Martini
- 02 Aug 2017 19:46
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Bitcoin FAQs
Back in 2014 I started hearing about Bitcoin and being inquisitive I researched it and found out how to buy some, which I did. I then promptly ignored them and carried on with my fumbling attempts to make money out of other things.
In fact, I couldn’t remember what my details were and how to access them.
Whilst clearing out some old paper work recently I stumbled across where I had written down my account details, so I logged into Blockchain and my bitcoins where still there and what was more pleasing I was sat on a 10 bagger.
Now at this point you are probably thinking “Smug Bastard” but no I was kicking myself.
At the time, I purchased I had thought “What am I going to do with them and they will probably go belly up as a scam and I only bought 0.1 bitcoins. Yes, I risked a massive £21 which is now worth £210 as I type.
So, I am now sitting thinking why didn’t you buy 1 or 5 or 10 for God’s sake it would not have broken you at the time.
So Doh! This making money game is easy when looking through a rear-view mirror.
I will hang on to my small stake and maybe it will 10 bagger again and I still don’t know what to do with them, but things are changing.
M
Martini
- 11 Dec 2017 09:56
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Thanks for the link skinny.
Hi March. I have long ago given up trying to forecast the price of Bitcoin.
Profit in the coffers and a small punt left to keep me interested.
Regards M
Big Al
- 11 Dec 2017 22:18
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Anyone wanna buy a tulip? :)
Nice one, M. Despite my inbox having been inundated with his stuff for months I did not do anything other than watch. Currently planting bulbs.
dreamcatcher
- 12 Dec 2017 07:11
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That is a Rembrandt Tulip variety. :-)) Seriously.
Put some more 00000000's jimmy. lol
Worth a absolute fortune - not seriously lol
MaxK
- 12 Dec 2017 20:34
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It's Official: Bitcoin Surpasses "Tulip Mania", Is Now The Biggest Bubble In World History
by Tyler Durden
Dec 12, 2017
One month ago, a chart from Convoy Investments went viral for showing that among all of the world's most famous asset bubbles, bitcoin was only lagging the infamous 17th century "Tulip Mania."
One month later, the price of bitcoin has exploded even higher, and so it is time to refresh where in the global bubble race bitcoin now stands, and also whether it has finally surpassed "Tulips."
Conveniently, overnight the former Bridgewater analysts Howard Wang and Robert Wu who make up Convoy, released the answer in the form of an updated version of their asset bubble chart. In the new commentary, Wang writes that the Bitcoin prices have again more than doubled since the last update, and "its price has now gone up over 17 times this year, 64 times over the last three years and superseded that of the Dutch Tulip’s climb over the same time frame."
That's right: as of this moment it is official that bitcoin is now the biggest bubble in history, having surpassed the Tulip Mania of 1634-1637.
And with that we can say that crypto pioneer Mike Novogratz was right once again when he said that "This is going to be the biggest bubble of our lifetimes." Which, of course, does not stop him from investing hundreds of millions in the space: when conceding that cryptos are the biggest bubble ever, "Novo" also said he expects bitcoin to hit $40,000 and ethereum to triple to $1,500.
"Bitcoin could be at $40,000 at the end of 2018. It easily could," Novogratz said Monday on CNBC's "Fast Money." "Ethereum, which I think just touched $500 or is getting close, could be triple where it is as well."
More good stuff here:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-12/its-official-bitcoin-surpasses-tulip-mania-now-biggest-bubble-world-history
hangon
- 17 Dec 2017 15:51
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How can you possibly suggest with certainty this will continue its meteoric path for a further decade? (= 2027). Roughly that will mean this currency will be worth more than much of the World, which is clearly nonsense, since there is no "willing Buyer" of the Mkt-Value.
Companies like [BP] have a price that's based on Sentiment and some handle on Reserves, Ownership of extraction Rights and "know-how" as well as actual hardware, although things like office-blocks may be rented, they have an intrinsic value since the lease itself can be compared with similar buildings in the vicinity. That is not to say it is valued correctly, but it's maybe not too far off.
Bitcoin has the disadvantage that most-folks don't understand it.
Bitcoin value has risen to dizzying heights, such that folks that gambled maybe $1000 are multi-milionaires... while nothing has actually happened.....
A Biotech company sp starts reasonably high ( to gather Cash ), then slips away as the Phases lengthen, Trial are worked-out; BUT then something happens to renew Investor interest... there is some breakthrough to add the "perception" of future riches... but rarely does this cure-for-cancer ( as an example), mean the World is healthier; as we discover it only treats 1-in-100 - OR it is short-term - OR very expensive. However, as the business turns into Profit the sp starts to firm-up... it is possible to apply somewhat similar approach as in [BP] above, sp maybe it's worth several year's income . . . depending on your view and "Risk-profile"
Bitcoin, IMHO is all "Risk-profile" - it never had any intrinsic value... and now? Well the technology appears solid . . . but then so we believed ( read 1-dozen devices) were, until hacked = the criminals will be working on this... and I read that QUANTUM computers can theoretically perform cod-cracking maybe a million-times faster than our best computers-networked. Could a Nation-State use this to slip inside Bitcoin and drag out some value without anyone noticing?
