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qc,most people who "jump ship" do so for financial reasons, and rightly so, i`ve never seen a man become rich by sitting idle, why sit and watch your hard earned cash melt away in front of your eyes ? seo can/will be a good investment sometime but as a lot of people have said repeatedly the valuation/sp is too high .Well done to the "ship jumpers" ,cut a loss run a profit, there will be other opportunities to climb back aboard .

been to birmingham today i am 99% sure of a rns tomorrow but no clue as to what it could be. howard white not bothered at sp drop but confident that asda will do close to 200 conversions, he points to only july 27 being the start of the 12 month exclusive deal which has just passed 2 months. very excited on biotec and is seems that thay are concentrating 100% ON IT. hopefully it will be more greenseal orders which is the reason the sp is dipping.

Bonsoir Frenchy.

All I meant was that the valuation of an sp of 30p, was on the same company that stands at 15p today.In my opinion, 30p was well overvalued. I dont consider the price today overvalued for whats in the pipeline. I'm no ramper - trust me. From what I can research and what I have heard lead me to the conclusion that this share is undervalued, esp when the next RNS comes out, hopefully stating US progress.

I just feel frustrated seeing people jump ship so easily and not thinking straight! Ah well, it aint half fun though either way. I love it! ;)

ssanebs

I totally agree with you. RNS is soon I'm sure, before the American Forum on Sustainable Packaging I would think.

Sorry, I just don't get this. You all did your research and thought 10p, 15p, 20p, 25p and 30p was a good investment on the long term prospects that you researched. If nothing has changed in the long-term then why sell now and risk missing the long term profits that were the reason that 90% of us went in for in the first place!

Frankly, all I see is impatience and people that did no research and were quite happy to believe PM's predictions now turning because the doom and gloom brigade are in town.

Good luck to all :-)

8:1 14.75 : 15 and 489k : 70k

Lincoln - I asked the same question not so long ago before I trialled level 2
8:1

This shows that there are currently 8 market makers on the bis and willing to buy your shares with only 1 on the offer who is willing to sell to you

14.75 : 15 is the current bid and offer price

489k ; 70k
is the number of shares (470,000) that the 8 MM's between them are showing for sale and 70,000 is the number that are on offer to be sold.

All of this is as shown on level 2 of the SETS system (Stock Exchanfe Trading System).

BUT - not all market makers trade via sets and therefore not all trades will be bought or sold via the SETS system - therefore it is indicative.

If you are buying - then 8:1 is good as this usually indicates that the price is likely to move up - so buy now before it ticks up. Similarly 8:1 is not so good if you are selling cos it shows that there is some depth there and the price is not likely to move for a while.

All of this is indicative - as the market can often catch yoyu out by moving quickly in either direction

Hope that helps

baza

Baza Hi,

8:1 so 8 MM's want stock and 1 doesn't, they are willing to take 489,000 shares off you, and only sell you 70,000 in one trade, so basically a monster of a tree shake ....

So ssanebs has been to the show, and suggests an RNS tomorrow, if there is, the MM's got there first ....

Cheers,
PM

This fall totally predictable as I tried to point out last week and if I hadn't drip-sold my holding for profit from 21p down to 18p I would be nursing a bigger loss of potential profit. I did my own analysis of the current situation and the affect that could have on the short-term share price. Head ruled heart.
The "potential" has not changed however SEO no longer trades on potential since the market expected major deals and raised cash on the back of it. Last year, SEO traded at 4-6p as a loss-making, no profit in sight company with some good and potentially profitable ideas. At the start of the year the share traded with the hope and hype of thousands of Greenseal conversions on both sides of the pond and most investors hoped this would come true therefore holding on even as the sp fell back from touching 30p as the news would be a matter of time. However and it pains me to say so, this has not happened and in making my judgement you needed to look no further than the brokers forecasts continually being reduced and taking the sp with it. Current EPS for 2006 is 0.47p, down from 0.75p a few months ago and 0.9p at its peak. By my calculations that assumes the 200 Asda conversions will be done but I have my own doubts about that being achieved within the 12 months. Each to their own choice here, but I am not buying back in until a clearer picture emerges of Greenseal progress and potential profit from any ground-breaking Starpol deal otherwise SEO sp looks like following the BPRG story, how ironic. I hope that I am proved wrong but my head is firmly out of the clouds, not buried in the sand and my profit is in the bank. Good Luck.

Well I'm giving it till next week then I'm out (at a loss!) if no news comes out...

