Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Yes while the rest of us have to live with the results of
their incompetence and bad judgement's and personnel ideologies....


"No different from what most of the 'Con' Party/Government have been saying"

Yes that's because Osborne is a Tory, so his claim of getting borrowing
under control has been a Tory policy...A failed one..

And so to spuriously claim that households will be worse off by an
certain amount of money in 14 years in the future, to justisfy staying in
a corrupt, undemocratic entity is a blatant lie...

What you fail to grasp or admit is that "Con" servative policies actioned by whatever Government over the last 36 years at least have led to deep recessions.

Easier and dishonest to try blame someone else.

so any decisions that were poor with hindsight, made by whatever flavour of gov't, you choose to lay at the door of the conservatives
that's interesting logic even for you

Not interesting at all Alf.. just a matter of evidential history.

you really do talk rubbish
how can a poor decision made by a labour gov't be the fault of the conservatives?
try something simple like explaining away the sale of our gold reserves

There's a Burnley man named Stan
Who despite the best efforts we can
Fails to explain
Why Labour has no blame
and continues to claim its Con man

Anon.

Read again and don't be such a nonse.. and then think if you can.

i have and either you don't write what you mean or you don't mean what you write!
therefore kindly elucidate for the benefit of all

No you have not otherwise you would not be asking damn stupid questions and wasting my time.

Once again:

What you fail to grasp or admit is that "Con" servative policies actioned by whatever Government over the last 36 years at least have led to deep recessions.

Easier and dishonest to try blame someone else.

Manuel.

Try self-education.

Then you can set your own pace.

Starter.

Maudling 1962 and the wreckage he left.

Don't bother with his business dealings.

you two, pinky and perky, are truly priceless ....... never mind; you just carry on if it keeps you amused

perhaps bill and ben would be more apposite

Oh belt up bird brain.. and that's an insult to wild life.

Stan evidently wants to go back to the days of Jim Callaghan, the winter of discontent and the double digit inflation. Happy days.

oh that was the conservatives fault as well; didn't you know?

Have a look at the mess left by the con artists in 1962 and the little note Maudling left behind him.

Mind he might have been more interest in his other affairs.

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ah yes, and in what a terrible state the banks were in 1841 too, with a heavy suicide rate particularly among the wool weavers

now who can we blame for that?

and we mustn't forget that last outbreak of plague in england between 1906 and 1918, nor that massive asian flu epidemic in 1957/58

surely we can blame some gov't (in)action for both of those?

You don't have to go as far back as 1962 for a losing party to leave a note..
It happened in 2010 when Labour got kicked out for
the desertion and betrayal of the indigenous working people.....