Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Dil one of your best posts. Well done young man.

Well this should be a laugh and a half https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46366162

I wonder what excuses and abuse some of you outers will be spouting today.

do you believe anyone at all?
mail headline shows clear public support for the deal, so it must be true

Dilbert,

Please don't tell me that you're surprised at the stupidity levels of the British. There's enough of them on here for you to have realised by now.

The Daily Mail? that's the same rag that was Fascist and pro Hitler in the 30/40's isn't it, so is that all you have to quote from Alf, desperate times indeed for you Little Englanders... I think you will agree!

Manuel,

Of course, you can always trust Theresa May and the tories.

Look at their track record and the barrows they push.

A good bet would be one of the funds being started by one of their star loyalist in Dublin.

A vote of confidence for Brexiteers.

Hils , to be honest yes I was surprised to find out how stupid ex pats are.

TM putting up a good fight today but desperate times for her.

Dilbert,

Some might argue that it's the Brits that stay in Blighty and put up with this endless nonsense who are a sandwich short of a picnic.

You're being let down big time by those who have been elected to represent you and look after your interests. This isn't just something that's come about over the last couple of years - it's been happening for the last decade or more. You deserve better!

The PM is going to be 'on her bike' any time soon.

Qn. And replaced by who?

Boris is favourite - but going out from 8.2 and presently at odds of 8.8

then we currently have

Sajid David 9.4
Michael Gove 9.6
Dominic Raab 9.8

In other words, the Tories are short of a viable alternative leader to replace Theresa May.

The next Labour Leader contenders are:

Emily Thornberry 7.0
Angela Rayner 10.5
Keith Starmer 12.5

Bit of a shortage of good possible contenders there too, if you ask me.

EL - The Tories are getting to the point of making a choice but Labour will not dump JC unless they suffer a loss at election time, which he could well win. In fact so many people just want change no matter who it is, that he is odds on to be the next PM at this point in time if an election was called.

If you were a homeless soul or single mum with limited income, or had suffered though lack of funding in the NHS - Poor Council management of Social Services then I suggest you would vote for JC to be PM.

My money is on Andrea Leadsom - backed by the money - ££££££££££££££

Mr Carney laying it thick. Just read his breakdown. Obviously 17million didnt believe the it could be that bad back in 2016. Better add a few more percentage points up and down to get the message across on the doom scale this time.

CT

Andrea Leadsom is my MP. She's very good but I don't think she'd make a good PM, in that she just doesn't appear to be forceful enough.

At the moment, she doesn't seem to be saying much one way or the other either.

EL - Yes she is keeping her head down and she is more forceful than you may think. They will not want another TM.

You may not think she will make a good PM but that does not mean the Tories will not plump for her in the current climate.

If she is your MP I trust you know a lot about her and her family members, if not I suggest you research them.

She is waiting like a Big Cat Hunts its prey, and she has the claws and a pride behind her to go for the kill.

It seems all we are interested is what politician does what ?.....the point should be :
What is in the best interest of the UK.....not who gets the nose in the top trough job !.....
anyway...I'm so fed up with the mess that Brexit is, organised by remainers that let's go for a no deal scenario....to hell with all...!!!....the EU want our goods...OK...we want to buy theirs...OK....it might be difficult at first but the people/companies with big pockets will sort things out quickly...come late march !...

That's the spirit rf , more and more will come round to your way of thinking as time goes on.

That Carney is such a bundle of joy , bet he's a real happy bugger on a night out.

CT

I note your comments with interest. If she did become PM then I think there is a strong possibility she would grow into the job. She certainly commands a great deal of respect around the Northampton area, albeit that the town itself is now a dump.

It seems we have a good EU ally in Hans Olaf Henkel of Denmark:

Henkel asks the EU for a bit more to help for the UK to help us vote FOR a deal instead of AGAINST one on December 8th

good morning all from sunny Milfland

is it my imagination, or is TM slowly winning this attritional war?
i really hope she does, not least because i concur that there is no realistic alternative