Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

It seems all we are interested is what politician does what ?.....the point should be :
What is in the best interest of the UK.....not who gets the nose in the top trough job !.....
anyway...I'm so fed up with the mess that Brexit is, organised by remainers that let's go for a no deal scenario....to hell with all...!!!....the EU want our goods...OK...we want to buy theirs...OK....it might be difficult at first but the people/companies with big pockets will sort things out quickly...come late march !...

That's the spirit rf , more and more will come round to your way of thinking as time goes on.

That Carney is such a bundle of joy , bet he's a real happy bugger on a night out.

CT

I note your comments with interest. If she did become PM then I think there is a strong possibility she would grow into the job. She certainly commands a great deal of respect around the Northampton area, albeit that the town itself is now a dump.

It seems we have a good EU ally in Hans Olaf Henkel of Denmark:

Henkel asks the EU for a bit more to help for the UK to help us vote FOR a deal instead of AGAINST one on December 8th

good morning all from sunny Milfland

is it my imagination, or is TM slowly winning this attritional war?
i really hope she does, not least because i concur that there is no realistic alternative

from this morning's FT ......

May’s imperfect deal will ease the Brexit uncertainty
What does business really make of the Brexit deal? The answer is actually very clear. This deal is not perfect. It does not guarantee a good future trade deal. It contains a tricky backstop no one likes. But, after two years of crippling uncertainty, the majority of British companies share one view: they support it, for three main reasons.

Talk about scraping the barrel..hardly inspiring I think you'll agree!

Milfland!!??!!

Are you hoping to find a milf there, Cyners?

:o)

Carney has been given the job of leader of the FEAR Brigade. Why do we employee these foreigners to tell us what is good for us?

As we get closer to the vote I think more of the public will have the same views as expressed by rf.

Not that I would be in agreement to another vote but if there were to be one, I think the remainers might get a huge shock and the vote might look more like 60% Out 40% Remain.

The people voted and the remainers have just dragged their heels to try to keep the UK tied in for life to support the EU with money.

May's future world.

In support of Manuel's heroine.

good morning CNG ...... it's merely an apt description of dubai :-)

One wonders if TM was always a member of the Fifth Column that was elected to unermine the solidarity of the Countries 52% and ensure the UK continued to be tied to the EU.

Remember the Spanish Civil War when the military revolted against the Republican Government, when they failed to win control a bloody civil war ensued - it is possible the sections of the public could rise up when they finially find out that they have been cheated out of Brexit, treated out of a Clean Break from the EU by the Fifth Column.

The way things are going:

1. I feel alienated against Theresa May.
2. I feel alienated against the senior Brexiteers (ie. JRM, BJ, IDS, other cabinet members who have resigned) for not speaking out MORE STRONGLY so as to:
a. Propose viable alternative solutions to the Brexit plan proposed by Theresa May.
b. Oust Theresa May.
c. Provide suggestions for an alternative leader.
3. I don't like to see TM gallivanting round the country massively pushing her deal to the people at large, when at the same time there are indications 90-100 of her own Tory MPs are going to vote against it on Dec 11th. FFS !!!
4. I also feel somewhat alienated towards my existing MP, Andrea Leadsom, who seems to be sitting on the fence. One minute she is against TM's plan and the next minute she is giving it her support.
5. I am also not happy that TM seems to be alienating the potential military support currently available to be provided by the USA. We do really need a strong relationship with the USA and I currently sense it is under threat.

I have other strong feelings about the state of affairs of Brexit. The above will do for now.

Whisper them in the waiter's year.

provided you leave a substantial tip, you can whisper whatever you like, in strictest confidence of course

Blimey, Doc! If you're angry now, what are you going to be like after the second referendum once you find out you're not leaving the EU?

:o)

:o)

Since just maybe, what you describe IS a possibility.

What I will be like, is joining loads and loads of others who say, "Well, I won't be voting Conservative ever again."

I'm more concerned today about whether Cardiff can beat Wolves this evening.

I'm having a day off from Brexit , bit like the PM.