Scripophilist
- 27 Oct 2004 23:40

How would you like to trade a market where you get large regular price swings every 10 minutes in the afternoon, seven days a week. A
market where all prices are set purely by supply and demand, few transaction costs, no middle men and you only pay commission if you win? Where you can freely act as a market maker and where you have direct market access and where you can create a spread for others to take?
Betfair has revolutionised the betting market and created an open platform for exchanging risk on sports events. This market is now viewed much more like a traditional financial risk market than an old fashioned betting market. Smart users have realised that there are huge opportunities on Betfair because they can buy and sell risk in much the same way they would in a normal financial market but without the burden of cost or the restricted access that is usually associated with traditional financial markets.
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B-P
- 09 Mar 2007 09:13
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do you junkies not sleep ??? or better still find a good woman (1.24am/1.40am ???)
B-P
- 09 Mar 2007 09:20
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+ Ian
As fundy states above ------ you can do it as many times as you want. every time you get profitable (lol)
jeffmack
- 09 Mar 2007 09:54
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I assume Bet Angel greens up between all the runners. Usually you can discount a few as having no chance. Can you green up on say 8 of the ten runners thus increasing your winnings.
Fundamentalist
- 09 Mar 2007 10:21
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Jeff
yes it is possible to do so but due to the odds of the ones youre discounting the difference is pennies and usually not worth it
BP
gotta study the Cheltenham form at some stage :-)
bakko
- 09 Mar 2007 10:35
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Jeff, you're correct with your assumption as the software will green up across the board.
However, the Pro edition has a "dutching" facility which allows you to pick and choose which horses to back and eliminate, in your opinion, the no hopers.
B-P
- 09 Mar 2007 10:40
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bakko,
do you think the pro edition is worth the ongoing monthly ,s ???
bakko
- 09 Mar 2007 12:35
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BP, If you're a casual user then probably not but for me it's a resounding yes as I trade on a frequent basis and all my trades are routed through Bet Angel Pro rather than the Betfair platform.
The functions allow me to get my trades in and out faster on Pro which provides me with an edge over the mug punters. There's a host of other features which I dont use, I tend to stick to my favourites.
Harlosh
- 09 Mar 2007 15:20
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I object to being called a mug :-))
jbarlowffc
- 09 Mar 2007 15:22
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had another bash at this today. a right balls up. ever "drifter", started "shortening" whenever i put the order in and vice versa... seems so easy on the training videos :-) made the mistake of trying to recover in-play ..carnage.. either book myself on the course, or call it a day I think.
bakko
- 09 Mar 2007 15:36
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Ok Harlosh, how about a mug then ;-)
Harlosh
- 09 Mar 2007 15:37
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I'm sure every week another load of punters comes along who think they can make money from In Running jb. If you incur a loss pre running it is better to accept it and move on to the next race. You may occasionally succeed In Running but in the long run it will take all of your hard earned.
Keep practicing using small stakes and keep your eyes peeled on the weight of money - don't be too hasty. Wait for the right moment.
Harlosh
- 09 Mar 2007 15:38
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Where are you Bak? You're not answering on Messenger.
chartist2004
- 09 Mar 2007 18:32
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Harlosh - Thanks that is precisely what I ment and how I trade the odds, it works for me 95% of the time.
Been out all day, just managed to trade the last four races, all profitable, I find timing one's entry important, 7/8 mins before the off seems to be the time the odds shorten. I was only in each trade less than 30 seconds before greening up!
Remember all you race traders the name of the game is to eliminate an much 'RISK' as possible.
Have a good weekend guys n gals...
Iankn73
- 10 Mar 2007 18:33
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Hi Chartist2004,
Is your system bsed on UK racing or can this be used on US racing as well?
Thanks and have a good weekend!!
jbarlowffc
- 10 Mar 2007 19:51
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wise words spoken here. only small stakes, but made a profit today on each race i traded today.
Was trading on odds shortening and drifting based on the indicator/money in market.
part of yesterdays debacle was caused by me having betfair radio on for the horse race. I had 200 on the back and was waiting for the moment to trade .. thought I had time as the commentators said they were'nt lined up.. then the race went suspended/in-play and predictably my horse fell.
Iankn73
- 10 Mar 2007 20:36
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Hi jbarlowffc,
Glad to hear your doing well so far. Let me know how you get on when you up your stakes? I'm assuming it was UK racing you had traded on today?
Cheers,
Iankn73
Fundamentalist
- 11 Mar 2007 11:21
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JBarlow
Betfair radio is not live, it several seconds behind real time on all accounts so be careful using that as your guide to when the race is starting
jbarlowffc
- 11 Mar 2007 15:55
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fundamentalist, thanks yep. agree it is a few seconds behind real time.that's how i got caught out.
Iainkn73 it was UK markets I was doing. Don't think there's enough volume on the US markets to be able to trade. Sunday does not seem to be too hot either on the UK markets.(well today anyway) Still made a few quid. Might have to leave work a bit early for cheltenham this week, as i would assume there will be plenty of opportunities.
Iankn73
- 11 Mar 2007 16:40
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Hi jbarlowffc,
Yes I agree the US market seems too illiquid! I may have to leave early also. lol
Good luck,
Iankn73
EVOLUTION
- 11 Mar 2007 18:22
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jb, not necessarily the case, there is not so much volatility in the big meets, though if you want to make some cash lay kauto star win and place!