Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

I warmed very, very much (as did wifey) towards Michael Gove, who appeared on this morning's Andrew Marr show.

AM does interrupt an awful lot but MG did manage to get his own main very important points across in a very clear way:

1. He is supporting the PM's present deal and which is admits is not perfect.

2. He says, that the main problem for him is the backstop (naturally) but it is just as big a problem, if not more so, for the EU. So its not perfect for them either. Wifey got this too.

Importantly, if the back stop is ever triggered and we get to become a bit worried, say by the French arguing the toss about fishing grounds, we can A. Continue trading with the EU and B. Whilst not being forced to pay in any monthly EU contribution and also C. Have an open border and also D. Continue doing pretty much our own thing around the world with trading, etc.

Therefore, A, B and C would be the case, he feels the EU would want to discontinue the backstop arrangement more quickerer than wot we wud. So that's nice.

He won me over to accept the PM's deal too.

But I still want rid of TM. Because he is more of a democrat and managed to get this important 'backstop point' across (despite Andrew Marr's interruptions) I wouldn't mind him becoming PM (and it's OK for wifey too).

I wanted to put a link up so you can see this interview on YouTube. There isn't one on there yet but I will look out for it.

thanks for your customary marxist polemic fred
as usual i have skipped past as you're just seriously dull

anyway, as you never vote, the question i asked could have been of no possible interest to you

stan - i assume you actually voted first time around, so my question for you remains valid

Exec,

I warmed very, very much (as did wifey) towards Michael Gove, who appeared on this morning's Andrew Marr show.

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You must have been b. cold.

Next, you will be saying Theresa would warm the cockles of your heart.

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Manuel.

How ungrateful of you when somebody has paid attention to you.

Go and ask Nanny Theresa for a cuddle.

The big question for Stan is what comes first ... Brexit or a Burnley win ?

Did Blackburn vote remain ? You could always move there and support them Stan , makes sense.

On the ITV news website (Robert Pexton column): it looks like TM has joined I'm a celeb get me out of here with the palm-tree backround....the way it's going : she might as well.....to me we are going to get more emu than EU....or is it the other way round ?...

Gove is a lying toerag!

Nothing that was listed in your post is true EL, we would still be under €u law, possibly forever.

Alf,

Iv'e already answered your question, now read my post 10444 again slowly and if you still can't understand it then ask someone who has understood it and then maybe you will get it.

The big question for Dil is what comes first ... The "informed referendum" or a Carduff City implosion.

Even Oily doesent believe it...


https://twitter.com/brexitblog_info/status/1069354364110848001

so stan, how will you vote if there is a referendum?
try answering without having first referred to to the commissariat

Mr Garnet you seem more dense then I thought but being the patient type I will persevere..so once again...

Alf,

We can't possibly have merely "a 2nd referendum" as everyone in the Country have had the time in between that referendum to be "informed" of some important elements that were not explained by the outers before the last one and the 1st "informed referendum" that should now happen...how many more times do you need to have this explained to you?

Stan.

You have to make allowances for Manuel, for as he moves into decrepitude he still remains in his childlike attention-seeking phase, like quite a lot of so-called "up and at "em" brigade" throwing their toys out of the pram.

Nanny won't be proud of him.

Quite Fred quite.

Think you put the e's in wrong place Stan.

EL reading that the back stabbing Gove has suckered you to support TM`s position beggers belief.

Better you watch Mogg in House of Commons live.

stan clearly can't make up his own mind how to vote in the event that there is a(nother) referendum, but just dances around the issue as fred's little puppet

it was interesting to hear today from a small group of important and very well educated saudi businessmen that they all thought uk would be well shot of brussels and was strong enough in the longer term to flourish

Manuel,

Still crawling in SA.

Be careful you never know when you will have served your purpose for them.