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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

BigTed - 12 Feb 2008 17:39 - 1041 of 21973

Thanks Rich, yes i know, but just thought they would gain a lot more when their market opens playing catch up...?

cynic - 12 Feb 2008 17:49 - 1042 of 21973

so go long now, though it will already be well up .... personally i wouldn't, but you might like to try it as a dummy run

spitfire43 - 12 Feb 2008 18:04 - 1043 of 21973

FTSE feels like it's gone to quickly to these level, it will hinge on DOW tonight, but would expect some correction tomorrow. Just checked 1 year chart on FTSE which shows resistance at 6067 (last lower high on 4th Feb) and support at 5600 from 22nd Jan. It's in a clear bear channel, unless it breaks through resistance at 6067. If it fails and reverses I believe this would give sell signal and a test of support at 5600.

Still have my bear head on, not inclined to be growing horns any time soon.

cynic - 12 Feb 2008 18:07 - 1044 of 21973

nimbleness and some luck required ..... don't really agree with your analysis, though think FTSE top is no higher than 6230 and bottom 5690

explosive - 12 Feb 2008 19:37 - 1045 of 21973

Just closed -190 points, that clears out 3/4 of last weeks profit made..... CAUTION springs to mind, Buffett get a hair cut... Very unpridictible times, was sure of a fall with General Motors results, oh well another day..

cynic - 12 Feb 2008 19:57 - 1046 of 21973

interesting you should do that though do not know the level ..... am currently contemplating shorting around 12430, not that i think there will be ahuge sell-off, but just that there may be a turn .... shall be happy if Dow finishes at say 12350 - i.e. well above the fairly critical 12300 mark

now short 12441 .... we shall see

explosive - 12 Feb 2008 19:58 - 1047 of 21973

Its been a day of looking at the charts thinking more about where to limit losses and if fallbacks are due at what prices.... Definatly more pot luck than anything at the moment.... Gonna play safe and wait for signs of topping out before shorting again, maybe concenrate on the FTSE and let Watt St steady into a trend more.... Good advice if I manage to follow it, I know what I'm like, if I think I've spotted a days or weeks trend....!!

explosive - 12 Feb 2008 20:12 - 1048 of 21973

Cynic I'd add another 100 pts to your 12350 as this push has got the market interested... Wouldn't be surprised if tomorrows news features Warren again, only 1 decine so far 2 still to go... Very funny today. The Buffett article I don't view positivley at all, if anything it highlights possibilities of losses, in other sectors of the American markets.

The chief executive of Berkshire Hathaway Inc told CNBC television that he had extended the offer to MBIA Inc, Ambac Financial Group Inc and FGIC Corp.
Buffett said he would charge premiums of 50 percent above what the bond insurers are receiving from issuers on the policies, which many analysts saw as a high price. There is a good chance that none of the bond insurers that received the offer will accept it, portfolio managers said.
From The Guardian.....

Doesn't make sense, Market rally on hot air offer, topped with the worst news ever from General Motors.... However its Warren Buffett and stupid he's not..

cynic - 12 Feb 2008 20:15 - 1049 of 21973

am out of that short again with nice little profit that will more than pay for Thursday dinner!
market really is very lively!

BigTed - 12 Feb 2008 21:10 - 1050 of 21973

Just driven back from Torquay and the market had droppd 130 odd points in my absence! by the time i come to my senses its moved up 60 and not so appealing for a long, sheeesh, be nimble he says, more like lightening with the way this thing moves...!

explosive - 12 Feb 2008 21:20 - 1051 of 21973

Falls away quickly then regains letting you know the downside....

maddoctor - 12 Feb 2008 22:21 - 1052 of 21973

buffet trying to cherry pick the best bits , as you would expect from him - total hot air

stroreysj - 13 Feb 2008 02:37 - 1053 of 21973

playing hang seng at the moment and far from an easy long. Have buys and sells set at the extremes and reversing back into rallys. Not paying alot as in a 50 point range with a 30 point spread but its still early.

cynic - 13 Feb 2008 07:19 - 1054 of 21973

totally off subject, but does anyone undersatnd why the Republic nominee only needs to secure 1191 delegates whereas the Democrat needs 2025 (A(nyone) B(ut) C(linton)!?

i assumed all states carried the same number of delegates for each party, rather as we have a fixed number of MPs

bhunt1910 - 13 Feb 2008 07:21 - 1055 of 21973

With HS up and Nikkei up - I would not have expected wall st to have dropped by so much.

Boy have I got a lot to learn

cynic - 13 Feb 2008 07:29 - 1056 of 21973

your hours sound back to front ....... anyway, Wall Street per se did not drop .... it closed well above the important 12300 level, albeit off its peak ..... if you are looking at indicator on IG or similar, that is often rather quirky with little reflection of reality at this time of the morning

spitfire43 - 13 Feb 2008 08:01 - 1057 of 21973

interesting to see where ftse opens, I feel it has risen 100 points too far, so looking for a short opportunity down to 5800.

Falcothou - 13 Feb 2008 08:18 - 1058 of 21973

Looks like the rich twins Buffett and Gates have been wheeled in to stave off recession now that the Fed has run out of ideas. With this being a bear market market I guess this rally will reach a lower high than the last 12780 and again present a good shorting opportunity but then again it is dangerous to assume anything!

spitfire43 - 13 Feb 2008 08:56 - 1059 of 21973

ftse is down to 5814 already, I would not be comfortable going short or long from here, all I can hope for is a pull back to 5850 or 5860 before I can get a short away. The DAX seems to have now decided to follow ftse down, so may have missed the boat for my pull back. You never know though in these markets, anything could happen.

Falcothou - 13 Feb 2008 09:18 - 1060 of 21973

Yeasterday's rise was perhaps a result of a bit of hope re. monoline and a lot of traders leaping on the break-out after a period of consolidation and then taking profits.
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