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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

cynic - 27 Nov 2018 14:57 - 10363 of 12628

as voted for by a 4% majority in the referendum
indeed, very much in line with what corbyn himself has always wanted

did you actually vote in the referendum fred?

Clocktower - 27 Nov 2018 15:29 - 10364 of 12628

If you are living out of the Country for 15 years or more you do not get a vote, no matter how British you are cynic.

cynic - 27 Nov 2018 15:51 - 10365 of 12628

so????
and do you think they should?

Fred1new - 27 Nov 2018 16:24 - 10366 of 12628

Depends on whether they pay their full dues over the absent period and where they pay those dues!

cynic - 27 Nov 2018 16:45 - 10367 of 12628

by living abroad, it is a matter of fact that they will avoid paying uk income tax
whether or not you regard that as part of their "full dues" is a matter of opinion, though personally, i do not see why they should get a vote

for that matter, i don't think prisoners jailed for crimes with a tariff of say 7 years or more (an arbitrary period) should get a vote either

Clocktower - 27 Nov 2018 16:47 - 10368 of 12628

Take the best and leave the rest to pay cynic. If TM gets here way - you`ll pay every day, so you would be richer if you move away and leave the rest to pay.

Vote with your feet.

TM has such high standards that she has nothing to say about the killing of Khashoggi and is happy to supply weapons to these nations for cash.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/27/argentina-prosecutors-considering-charges-against-mohammed-bin-salman-at-g20

cynic - 27 Nov 2018 17:04 - 10369 of 12628

i'll just live with what life throws at me, and unless finances dictate otherwise, i really have no wish to move within this country either

Cerise Noire Girl - 27 Nov 2018 17:07 - 10370 of 12628

Expats can vote in referenda for 15 years after leaving the UK. I certainly know plenty of fellow expats who didn't vote in the first referendum (mainly because they didn't know they could vote) who intend to vote remain in the second referendum.

Presumably Dilbert discounted those folks in his straw poll down at the Sheep Shaggers Arms???

cynic - 27 Nov 2018 17:11 - 10371 of 12628

if someone has chosen to live abroad - being posted abroad is different - thus avoiding uk taxes, why should they then retain the right to vote at all?

Cerise Noire Girl - 27 Nov 2018 17:18 - 10372 of 12628

I don't make the laws, Cyners, I just know how to use them. But when it comes to Brexit, nearly every expat living in Europe is adversely affected to some degree at a personal level, so why shouldn't they have a vote?

Fred1new - 27 Nov 2018 17:20 - 10373 of 12628

Manuel,

Be careful, there seems to be a lot of knives be thrown in the Thames Valley.

(Not all of them by tory con artists.)

-=---

CNG.

They are probably baaing him from there.

cynic - 27 Nov 2018 17:22 - 10374 of 12628

CNG - exactly because they have chosen to live elsewhere ..... but yes, if the law says etc, but the law also says philip green can abuse the tax system to his heart's content

Clocktower - 27 Nov 2018 17:23 - 10375 of 12628

You can live in the UK and avoid most taxes bar VAT - the more you earn the less you pay and still get a vote, so why should expats not get a vote in any referendum if they hold a British Passport ?

Cerise Noire Girl - 27 Nov 2018 17:26 - 10376 of 12628

With an Irish granny, you can hold multiple passports!

;o)

cynic - 27 Nov 2018 17:28 - 10377 of 12628

sure wish i could avoid most taxes, other than via my pension

exactly because these people have chosen to live in spain or france or switzerland or wherever ...... if you go, you go

Stan - 27 Nov 2018 17:30 - 10378 of 12628

Talking of going?..when are you going Alf? 😀

Cerise Noire Girl - 27 Nov 2018 17:35 - 10379 of 12628

Cyners,

Really, you need to take this up with your MP before the next referendum. Has Dilbert got a date for it yet?

:o)

cynic - 27 Nov 2018 17:36 - 10380 of 12628

now - home to cook some leftover chicken in a tasty white sauce with mushrooms and leeks and a jacket potato

Dil - 27 Nov 2018 20:02 - 10381 of 12628

10370 - lol hils , that fecking thick they didn't know they could vote ??? How stupid are they , sheep up here knew the score. People that stupid shouldn't be allowed to vote , even Fred knew but just couldn't be arsed.

Keep praying hils :-)

ExecLine - 27 Nov 2018 20:16 - 10382 of 12628

".........because they didn't know they could vote........."

Tee hee hee. :-)
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