rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

Just driven back from Torquay and the market had droppd 130 odd points in my absence! by the time i come to my senses its moved up 60 and not so appealing for a long, sheeesh, be nimble he says, more like lightening with the way this thing moves...!

Falls away quickly then regains letting you know the downside....

buffet trying to cherry pick the best bits , as you would expect from him - total hot air

playing hang seng at the moment and far from an easy long. Have buys and sells set at the extremes and reversing back into rallys. Not paying alot as in a 50 point range with a 30 point spread but its still early.

totally off subject, but does anyone undersatnd why the Republic nominee only needs to secure 1191 delegates whereas the Democrat needs 2025 (A(nyone) B(ut) C(linton)!?

i assumed all states carried the same number of delegates for each party, rather as we have a fixed number of MPs

With HS up and Nikkei up - I would not have expected wall st to have dropped by so much.

Boy have I got a lot to learn

your hours sound back to front ....... anyway, Wall Street per se did not drop .... it closed well above the important 12300 level, albeit off its peak ..... if you are looking at indicator on IG or similar, that is often rather quirky with little reflection of reality at this time of the morning

interesting to see where ftse opens, I feel it has risen 100 points too far, so looking for a short opportunity down to 5800.

Looks like the rich twins Buffett and Gates have been wheeled in to stave off recession now that the Fed has run out of ideas. With this being a bear market market I guess this rally will reach a lower high than the last 12780 and again present a good shorting opportunity but then again it is dangerous to assume anything!

ftse is down to 5814 already, I would not be comfortable going short or long from here, all I can hope for is a pull back to 5850 or 5860 before I can get a short away. The DAX seems to have now decided to follow ftse down, so may have missed the boat for my pull back. You never know though in these markets, anything could happen.

Yeasterday's rise was perhaps a result of a bit of hope re. monoline and a lot of traders leaping on the break-out after a period of consolidation and then taking profits.

two things to note today ....

FTSE
tried and failed to break through 5900.
if Wall Street manages to finish strong again tonight, then expect that barrier to fall tomorrow.

DOW
good strong start, but has so far baulked at the psychological 12500 level.
for the nimble, good money quite possibly to be made by trading in either direction tonight.
the key will be where the index closes ..... too far too fast? .... possibly, but if there is upward momentum behind the trading, then it is not inconceivable that 12500 will indeed be breached

Had my first serious day at traing the indexes today.

Made money on the trades - had some good runs - but also a couple of stupid bets which cost me money. By the time I had taken account of the cost of each trade - I ended up slightly down.

I also felt that I over traded - felt almost compelled to trade at times and ended up chasing the index as well.

Traded both FTSE and Wall st - which seemd ok

Also found that once I had placed a bet - I was glued to every movement of the index - quite nackering.

Hey Ho

when the indices are volatile, which is the perfect time for making (or losing) money, you are quite right that you need to stay glued and focussed

this afternoon, Dow is very boring after its initial burst for glory

Promised myself to open a long if i got the chance at just over 12300, woke up this morning and there it was 12340ish, did i do it? no! you have to listen to your gut instinct, i thought the Dow was just dying to move higher and can see it at 12600 soon, having said that i have just gone short, looking for a dip before the next push...

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12800 is now my key figure and stop loss point. Have taken to minimum bet with more than enough money to finance it through to 12800... This day to day trading or hourly betting has the potential to wipe out funds very quickly, the long play shall provail I hope. Looking at the chart playing a long term bet should work out very nicely as long as 12800 isn't breached.

market cant decide which side of 12500 to go, doesn't seem to want to give it up at the moment... almost like watching paint dry in comparison to recent days...!

closed out for small profit, may have been too early, but another day and 12500 could be good support, for me, i'm just trying to practice guessing peaks and troughs and guage sentiment, cos ultimately thats what will make me money...:)

Good in theory Ted, practice is a little different though. If 12500 - 12600 becomes a temporary support line then I'm happy. Ultimatly though I'm looking for the downward trend to continue. My outlook is to sort with the bigger picture in mind, as long as it falls a little more each month than it rises I'm in the money. Financing for the rolling bet is very little so this shouldn't a problem. Its quick calling thats causing me trouble at the moment, the sp changes direction to often too often for my liking at the moment.

20th December was the last time the DOW gained for 4 days consequtively. Since then 2 day gains has been the norm. I'm hoping that will continue and give us a down day tomorrow...