cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
Chris Carson
- 20 Dec 2012 15:43
- 10274 of 21973
Moved my stop on UKX short to entry, haven't got a clue where it's going :O)
Chris Carson
- 20 Dec 2012 17:57
- 10275 of 21973
That's me stopped out for nowt.
cynic
- 20 Dec 2012 21:20
- 10276 of 21973
hard work, and was fortunate to make a modest turn on Dow this evening ..... closed out now at a reasonable profit ... it would have been more had i waited another 15 minutes, but who cares
skinny
- 21 Dec 2012 06:58
- 10277 of 21973
Dow currently 13,148/13,154
FTSE 5,934/5,940
US cancels vote on Boehner's fiscal cliff 'Plan B'
US Republicans have cancelled a tax vote in Congress, less than two weeks before a deadline for budget reform.
Republican House speaker John Boehner proposed the bill, which would have raised taxes on high earners. But right-leaning Republicans rejected it.
Analysts say the rejection has weakened Mr Boehner's position in negotiations with the White House.
Politicians need to agree fiscal rules by 1 January, or steep tax rises and deep spending cuts will take effect.
cynic
- 21 Dec 2012 07:19
- 10278 of 21973
wow! glad i had the sense to shut dow long before bed last night .... shame i didn't reverse it too! ..... just shorted ftse as i'm sure -25 (as it stands) will be much greater later .... ftse 250 will probably drop far more but that index not yet open for trading
Chris Carson
- 21 Dec 2012 08:07
- 10279 of 21973
Damn!!!!! The fine art of kicking yourself :O) Could have equally gone the other way though, such is the casino of playing the indeces. Well done to those who had the battle to stay short.
cynic
- 21 Dec 2012 08:16
- 10280 of 21973
one could say that it also shows the danger of leaving certain positions open overnight ..... and stops, guaranateed or otherwise, are all very fine, except that stock indices have a nasty habit of spiking momentarily
skinny
- 21 Dec 2012 08:20
- 10281 of 21973
Just had a small long @13,170 - it looks like the fall last night hit 13,019 @01.15.
cynic
- 21 Dec 2012 08:23
- 10282 of 21973
about right, but when i checked in at about 07:00 this morning Dow could have been traded about 30 points lower ..... all a bit "whizzy" isn't it :-)
ahoj
- 21 Dec 2012 08:25
- 10283 of 21973
Isn't Obama in a better position now?
cynic
- 21 Dec 2012 08:28
- 10284 of 21973
probably, and for sure this nonsense will be resolved prior to armageddon, but the markets will react to every nuance and twist until then
Toya
- 21 Dec 2012 08:50
- 10285 of 21973
I'm staying well away from it, for that reason - would need to be near my screen, and have no wish to be tied to my computer all day
cynic
- 21 Dec 2012 09:08
- 10286 of 21973
not when you can be tied to the bedposts!
Shortie
- 21 Dec 2012 09:19
- 10287 of 21973
I'm still short FTSE and DOW rolling over daily, both have now swung to profit.
skinny
- 21 Dec 2012 09:40
- 10288 of 21973
GBP Current Account -12.8B consensus -14.1B previous -17.4B
GBP Public Sector Net Borrowing 15.3B consensus 14.3B previous 6.0B
GBP Final GDP q/q 0.9% consensus 1.0% previous 1.0%
GBP Index of Services 3m/3m 1.1% consensus 1.1% previous 1.2%
GBP Revised Business Investment q/q 3.8% consensus 3.5% previous 3.7%
cynic
- 21 Dec 2012 10:44
- 10289 of 21973
ok you smartarses - where do we go from here (Dow = 13122 = -187 and FTSE = 5900 = -61 and FTSE 250 = 12300 = -125)?
skinny
- 21 Dec 2012 10:45
- 10290 of 21973
If we are still here after 11:12 - I suggest the pub!
cynic
- 21 Dec 2012 11:05
- 10291 of 21973
i've got to drive down to B-on-A this afternoon, so i'll keep the bibulation until i get there!
Shortie
- 21 Dec 2012 12:02
- 10292 of 21973
Well we're still here and I'm still short, FTSE to test 5900 support, DOW 13115 support held and I think it'll test again today.

skinny
- 21 Dec 2012 12:04
- 10293 of 21973
Thanks for the charts Shortie - I'll hold my albeit small, long for now, on the assumption that as the World didn't end at 11:12, the yanks will make the right noises at somepoint soon.