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ENVESTA TELECOM A NEW BEGINING (EVS)     

peteark - 24 May 2005 13:03

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Ling - 28 Jul 2005 15:14 - 1019 of 1643

A rights issue might be viable.

ptholden - 28 Jul 2005 15:29 - 1020 of 1643

What's a Rights Issue Ling? And why might it be viable?

many thanks for your advice.

pth

gordon geko - 28 Jul 2005 16:06 - 1021 of 1643

REDHILL

NOT SURE ABOUT THE 4.4M PROFITS THIS YEAR ?

Haystack - 28 Jul 2005 16:54 - 1022 of 1643

Over-ramped, over-hyped and over-valued.

Ling - 28 Jul 2005 17:05 - 1023 of 1643

Sarcasm, PTHolden! I am sure the Web will explain a Rights Issue for you. If you really don't know then you should stay out of the stock market.

ptholden - 28 Jul 2005 17:11 - 1024 of 1643

Not sarcasm at all Mr Ling. Always willing to tug my forelock and bow down before superior knowledge. Please enlighten me, or don't you know yourself?

pth

Haystack - 28 Jul 2005 17:20 - 1025 of 1643

ptholden
A rights issue is where an existing shareholder has the right to buy more shares at usually an advantageous price. It is to rase more money. It does look as though there will be one. It will more likely that it will be an open offer though - subtle difference.

Ling - 28 Jul 2005 17:36 - 1026 of 1643

PTH - if you wish to be serious I will make some comments. A Rights Issue is where the company give a shareholder the right to buy their shares at a discount to the existing price. Maybe 1 for 5 or some such figure. This means that for every 5 shares you hold you can buy one more share at a lower price. Rights Issues don't always work if the SP is going down fast I should add. You don't have to take up the Rights and they can be sold because they have a value - all dependent on the SP not collapsing. There isn't much point in taking up a Rights offer at, say, 3p on EVS if the SP on the open market is 2p. Management will usually try very hard to make sure their Rights offers don't suffer this fate but it can be tricky for them.

Ling - 28 Jul 2005 20:04 - 1027 of 1643

An open offer, also known as an entitlement issue, is an offer made by a quoted company to its shareholders inviting them to buy new shares in the company at a set price which is normally lower than the current market price.

The purpose, as with a rights issue, is to raise new capital for the company. Unlike a rights issue an open offer cannot be traded or sold on by the shareholder - usually, if you do not take up your entitlement, it lapses. Because of this, when an open offer is announced, you will be allocated sub shares, not nil paid shares.

The other way that open offers differ from rights issues is that sometimes you will be allowed to apply for more than your strict entitlement under what is known as 'excess application'. Shareholders tell the company (or its registrar) how many shares they want to buy, including any excess shares, and pay money to cover their application. The company, before announcing the offer, will have determined how much capital it wants to raise, and the number of shares it needs to sell in order to raise the amount. When it has received all applications, it will either scale them back (if more shares have been applied for than it wants to sell) or it will issue all the shares requested (including any excess applications). If a shareholder's application is scaled back, he or she will be repaid funds for the shares not actually issued.

Haystack - 28 Jul 2005 21:46 - 1028 of 1643

Of course it could be a placing of new shares with an institution.

Does anyone know what authorities EVS has at present for issuing new shares and for how many?

annbar - 28 Jul 2005 22:19 - 1029 of 1643

H -

You know a lot about the company - you say - so perhaps you can tell us!

Ling - 28 Jul 2005 22:20 - 1030 of 1643

EVS could certainly go that way.

Haystack - 28 Jul 2005 23:48 - 1031 of 1643

On reflection, I would think that any authorities would now be invalid due to the capital reorganisation. It would probaby take an EGM to grant a new authority.

hlyeo98 - 29 Jul 2005 08:18 - 1032 of 1643

Huge downtrend today...SELL

gordon geko - 29 Jul 2005 09:08 - 1033 of 1643

nice start today NOT
no Intention to sell will live with the losses for the moment and take up any rights
their still a decent company and have turned the ship around just hitting some
choppy waters

hope they will sell formjet before they come to shareholders

cash flow stmtnt will be very interesting this time around


capetown - 29 Jul 2005 10:02 - 1034 of 1643

Goron,
Like you i will also hold,no way am i going to sell at a 50% loss,what i dont understand is why such a huge price fall when trading statment states up 75%

Ling - 29 Jul 2005 10:56 - 1035 of 1643

The EVS management are very, very stupid. Their TS was incredibly badly written.

peeyam - 29 Jul 2005 11:02 - 1036 of 1643

I think i will hold this for the time being as well
considering toping up at 2.9 but not sure since support is at 2.24
any thoughts guys

capetown - 29 Jul 2005 11:09 - 1037 of 1643

LING i agree with you,

It was not a well written ts,

Maybee he knew what he was doing when he sold some to fund his house purchase back in may i think,

Will be interesting to see if they top up now.

tallsiii - 29 Jul 2005 11:09 - 1038 of 1643

Having bought into EVS at 3p and sold out at 6.9p a while ago, I have to say they now look extremely good value.

Though following their trading statement, I have to wonder if they are in net profit at all for the current financial year. With a 75% increase in turnover and a 100% increase in gross profit their margins have improved. But the question is, what are their admin and other expenses for this year? The prelims should reveal all.

I will be jumping back in at some point, but it looks like the bears have hold of it for now.
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