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The Forex Thread (FX)     

hilary - 31 Dec 2003 13:00

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Forex rebates on every trade - win or lose!

Falcothou - 14 Mar 2009 08:37 - 10413 of 11056

Certainly getting very contorted and red in the face now Hilary! My guess is Dow to reach 7500-800, euro to rise in sympathy to 130-31and then tank along with the dow on risk aversion once more.

hilary - 16 Mar 2009 12:44 - 10414 of 11056

Italys February-Final CPI confirmed at +0.2% m/m, 1.6% y/y

Japan Government: Economy is worsening rapidly, in a severe state

Euro zone February- Final CPI confirmed at +0.4% m/m, 1.2% y/y

Barcalys report “strong” start to the year

Risk sentiment is improving with sterling and the euro beneficiaries. Sterling has done especially well. Cable has put on the best part of two full cents this morning. Stop loss buy orders were triggered at 1.4075/80, 1.4110 and 1.4190 accelerating the move higher. “Russian” interest and a “large UK corporate ” got the ball rolling early. EUR/USD has also made some decent gains, the move there accelerating as stops above 1.3000 were triggered.

Global stockmarkets are doing well, with banking and financial stocks leading the way. In the UK shares of Barclays surged as the bank reported a “strong” start to the year. Citibank, Bank of America and JP Morgan Chase have also all said they made money in the first two months of 2009.

Fed Chairman Bernanke helped sentiment. In his “60 Minutes” appearance he said should the government succeed in calming financial markets, then the U.S. recession will probably end this year. The official said “green shoots” are appearing in some markets aided by the Fed and there has been “some improvement” in banks.

Meanwhile the G20 did their bit. The Worlds’ top finance ministers and central bankers pledged to restore bank lending strength, financial regulations and boost funding to the IMF.

Sue 42 - 17 Mar 2009 13:36 - 10415 of 11056

Has anyone done FXBootcamp? I jsut wondered if it was any good?

qwento - 17 Mar 2009 18:57 - 10416 of 11056

Sue, I joined them for a couple of months when I first attempted forex, a couple of years ago.

At the time (it might of changed) their strategy was based upon the following :

EMA 5 (based on close) and SMA 8 (based upon OPEN) cross

Take notice of the 21 and 55 EMA

MACD 21,55,8

Stochastics 8,5,3

PIVOTS (they love pivots), Fibonacci Levels amd Trendlines.

This was based mainly on 15 and 5 minute charts. You had to take notice of a 5/8 cross on the hourly though.

I have to say I still use the 5/8 cross although I take more notice of the 50SMA and 200 EMA.

It might have changed, but the lessons were only made available gradually. So you had to subscribe for a few months to work your way through all of the online course. As a beginner the course was very good - no complaints.

The online trading sessions are not a signals service. They do not tell you when to take a trade. Which in one respect is good, you have to do some work yourself.

However, having described a setup they were very good at explaining why the setup might fail. So many times I sat here thinking they had binned the trade only to find later that they were bragging about the number of pips they had made having taken the trade.

Quite often their end of day videos bore no resemblance to the live trading chatter whatsoever. They could always say they spotted a good trade setup but never committed at the time to actually taking it - which did leave them with an opt out later ;-)

You also have to listen to how good a golfer Wayne is, and what a great car he drives ............

If you are debating a subscription Wayne does a live broadcast on FxStreet for Non Farm Payrolls. That will give you a good impression of whether you would gain anything from their live 'classes'.

There are a lot of Bootcamp videos on YouTube where you can see their setup logic.

They are definitely not rip off merchants. I did learn a lot about Forex in a short space of time. The usefulness of their live trading sessions I would say is debatable.


Sue 42 - 18 Mar 2009 07:53 - 10417 of 11056

Thanks qwento

I started listening to the non-farm payroll - about 2 so far - which is what got me interested. I do agree that they seem to claim successful trades when that isn't what they say before - so for example on the non-farm payroll last time it rose (cable) before the announcement & then fell off but they claimed the rise!

Also I seem to be getting daily videos - but eg yesterday they were talkong about the yen & then did an after event on cable - claiming loads of points!

Out of interest - how much does it cost? I don't want to ask them as I will get bombarded by sales stuff I think!

hilary - 18 Mar 2009 08:09 - 10418 of 11056

My tuppeneth for what it's worth.

Trading Forex is no different to trading stocks or commodities or index futures or fruit and veg from a market stall. If you can trade one item from that list, you'll be able to trade all of the items. And if you can't trade one of those items, it's no use even pretending that you're a trader because the only person that you're fooling is yourself.

