the excessive bearish trend which RTD is going through all the more anomalous - particularly as we know that nothing has changed and the fundamentals are as good as they were expected to be when punters were happily buying in at 25p+.

I'm going to buy my chunk back tomorrow (not at the same profit I thought - but I just don't have the right "vibes" on this trade). I'm no longer convinced that we're going to hit either of the chart predicted 14p/12p levels.

In fact, given the volume traded this week it looks like mass profit taking due to the end of the tax year plus opportunistic traders selling like crazy to force a low price (i.e. a bear raid). The year-enders are all going to be out by the end of Monday - but I would guess most are out now. Loads of people will be looking to buy into ISAs on Tuesday and I think that the MMs know this and are going to ensure that these people are going to have to pay a higher price than the one we're currently at.

The bullish side is that there is still a substantial amount of buying going on - it couldn't match the selling earlier in the week, though a lot of investors are now seeing this price as ridiculously cheap and I've noticed some good sized chunks being bought by the "clever money".

Given the speed of selling, there's a good chance of an equally powerful bounce back. This could well come in the form of a 1-2p mark up on Monday or Tuesday morning followed by solid buying.

Should the price keep above 16p at tomorrow's close - prepare for the upward ride!

All the best

OG

Tokyo - 02 Apr 2004 11:38 - 1014 of 2406

Just topped up again at 16.75p, quite happy with that, ahead of the expected rush, small note RTD was in the top 5 traded shares on comdirect(buys that is), so hopefully everybody will be topping up their ISA's on Monday and give this share the push it needs back up to 20 pence.

Douggie - 02 Apr 2004 13:29 - 1015 of 2406

Have learned to check with broker true curent buy/sell price reveals many of trades listed as sell actualy buys gives much better picture(understand why M.A list as)

apple - 02 Apr 2004 14:09 - 1016 of 2406

Douggie

How did you check that?

Is there a nominee account broker that will tell you or is it an ordinary expensive broker that told you?

robstuff - 02 Apr 2004 14:31 - 1017 of 2406

Buyers are back in force and although it didn't reach my target I got in this morning so hope for a mark up next week. I believe we should see plenty of positive comment now and see a short term rise in price.

Fundamentalist - 02 Apr 2004 15:34 - 1018 of 2406

Good news - director buying - Richard Amos (FD) bought 100K today

robstuff - 02 Apr 2004 15:40 - 1019 of 2406

Hey hey here we go, always good news - should climb well next week IMHO

Tokyo - 02 Apr 2004 15:47 - 1020 of 2406

Have just had this sent to my e-mail account from RTD, as I'm sure most of you have too.

Wonder what the long term incentive plan holds for all of us?

April 30th seems to be the next key date, wonder if this share will give us the same ride as the latter part of last year.

Director buying?, more news & announcements to come?

Hope this is gonna prove to be, what we all seem to feel it can be.


Godd luck to all holders


Tokyo


Document regarding Report & Accounts 2 April 2004

Documents for inspection:- Report and Accounts and Summary Financial Statement for the year ended 31 December 2003 (including Notice of AGM to be held on 30 April 2004); form of proxy and circular to shareholders in relation to proposed Long Term Incentive Plan.

Copies of the above documents have been submitted to the UK Listing Authority and will shortly be available for inspection at the UK Listing Authority's Document Viewing Facility, which is situated at :

The Financial Services Authority
25 The North Colonnade
Canary Wharf
London E14 5HS
Telephone No. 020 7066 1000.

Richard Amos
Group Finance Director

robstuff - 02 Apr 2004 16:07 - 1021 of 2406

Sentiment has certainly changed on this board, anyone know what they're saying on the others?

Fundamentalist - 02 Apr 2004 16:19 - 1022 of 2406

Across the road has been plagued by shorters for the last 2 weeks saying that 12p is imminent and has just been a slanging match - they have all disappeared yesterday/today - a lot of people posting that they are getting back in and then moaning that there buy has been classified as a sell!!!

Personal opinion is that we may now have seen the end of the short termers driving this down and the fundamental value will slowly now be seen - lets hope so!!!
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