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Dubious sell-off     

ellio - 15 May 2006 09:10

The market seems to be selling-off on the back of limited bad news imo, apart from the dollar that is.

If you can hold your nerve and apart from any short term requirements to offload poor performing stocks, I have a couple!!, my advice would be sit tight. This does not have the feel of the tech(mining!) bubble at all. Difference being there are a lot of good fundamentals, unlike in 2000 when there were a lot of over rated nothing companies.

cynic - 17 Aug 2007 14:19 - 1007 of 1564

sorry to admit, but ours would prob not go in there, as unlikely to hit the open market ...... we were sort of lucky to buy this partially old about 20 years, at what we thought was top dollar, but in a very good location ..... would now fetch (not worth!) comparatively silly money

Big Al - 17 Aug 2007 14:26 - 1008 of 1564

Why on earth would the Fed reduce after a comparativley small market retracement?

Hmmm.

maddoctor - 17 Aug 2007 14:27 - 1009 of 1564

something nasty in the woodwork?

cynic - 17 Aug 2007 14:29 - 1010 of 1564

it's exactly that that is the worry, and will a 50 point cut actuallysolve the prob as far as the market is concerned while the errant banks patch and make good.

wonder if BoE will follow suit at all

Big Al - 17 Aug 2007 14:29 - 1011 of 1564

Damned if I can think of anything to be honest, md. After all, they've been talking rates anywhere but down recently and they're always so careful on wording, etc.

There's a mild whiff! ;-)))

Big Al - 17 Aug 2007 14:31 - 1012 of 1564

Doubt BoE will follow suit, cynic. UK not in as much turmoil as US IMO and they've not really delved into propping up the credit markets this week as far as I'm aware. They are about the only ones who haven't!

cynic - 17 Aug 2007 14:31 - 1013 of 1564

"Damned if I can think of anything to be honest" ...... so your guise as an honest broker or similar has now been blown!

BigTed - 17 Aug 2007 14:32 - 1014 of 1564

Its not a full half % cut, only for banks and financials to borrow... not sure of correct terminology

maddoctor - 17 Aug 2007 14:34 - 1015 of 1564

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The Federal Reserve, reacting to concerns about the subprime lending crisis and the volatility in the financial markets that have resulted from it, announced Friday that it is cutting its so-called discount rate temporarily by a half percentage point, to 5.75 percent.

The discount rate is the rate the Federal Reserve banks across the country charge qualified lenders - mainly banks - for temporary loans. It is largely symbolic.

The central bank did not change its more closely watched federal funds rate, which affects rates that consumers pay on various types of loans. That rate remains at 5.25 percent.

cynic - 17 Aug 2007 14:35 - 1016 of 1564

here you are ......

"The Federal Reserve, reacting to concerns about the subprime lending crisis and the volatility in the financial markets that have resulted from it, announced Friday that it is cutting its so-called discount rate temporarily by a half percentage point, to 5.75 percent.

The discount rate is the rate the Federal Reserve banks across the country charge qualified lenders - mainly banks - for temporary loans. It is largely symbolic.

The central bank did not change its more closely watched federal funds rate, which affects rates that consumers pay on various types of loans. That rate remains at 5.25 percent.

Big Al - 17 Aug 2007 14:36 - 1017 of 1564

Indeed, cynic. ;-)

BigTed - 17 Aug 2007 14:36 - 1018 of 1564

here it is...

"The Federal Reserve, reacting to concerns about the subprime lending crisis and the volatility in the financial markets that have resulted from it, announced Friday that it is cutting its so-called discount rate temporarily by a half percentage point, to 5.75 percent.

The discount rate is the rate the Federal Reserve banks across the country charge qualified lenders - mainly banks - for temporary loans. It is largely symbolic.

The central bank did not change its more closely watched federal funds rate, which affects rates that consumers pay on various types of loans. That rate remains at 5.25 percent.

BigTed - 17 Aug 2007 14:36 - 1019 of 1564

lol

sned - 17 Aug 2007 14:44 - 1020 of 1564

Not sure what all this means - however, there is something more than meets the eye (thought I'd re-state the obvious).

The shares that spiked on the news have shed their gains as we speak (e.g PRTY), and those that did no immediately react are showing some SOLID (?) gains (e.g CFM). (the two I have been watching 2day). An-one read into this or is it just a coincidence?

cynic - 17 Aug 2007 14:44 - 1021 of 1564

i got there first ....... nanananana!

cynic - 17 Aug 2007 14:47 - 1022 of 1564

PRTY and shares of similar ilk, are basically or at least generally total rubbish, so those buying will be looking at quality stuff that has been unreasonably bashed - e.g. ICI - or the banks, whome this move by the Fed will directly impact.

that said, there may well be some short term moves (as in SOLA) where bears are being squeezed

BigTed - 17 Aug 2007 14:48 - 1023 of 1564

some short term gains may also hit limit orders...

sned - 17 Aug 2007 14:54 - 1024 of 1564

you really do not like PRTY, do you? Anyway, may be a rubbish share, but you can still make money off it ! (the converse is also true and I got the MUG). However, I got in a couple of days ago @ 25 and topped up this morning @ 23.25; have now totally bailed out this time with a CUP (on aggregate).

Is there anything to be drawn from early spikers loosing and other gaining later?

cynic - 17 Aug 2007 14:55 - 1025 of 1564

shut Dow long ...... at least today's gain wipes out my greedy blunder of the other day

Big Al - 17 Aug 2007 14:55 - 1026 of 1564

Looks like they sold into the big bounce. ;-)))
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