proptrade
- 22 Jan 2004 11:27
i was wondering if anyone out there had any strong views? this company appears to be delivering and has just turned EBITA positive after a great trading statement last week. seems like upside to +200p once results are out.
any comments or thoughts would be appreciated.
proptrade
- 02 Nov 2004 12:20
- 101 of 602
consolidation is so close you can smell it. this company is so misunderstood it is almost untrue. basically the problem has been is that its offering is highly differentialted from the likes of Colt and Thus yet it has been tarnished with the same brush.
The will be EBIT positive by next year, they are cashed up and have excellent management who have always delivered (SEY all over!).
anyway, sector is in the doldrums and i can see these pups shooting back up in no time....
proptrade
- 02 Nov 2004 12:42
- 103 of 602
looks like a bottom to me...what so you all think?
seawallwalker
- 02 Nov 2004 16:28
- 104 of 602
Not too sure, there may be a little bit more to go, unless something happens to boost it.
The flattening could well indicate bottom though. Bit more of an up, and it will be away.
I have been looking at KCOM as well, another one that has been dragged down by the results of others.
Difference there is that consolidation is out of the question at the County Council own 51% I believe and have stated no intention of selling the shares.
ESY looks like it may leap at the slightest invitation to a much higher price.
Although I need to look a bit deeper, the signs are there and have been for a while, but why has the price drifted down so much?
I may have a look at this for a short play, and I mean holding for a short time, rather than shorting.
apple
- 02 Nov 2004 16:34
- 105 of 602
Just a thought!
The reasom for the continuing fall may be that it is going to make a bid for another company.
joehargan1
- 02 Nov 2004 16:42
- 106 of 602
good posts above...ESY has been hit hard by the general malaise in internet/telecoms and their interims and trading statements though solid have failed to inspire a cynical investment community. The ESY buisness model is very robust and they have a strong management team in situ. I'm holding on the basis that the underlying value is not being factored into the current price. They just went EBITDA positive and have a sustainable revenue stream going forward so they should start to differentiatie themselves from the dross that has come to typify this sector. Slightest invitation could shift price, I agree....A shake up in the sector could be a good trigger to see the price jump up again or equally a better grasp of the underlying fundamentals reinforced by some more upbeat trading news. It's truly an amazing price for a piece of this company and I think the TA supports a rounding out at the 60-70 pence level which is where we've been in the last week or so. I'm betting on ESY outperforming the sector over the next 6 months and I also think the sector will stage a rebound, maybe slowly but it's also due...if I'm directionally right the ESY well placed to get a double whammy and break back through 100p. Not much further down below the 60p resistance point that we got close to last week and a hell of a lot of headroom for this one to climb.
joehargan1
- 02 Nov 2004 16:45
- 107 of 602
4:28 1,000,000 buy just went through. Proptrade you were serious about topping up then?
proptrade
- 03 Nov 2004 10:10
- 108 of 602
hey, i don't want to brag....
in all seriousness i have follows this comany since IPO and did manage to sell half of my origional 1000 shares at close to 25.00 which were awarded to me in the ballot. The funny thing is that if i origionally had some size from the issue i would have been out at 3 quid!
I was became seriously involved about a year ago when these slipped to just above 100p and then traded them around over 150 and then got stuck in again in relative size as they have been falling away. I have always been disciplined and stuck to basic rules when trading BUT this stock is a thorn in my side. I truely believe that ESY is massively undervalued and have pursued lines of inquiry through the company itself and brokers to confirm that i wasn't misreading the information.
This is simple - They are sectorially effected and as joehargan rightly said above, they will outperform WHEN the sector bounces.
I have never been one to fart about puffing up stocks for the sake of it. I have worked for 8 years at a top tier investment bank as a proprietary trader and now trade my own capital so i feel that I bring something to the discussion that hopefully will find a wider audience to at least do their own research and if they agree with my conclusions then great, join the party.
rgds
proptrade
proptrade
- 03 Nov 2004 13:39
- 109 of 602
overhang from Morley is cleared...good news. weakness is a buying opportunity.
apple
- 03 Nov 2004 13:42
- 110 of 602
proptrade
- 03 Nov 2004 13:45
- 111 of 602
not bad, good. overhand has been cleared and the stock placed out. the seller is complete and within a short space of time these will rebound. i have seen this so many times.
apple
- 03 Nov 2004 14:02
- 112 of 602
Big seller, has no confidence so they sold them.
Doesn't look good to me.
proptrade
- 03 Nov 2004 14:07
- 113 of 602
apple, i hear you and appreciate your view BUT...
new fund manager in place at Morley wanted to get rid of a bunch of stocks. ESY was on that list. Tidying up their books is reason to think the worst. it is tantamount to offloading a subsidiary of a company if it doesn't align with the core business. gotta take a longer term view and if these kind of markets a cleared seller should take the weight off the name in the short term.
mkt today reading this in a 2 dimensional manner...watch and see....
joehargan1
- 03 Nov 2004 14:52
- 114 of 602
have to agree - good buying opp as it won't stay under 70p for long.
proptrade
- 03 Nov 2004 15:07
- 115 of 602
cheers joe, thought i was going to have to fend off apple on my tod!
apple
- 03 Nov 2004 15:24
- 116 of 602
Fend off eh?
I'm looking for positive reasons to buy?
I'm not sure that I dare disagree with such a big seller.
proptrade
- 03 Nov 2004 15:30
- 117 of 602
sorry apple, a bad term to use...lets use a more friendly term such as "agree to disagree"
i do appreciate that you are not one of those annoying negative people and hopefully when these things do turn you will be on board back to triple figures.
the seller is complete and has his own reasons (that is from a broker). my take on it is that the mkt will be a little wobbly for a day or so but will rally when we find out who took the seller out. the positive side is that this big seller is complete.
proptrade
- 03 Nov 2004 15:31
- 118 of 602
one more thing, we may have some weakness because a market maker may have been saddled with the balance and the other players know this and are putting some pressure on. a fun tactic when you are not long!
joehargan1
- 03 Nov 2004 15:43
- 119 of 602
apple....also note that a 1,000,000 private buy went through late on Monday. Proptrade has denied responsibility and it wasn't me either so clearly someone else out there believes in ESY to quite a large extent!
proptrade
- 03 Nov 2004 15:48
- 120 of 602
as long as the market makers haven't been stuffed with stock as a favour to a client these will move higher.