That's just one fear (for me), but I think the 2015-2017 rise in Bitcoin-value is a pointer to disaster. If folks sell, what happens to the price? Won't that start a "Rush" in the direction of destruction, just as surely we are in a "Rush-to-Buy" phase.... just when is anyone happy with the "profit" they already hold ( er, Notionally - since a Profit is only a profit when it's back in yr hands as cash.). This principle is another reason (for me) to avoid....indeed I would happily work without Banks, The City and others that promise so much and are found Wanting, far too often.
MaxK
- 18 Dec 2017 09:18
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CC
- 18 Dec 2017 09:54
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To me I think it's obvious what is going to happen.
There are a limited number of bitcoins or will be and demand outstrips supply so it will continue up for some time yet as joe public becomes more aware.
Until it faces a crisis of confidence.
"I lost all my savings when my bitcoins were stolen and I didn't realise there was no protection"
"My hard drive failed and I've lost my entire savings even though they are still out there in the ether somewhere"
"My Dad told me I'd inherit all his bitcoins but there is no way to trace them"
"My bitcoins were stolen - I thought they were held in kind of like a bank account but it appears no own actually has them - I now know there's just numbers in the blockchain in a virtual world"
"As the price has starting falling I couldn't sell them, I set a target to sell but it I didn't act, thinking it would bounce. I did this several times watching the price fall and fall and now apparently the only thing I can buy with my bitcoins are this white crystal stuff that I don't know much about. Apparently it is real though and I can have it shipped"
hilary
- 18 Dec 2017 10:27
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Apparently, the Satsuma person or persons unknown who engineered Bitcoin holds around 1 million BTC. There must be scores of people like him/her/them who did the early mining when BTC were 10 a penny, and who are still sat on eWallets containing perhaps 20% or even 30% of the 16 million BTC currently in circulation.
I personally think BTC demand will continue to outstrip supply until such time as one of the early miners decide to cash in and drop shedloads of BTC into the market. However, that might not be for a few years yet.
Fred1new
- 18 Dec 2017 14:27
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How many are you selling?
hilary
- 18 Dec 2017 15:51
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None Fred, but we do have an 8 core dedibox in a Munich datacentre that we've been paying for on an all inclusive rental package and it's not even being used at the moment. I've asked if we can get it set up for mining and test its efficiency over a two month period.
With everything I've read about BTC mining, I very much doubt it'll be productive, but I'm using the argument that we'll never know for sure unless we set it up and try it.
skinny
- 19 Dec 2017 07:40
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MaxK
- 19 Dec 2017 08:22
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EU considers launching database of Bitcoin owners to crack down on criminals
By James Titcomb
18 December 2017 • 4:13pm
The European Union is considering a database of Bitcoin owners in Europe under laws designed to fight money laundering and terrorism.
As part of a crackdown on virtual currencies, MEPs will consider setting up a central hub of people who use the online exchanges where Bitcoin is bought and sold.
The proposal, first mooted last year and agreed on Friday, follows fears that Bitcoin, which is partially anonymous, is being used to dodge taxes and finance criminality.
It was contained within updates to money laundering regulations agreed on Friday that require the online exchanges to abide by strict customer identity requirements, and to report suspicious activity to the authorities.
The amendments to the Fourth Anti Money Laundering directive included a clause saying that the EU may setting up a “central database registering users' identities and wallet addresses”.
The database will be considered...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/12/18/eu-considers-launching-database-bitcoin-owners-crack-criminals/
Fred1new
- 19 Dec 2017 09:42
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Hil.
If I understood what you are up to I might agree with your decision.
I have an appointment with my grandson later and will ask him.
HARRYCAT
- 19 Dec 2017 09:56
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Chap from CoinShare on CNBC advising investors look at other cryptocurrencies so as to spread the risk:
1) Litecoin (LTC)
2) Ethereum (ETH)
3) Zcash (ZEC)
4) Dash. ...
5) Ripple (XRP)
6) Monero (XMR)
CC
- 19 Dec 2017 11:11
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Bitcoin down nearly 10% in the last hour.
Claret Dragon
- 19 Dec 2017 11:41
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XTB Closing all CFD Trading from today on Crypto currencies. All open trades closed in New Year.
hangon
- 19 Dec 2017 11:55
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All good points, yet none that really pushes up the price//value of BTC. That reports of HDD failure wipe out yr savings must be wrong.... yet this isn't the first time it's been suggested.
The EU possibility of a "Register" would eliminate this (presumably?), and would collar the Criminals.... This is similar to the Banks saying their losses on Fraud are "only 1%" -so they let it continue.... yet they are funding criminal behaviour and should at least be fined an amount equal ( or double?) this amount to assist law-enforcement.
Then there was a Report that suggested the energy used to maintain the computers was becoming silly..... ( Anyone? ).... so that is also growing exponentially, if punters are to be believed.
AFAIK there is no limit to the number of Bitcoins... they are in effect the prime numbers which are generated by computers - the trouble being that as the prime numbers are maybe a million-digits long.... finding the next one is mighty troublesome, since every "new-number" has to tested for division by every number that's less. I think ( but don't know), this is where the computing-power is being used. As Bitcoin numbers increase their price rises, maybe in part due to the "cost of mining" - so, it's unlike anything else on earth....
That's where the problem lies IMHO - how can anyone put a "Value" on something so "Will-O'-the-Wisp" -
Er,
Cryptobabble = bargepoles