So, with that in mind, I have to question whether specific FX training courses are of any use and if a general trader training course wouldn't serve a better purpose. There isn't a holy grail of secret settings for the FX market as such just the same as there isn't for any other market on the list. Sure, there are strategies that work and strategies that don't, but the biggest hurdle that most people face when trading is the screwball thoughts that bounce around inside their heads when they look at a monitor showing their account balance going down.

So, unless this "guru" is some sort of psychotherapist who will help you conquer your fears, I really wouldn't waste your money.

qwento - 18 Mar 2009 10:08 - 10419 of 11056

I seem to remember, and it might of changed, it was $399 per month which used to be a lot cheaper when the pound was at BOGOF against the dollar.

I wouldn't necessarily disagree Hilary. However, I think one of the biggest factors in trading any market is confidence. If a short spell looking over somebody's shoulder gives you that confidence then fine.

If you are new to forex then even knowing the best time to trade is a step in the right direction. Unless someone tells you it might take a fair bit of screen watching to work out currency relationships to risk aversion. A newbie may not realise that on some pairs you actually pay overnight interest being short.

What I would say is there is a lot of rubbish out there. FxBootcamp is no doubt one of the better ones, if you ignore some of their claims.

One thing is for sure, there is no holy grail. If Wayne or any other of the 'pros' out there had really found it they wouldn't waste time selling hope to the masses.

I know a lot of you would totally disagree with me but the day I took every indicator off of my screen was the day I started to make money. Reading Elder as my first introduction to trading set me back years.

If you want to save some money Sue and want an extremely good strategy for trading forex then email me through MoneyAM. It's available right now on a web site for free (well, 1p if you pay through Paypal) and no, it is not of my invention. It's not the holy grail, it can only be used in Forex, but it does work time after time :-)







hilary - 18 Mar 2009 10:26 - 10420 of 11056

".......... the day I took every indicator off of my screen was the day I started to make money."

You'll be telling me next that all you need to trade is a horizontal line.

:o)

qwento - 18 Mar 2009 10:46 - 10421 of 11056

I just use a double headed coin - works wonders ;-)

Sue 42 - 18 Mar 2009 11:32 - 10422 of 11056

Qwento - I just emailed you

hilary - 18 Mar 2009 19:26 - 10423 of 11056

Not my words ........



Investors are scared stiff that the Fed has cranked up the printing press and inflation is going to run amok. What they are ignoring is the fact that very little of the money that the Fed is pumping into the system is making its way into the real economy.

The Fed is in a unique position at the moment; they are THE central counterpart for the US money markets. They know where EVERY body is buried. They can gauge the health of the money markets to an extent they have never been able to before. Once banks start withdrawing excess reserves from the Fed and putting them to work in a big way, the Fed can start to shrink the balance sheet. It’s like playing poker and being able to see all the hands. This should allow the Fed to ward off inflation before it can take hold.

My guess is we have a knee-jerk rally for a day or two followed by a reassessment. Markets will either turn decidedly toward reflation or they will fail. If reflation is the trade, the dollar will fall. If risk aversion returns, the dollar will rise regardless of the aggressive move toward quantitative ease.

The Fed is betting on risk aversion; they would not be making this audacious move if they were not extremely concerned that the economy is going to worsen and stay weak potentially for years to come.

How will we know if the reflation trade is for real? Oil will break and hold above $50 and likely move quickly higher; Gold will slide back below $890 and stocks will rally like we’ve never seen in our lifetimes.

Falcothou - 18 Mar 2009 19:35 - 10424 of 11056

When are they going to start digging up the Euro bodies?It's behaving like Teflon Tony

Seymour Clearly - 18 Mar 2009 20:31 - 10425 of 11056

Well I never - I had 2 cable longs running. One was stopped out and the other closed for a profit - I certainly didn't expect that after such a down day!

Falcothou - 18 Mar 2009 20:33 - 10426 of 11056

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/
Why do I keep dabbling in currencies?Glutton for punishment

hilary - 18 Mar 2009 20:48 - 10427 of 11056

One of my systems opened a cable short about 30 seconds beore the Fed, Flossie. It took out about half my profits from a USD/JPY short that I'd also had running for most of the day.

Seymour Clearly - 18 Mar 2009 22:30 - 10428 of 11056

That's a bit of a bummer Hiltops. Systems, eh? Who'd want 'em :-)

jeffmack - 19 Mar 2009 13:52 - 10429 of 11056

Hope you are all making loads on this cable move up

hilary - 19 Mar 2009 14:49 - 10430 of 11056

Well I managed to sell the last low half hour ago, Jeffie, and I hope I haven't just bought the high.

hilary - 19 Mar 2009 14:51 - 10431 of 11056

I've cleared 7 cents from it in 24 hours though, so it's not all bad.

:o)

jeffmack - 19 Mar 2009 15:00 - 10432 of 11056

Not all bad at all
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