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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

skinny - 04 Jan 2013 09:30 - 10415 of 21973

Ooops.

GBP Services PMI 48.9 consensus 50.4 previous 50.2

Toya - 04 Jan 2013 09:57 - 10416 of 21973

I agree with the apparent lack of logic for the movement of the DOW, though I'm still trying to get used to that idea!

I heard a horrifying statistic on the radio today: 7.8 million people in the UK are struggling to keep up with their mortgage/rent payments - double the level of a year ago, apparently! That does not bode well for the true state of the economy, imho

Shortie - 04 Jan 2013 11:03 - 10417 of 21973

I also heard that Toya, food banks have also been reporting ever increasing numbers and there was also a report before Christmas about people working part-time as they can't get full time hours. I don't believe for a second the true state of the economy is what we're being told.

cynic - 04 Jan 2013 11:26 - 10418 of 21973

gov't statistics are never ever the truth, or not as you and i would recognise the word.
and why has it taken a generation for a gov't to work out that most university degrees are a total waste of time and that (real) apprenticeships should be encouraged in lieu and companies given financial incentive for so doing

skinny - 04 Jan 2013 13:38 - 10419 of 21973

Non-Farm Employment Change 155K consensus 150K previous 161K

Unemployment Rate 7.8% consensus 7.7% previous 7.8%

cynic - 04 Jan 2013 13:47 - 10420 of 21973

all a bit ho hum ...... markets just drifting back and forth

Balerboy - 04 Jan 2013 13:56 - 10421 of 21973

very dull day.. :(

Shortie - 04 Jan 2013 14:33 - 10422 of 21973

6071.8 another short placed on the FTSE, averaging 6035.2 now with 3 open positions. Small stakes though....

cynic - 04 Jan 2013 14:56 - 10423 of 21973

i agree that it really does feel like the indian rope trick, or the 3-card trick shyster who will try to sucker in the punters before dumping them in the gutter

HARRYCAT - 04 Jan 2013 15:00 - 10424 of 21973

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Shortie - 04 Jan 2013 15:13 - 10425 of 21973

I would start building a position in the DOW but I don't want to overstretch as the FTSE rally could well continue for another couple of weeks. 6100 is where I'll open and other short position.

cynic - 04 Jan 2013 15:20 - 10426 of 21973

it is inconceivable that any rally could run for a further 10+ days without some sort of correction, even if the long term indication remains north - i think it does; you disagree

Shortie - 04 Jan 2013 15:29 - 10427 of 21973

I do cynic, but for me I also have a nice ISA equity portfolio 80% in the blue so am also looking at this as an oppertunity to hedge equity profits against any correction or fall.

skinny - 04 Jan 2013 15:37 - 10428 of 21973

I'm short again (by limit) @6076 now av @6054. I also have a limit in @6,136.

Shortie - 04 Jan 2013 16:14 - 10429 of 21973

Monthly FTSE100 chart below, note the June 2007 downwards trend is showing a breakout. You'd also be right in thinking that the FTSE isn't clearly into overbought territory yet... So there is still upside potential which follows the shorter term trend here. As you'll no doubt be aware, trying to call the market high prior to a signalled-reversal often results in betting burnt so keep those stakes small if your going to short and build a position. On a positive note the FTSE has spent far more time well below 6000 than it has above it, so the probability of making money is on our side.... IMHO

skinny - 04 Jan 2013 16:19 - 10430 of 21973

Shortie - I'm vastly long and in excellent profit, I'm only building a short position in order to ensure that the market continues up and :-)

Toya - 04 Jan 2013 17:28 - 10431 of 21973

I'm just catching up, having had a lovely day out in Shrewsbury today; such a civilised town for a bit of shopping and some lunch!

Well, the FTSE certainly has continued up today! I really didn't think it would zoom so high so fast... I still keep thinking it will come crashing down. I'd made a small profit on my 6040 short a couple of days ago and then re-set it... Hmmm

Cynic: re my earlier post (10416), it was a report compiled by the charity Shelter.

And Shortie: yes, I also heard that (under)employment report your referred to.

HARRYCAT - 04 Jan 2013 17:30 - 10432 of 21973

Shopping!!!! I thought that was all done with over the Xmas period?

Toya - 04 Jan 2013 17:37 - 10433 of 21973

Lol - you're quite right; no serious shopping today: just an outing to meet up with friends. But you know what women are like - we always have to come home with a little something!

halifax - 04 Jan 2013 17:40 - 10434 of 21973

Toy you shouldn't expect any charity to say anything positive.
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