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Rod Hi,

If they say nothing, it means they haven't changed their stance, which is buy up to 25p, with a target of 50p.

Cheers,
PM

i admire peoples resolve saying nothing has changed - but it had - even with 200 Asda orders confirmed the price is only good for 8p IMO - nothing more - what has changed is there is no 1000 orders this year - there is not even 200 this year - and the SE0 year end is 31 October -

SE0 have no obligation to update the market on changes - they have never claimed confirmed orders - or confirmed future orders - i have posted many times - forward looking statements - require no correction - no news release to change them - the wording - expect - hope for - anticipate and all other forward looking words mean nothing - they have no recourse if it does not happen -

in the US all company statements must have a disclaimer on forward looking wording - here is an example from BPRG - sadly the UK does not have this rule - and rampers use this to their advantage -

Forward-Looking Information.

The Ordinary Shares of BioProgress plc are registered under the US Securities
and Exchange Act of 1934. To the extent that this announcement contains certain
'forward-looking statements' within the meaning of the Private Securities
Litigation Reform Act of 1995, this paragraph applies. These statements are
based on management's current expectations and are subject to uncertainty and
changes in circumstances. Actual results may vary materially from the
expectations contained in the forward-looking statements. The forward-looking
statements in this release include statements addressing future financial and
operating results and the timing and benefits of the reorganisation. Detailed
information about factors pertinent to the business of the company that could
cause actual results to differ is set forth in the Company's filings with the
Securities and Exchange Commission. The Company is under no obligation to (and expressly disclaim any such obligation to) update or alter its forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
This announcement is for information only and does not constitute an offer or
invitation to acquire or dispose of any securities or investment advice. The
distribution of the announcement and/or issue of securities in certain
jurisdictions may be restricted by law. Persons into whose possession this
announcement comes are required to inform themselves about and to observe such
restrictions.

What a load of dribble, how can anyone say "If you take profits or jump ship" you are not an investor, I bought 200,000 SEO at an average of 4.8p in Oct/Nov last year and sold when they started falling from the dizzy heights of 27p (I use a trailing stoploss on most of my investments and my day trading) so I had to sell them when my stop was hit and I protected my "investment" I sold at an average of 21.425p, I made a profit of over 30k on my original investment of 10k, and now were told that is not investing, but trading.
Wake up, if it continues to fall protect your "investment" and sell you can always get back in later if you so wish. I have a few share certificates in the loosers drawer that I thought would make it big time.
SEO may well be worth 50p or 2+ in a few years time or maybe next week but for me, at the moment, it just keeps falling.

DYOR the decision is yours.

Best of luck to all holders.

Well said Prodman, totally agree, investing does not mean keep the shares until the day you die reagardless. I protected my investment too and as you say I can get back in again later.

Afraid not chaps, selling on the speculation that the price will drop and then you can get back in again, is, by it's very nature Trading, you are speculating that the price will come back down again for you to buy back in. You have know way of knowing that there will be no further announcements to push the price up further, i.e. you are speculating. I'm afraid this is the sort of stuff that the majority of people who buy shares con them selves about and why there are so few genuine investors.

Biscuit - As I said before when I first bought these shares, I bought them as an investment, but for me the price started to drift back down which triggered my stoploss so I sold, I never said I would buy back in, at the moment there is too much uncertainty for further investment, I did say (you can always get back in later if you so wish) but I'm not looking at the moment to get back in.

I buy/sell shares to make money. Many things dictate when I buy or sell, which means sometimes I buy/sell same day ( very rarely ) sometimes sell 2/3 years later. Am I a trader, investor or a gambler. There is no defining times between a buy/sell which dictates that you suddenly go from trader to investor.

Definition of Investor.
To commit (money or capital) in order to gain a financial return: invested their savings in stocks and bonds.

Definition of Trader.
A person engaged in buying and selling, One that speculates regarding the future turn of events.

Gambler
One who speculates for quick profits.

They all appear to fit dealing in shares ,so its as clear as mud.

Most of us consider a person who buys/sells over a short period as a trader, whilst most consider a person who buys/sells over a medium/long period is an investor. I am sure we all agree we all gamble when we deal in shares. Does it matter anyway.

All you can do is plan the trade and trade the plan - to each his own. At best we can all aspire to be good planners.
sd

Edit: PS. Currently I seem to have a plan that has proved to be woolly, and hence I am suffering. Memo to self - make a better plan.

Very well Prodman, I don't understand the "uncertainty for further investment". I think the RNS announcements from the company have been very clear and unambiguous. I do notice though that you have just started posting here apparently with no further interest in "investing" in the company and talking about the "uncertainty" in the future. My main point then would be why would you waste your time posting here???

href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,16770870%

Second food group lifts prices
By Vera Devai
September 30, 2005

NATIONAL Foods, the nation's largest milk producer, will put up the prices of some of its products by up to 8 per cent, citing soaring fuel costs.

"The one (reason) that's invisible is that crude oil is also the raw ingredient for plastic packaging and there's been big increases in plastic. The Australian Consumers Association (ACA) said the increases could be just the tip of the iceberg, with other foods likely to get more expensive because of fuel costs.

Every where you look anything to do with petroleum based products just keeps getting more expensive.l

Biscuit - you're beginning to sounbd a bit desparate if you don't mind me saying. I think Prodman is generously sharing his experiences with us for our greater good. Don't knock a man who has done it better - learn from him.

btw - I am still holding and still in profit, but I would have been wiser to follow Prodman and Andysmith some time ago. I know it, I admit it, I regret it, am older and wiser - well older anyway.

sd

Hind sight is a wonderful thing - try telling that to all those punters who sold at 8p having bought at 6p and made 30% profit

Yep they made a profit - but could have made 500% if they had held and sold at 30p

Baza

.....thing is i did the same as prodman and andysmith, now i'm buying back big time at these lovely prices!
Who is correct?
This is what makes a market.....

Biscuit - Why so hostile? If you look through all the posts on this and Traders Room you will see I'm not a regular poster at all, only on the FTSE comp thread.
I did say "at the moment there is too much uncertainty for further investment) I will be waiting for further announcements.

Well here comes my zebedee bounce

Baza

Come on chaps and chapesses - each to their own. We all have different strategies and timeframes - its just like a car boot sale - one mans rubbish is another mans gem - provided they can agree on a price.

Baza

Zebedee bounce? Are you a "new-age-hippy-chartist" or something Baza? ;o)

Not sure if you find this useful - but I will post raandomly - unless you think it is cluttering the thread.

Now 2:2 @ 16.25 : 16.75 and 150k : 150k

Baza

Very helpful Baza, i'm still looking to add but have paused whilst i gauge direction.

Could go either way at the moment