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point over and forgotten

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Take a chill pill tabs , any pointers on beating the bookie are always more than welcome.

Catterick 3-10 I have Firetrap marked down as a 5/2 chance...in fact my favbetfair have it at 7.8.bargain!

Cheers, I will take a look

Firetrap ran behind Iron Velvet in a class 4 btn 2 L last August with a rating of 62...Iron Velvet now has a rating of 75... Firetrap is now 58 in this class 6...his first run of the season was at Wolverhampton on the All Weather some eight months onhe was asked to run over a distance 3 furlongs further than attempted before
This is usually a sign a trainer is using the race for a fitness exercise also the surface is slower
Held up in last placeand still going ok a furlong outfaded into thirdtrainer Anne Duffield booked Seb Sanders that dayand the horse attracted money at 9/2...today he is on his favoured grass in a poor race and back in distance by 2 furlongs Firetraps best effort was that Iron Velvet raceand guess what?that was run at Catterick same as todaythe jig-saw is complete
JeffThis is rated to win now if it runs poorlycould bemild colicbruisingAnaemiatravel sicknessor just totally pissed off syndromestart your own little black bookand make a note.simplesI see a little money has come already

I had a nibble at 7.2

Tobasco, did this horse only have 3 legs?;-)
see it came 7th out of 10,

proof is in the pudding,
simples. your pick was a donkey,

Dont shoot the messenger now;-) im just observing

Does anyone really make decent money from befair?, i guess there will be a few, but i reckon they would be more number crunchers than pure gamblers,

I know i took a look at it a few years ago , and it was more hassle than it was worth, still need movement in your direction to green up etc

Maybe its a woman thing, but ide rather watch charts than silly nags jumping over fences ;-) seems a little bit more predicatable, or am i missing something?

RuthI did expect some sort of ridiculebut let me just explain racingfirst of all my selection was a 3yo bay gelding thoroughbred by Firebreaknot a Donkeysecond pointyes people do make money from betfairopinion vs opiniona winner and a loser! If you look on the horse racing thread [RACE] tabasco - 09 Apr 2010 15:53 - 792 of 805
A few minutes to the Topham ChaseI have had a small bet on N A Twiston-Davies second string DIABLO22/1 best priced bookmakers27/1
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Diablo was my clear best value for money bet in that raceit finished last to complete [15th] in the 27 runner racenow at this pointI did not spit the dummy calling Diablo a donkeyit was in my bookand had solid claims!I tell you this for a reason

Yesterday just ten minutes after the disappointment of FiretrapDiablo was running in the 3.20 Perth.
I was on for good money at 6/4 and a little better for smaller amounts where it obliged by 17L and 58L at the returned odds of 5/4...that combined with a number of traded horses and a number of laysone in the same racegave me an overall winning day
Firetrap would have given me a very good day and is on a winning mark that could even be improvedand will have his day I will be on when most on here will have forgotten the name!
Ruth.racing is a lot of work! Fall short and you will end up skint

Tobasco,

Every horse will have its day eventually, the problem is how much money will be lost backing the horse before it eventually shruggs off its donkey status and is first over the line,


As you say its simples, its simple mathermatics, and somehow i dont see it adding up?

Well Ruth the last two that I mentioned won their next race15/2...and 5/4...both were available at better odds than the returnedwhen you say every horse has its daythat is a very fair assumptionso using that as your starting point and to simplify mattersselect one type of horselook for an unexposed improver off a low markpossibly run only seven times in two seasonsfirst five races tailed off out the back? maybe his last two races have been 6th of 16 btn. 3L running onand 5th of 14 btn 2 but with a slow startand hampered in running.
Now on bare form figures he would be declared unplaced in all seven races and will be rated as suchbut we know that does not tell the total storythose that always know the total story have the edgethose that have the edge gain that small margin available
Now I dont want to bore you with Race ClassTracks left hand/right hand or straightgoingblinkersdraw biasbooked Jockeysstable JockeysApprenticesTrainer formhorses that sweator claustrophobic with stallsand so onbut it is all part of the equation Ruthonce solvedyou have the edge!I play to solvemost of my horse are tradableeven yesterdays runner was around fourth favourite in most morning papersbut around 12-30 Betfair was showing him as fav. at 6.6.

so the moral of this story is, if tabby gives a horse, dont back it in this race but its next race, where he has a very good track record of getting winners.

Maybe you can let us know when firetrap is running again.

Moral of the story isI spend up to 12 hours a day compiling and updating my filesDYOFR!

Ah, come on Tabby.

I envy you working in the racing industry. I lover racing but dont get much time for it. Use to love point to pointing and the evening meetings at Sandown, Kempton and Epsom. Must get there this summer

The Point circuit has a great followingI have friends that have in the past had horses with Phil York and his FatherPhil is a great bloke...a legend in the point-to-point World and still a good Jockey

Perhaps Haljaferia Beverley 2-30 might be worth a piss takeI have it as a 7/2 chanceBetfair have it at 8.8 and I have backed it a lot higher...it will probably win next time outso dont back itthen I wont get the grizzle

Didnt get a chance to look at that one, was out with the dogs. Remind me next time.

Before you ask Ruth>

They backed down Haljaferia to 6.2 traded someand laid Deauville Flyer for a Long unup on the race put Haljaferia in your bookneeded the runrated 71.it ran in the Group 3 Queens Vase Royal Ascot last Juneand Jeffbuy a notebook!

Tobasco
Oh dear, not another donkey, i believe theres a shortage of donkeys on blackpool beach, maybe the donkey would make more for its owner doing a few kiddie rides up and down the beach?

Im just teasing ,before you have a strop,

Current Rating: "Best thread on the board"

:-)

An inflatable jockey was riding an inflatable horse for an inflatable trainer and an inflatable owner, for the first time over the jumps.

Leading easily after the last fence, he pulls up too early and two horses go past him.

After the race the jockey was so mad he stuck a pin in the horse, then he stuck a pin in the trainer and then another one in the owner.

He was called in front of the Stewards where he stuck a pin in himself.

The Stewards said to him, 'Not only did you let the horse down, the trainer down and the owner down, you have also let yourself down.'

RuthI have some association with Donkeysbut not in the way you are stating?

Execthat night the jockey went homeconsoled himself by riding his inflatable ladyand won the race by a nice length!there was a stewards inquiry for misuse of the whipbut they have now weighed in?