I'm just wondering whether the directors actually give a **** about support for the sp right now? Sorry but my view has changed somewhat over the past month. :o(

It hurts like hell to see the SP drop, no doubt about it, especially when it gets down so close to your average purchase price and you could soon see a net paper loss on your investment.

However, as many posters have said today, the likelihood of 1.40 in 5 years is why I'm in. Don't tell me the intrinsic value of the company is any less today than it was last week, moth or quarter. Far from it. Look at the breadth of business in prospect and the quality of the management. The market perception is showing no more than very average volatility for a share at this stage of development of what is in effect an entirely new business since 2001 or 2 (whenever?).

It's biggest risk is running our of cash to sustain itself through developing too fast whilst it endures the inevitable struggle all innovative companies face to turn the wallets of prospective clients toward its new products - most new businesses fold for this reason.

However, we see a well-paced development and adequate cash resources and the authority to raise more as/when I am sure it will need it to bring some of its work to market. But this is a low capital risk business - developing IP which it then markets via jv's or third party deals who manufacture and distribute. So its fund-raising powers I see as more likely to be used for acquisition (viz. Biotec). By gaining prior authority to raise more funds, SEO can be a little more opportunisitic and aggressive about juicy targets it sees will fit as another piece of the jigsaw.

I really really hope the SP goes back up again soon, so I feel warm and cosy inside. But as an investor, it is essential to buy the company, not trade the share.

sd

The only sensible thing thats changed from the heady heights of June/July is that we are 3-4 months closer to any US deal.

Markus Hi,

E-Mail Howard if thats what you think, I did earlier and I have my reply, which echo's my thoughts on the drop, and those selling out.

As I said, I am not selling ANY SEO stock below 20.

Cheers,
PM

I expect a slating again but I don't give a damn, yes I thought this would be successful very quickly but when reality bites you have to be big enough to stand-up and make a judgement even if it goes against all your previous hopes and beliefs. At least I posted my actions, another poster on these threads with more experience and respect than me has on at least two occasions talked a share up with sound reasoning and then when the situation changes said sod all until after the event & then admitted selling out before the big drop.
Over the last month I became aware in my mind of a potential problem in the market for SEO and its share price due to lack of progress with Greenseal, the very reason that the sp climbed so high in the first place and although perhaps Sham and ii go the wrong way about it, they are fundamentally right, if SEO cannot turn the potential into profit, the sp will be hit very hard and even though I still believe that long-term SEO will come good, I'd rather have the cash right now and buy back in when the dust settles. I doubt that I'll have to buy back in above 20p now.
PM can quote all the potential revenue streams with loads of zero's on the end of big numbers but until a fraction of this starts appearing on the balance sheet it will remain potential. Now that the sp is in free-fall it could take some stopping without a major deal being announced that is a deal and not an "anticipated level of trading". The market needs potential profit figures backed up with real deals.
Sorry folks if the way I see it goes against your hopes and beliefs but thats the way it is, I've got my profit and will re-invest in SEO at the appropriate time.
This is the second time I've taken profit on a share this year to be criticised on these boards, previously selling MMG in March at 270p as over-valued. I also tipped that at 59p but recognised 270p on current news was too much and although that went against the general hype who cares, the cash was taken and then the sp fell to a level that the share is currently worth which is half of that.
Today MMG raised 10m at 135p. Never be afraid to lock-in a profit.

pm1

are you saying that HW e-mailed back from the show today

Come on that big deal, rescue the sp, prevent investor losses and prove that the Stanelco Management can deliver the goods. SEO has the portfolio of products & ideas to change many aspects of packaging for the future, all we need are the deals to become reality with retailers. I am desperately hoping that this comes good and am prepared to re-invest at the right time.

ssanebs - did you see a suspicious looking geezer with a worried look on his face hanging around the SEO stand, by any chance?

ssanebs Hi,

Nope, his E-Mail arrived at 7:30 pm ....

Cheers,
PM

For any interested parties TB made no reference to SEO in his weekly e-mail update. So at least he has not as yet issued the sell command.

QC Hi,

And his buy max-price remains 18p ?

Cheers,
PM

Mad Pad Hi,

My website is at a standstill for the mo', my employer has been bought out, and I am doing 12 hour days and the weekends, so that all is present and correct for the live takeover date of next monday.

The work has kept me off the BB for a bit, had an early night last night, not long after I got home, and heading for bed tonight very soon, as I have to be in at 7:00am tomorrow to kick some butt :))))

Cheers,
PM