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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


qc - 05 Oct 2005 18:25 - 10636 of 27111

andy, PM is old enough to fight his own battles but purely from my point of view as a long term holder in SEO(2003-date) what I object to from guys like Snip is the 'I have the chart, RIP SEO holders' and that sort of attitude. I think that is wrong UNLESS he has some other motives for scaring people? I am not scared, nothing changed IMO. Rubbing noses.....??

zscrooge - 05 Oct 2005 18:34 - 10637 of 27111

Well, well, well. Sp well ahead of itself, expectations built up due to broker forcasts etc etc? What happened to all the talk of real investors sticking with it? Learned projections of future earnings, sp prices etc? Just another charlatan posing as captain sensible.

paulmasterson1 - 05 Oct 2005 18:54 - 10638 of 27111


Hi All,

Some discrepency I noticed in EVO figures, which show just how conservative ALL their figures are !!

Stanelco said .... "a synthetic fiber of which more than 680,000 tons are used in cigarettes each year" and "Cellulose Acetate filter tow has a wholesale price of US $4,000 per ton" and "Starch based filter tow is also substantially cheaper (30-50% at current bulk prices) than that based on cellulose acetate."

EVO said .... "500,000 tonnes are used in cigarettes at a cost of around $4,000 per tonne" and "In theory, the new material could save around $600m per year"

Based on Stanelco calculations, the industry would save 30% to 50% of minimum 680,000 tons at $4000 per ton, which is a saving of $816,000,000 to $1,360,000,000 but evo again quote below all the Stanelco quoted figures, and take 30% saving on 500,000 tons !!

Cheers,
PM



bosley - 05 Oct 2005 19:13 - 10639 of 27111

qc, the sp dropping 50% doesn't scare you? your profits halved doesn't scare you? just as the "bashers" could not stop the sp rising , just as the techies and chartists were used to highlight all the bullishness about seo, it is the same now, but in reverse. i agree that the story and potential of seo hasn't changed, but market sentiment has. i will sell my remaining shares if/when we reach 14p/13p. pm1 wanted to play a game where people could try to guess how much the ciggie ip would sell for. i think a better game would be to try to guess how many greenseal conversions need to be announced in the forthcoming rns for seo to regain credibility and prove they can deliver. have a think about it. if it is another 1 or 2 machines, what will happen to the sp? personally, anything less than double figures and we are in trouble.

zscrooge - 05 Oct 2005 19:18 - 10640 of 27111

As the voice of sanity, hope it happens here for you BOS, but then you would have PM forever!

paulmasterson1 - 05 Oct 2005 19:25 - 10641 of 27111


Andy/Bos Hi,

I suggest those in buy more, and those out buy in, regardless of the current share price, because 5p or 10p here or there makes sod all difference, because the share price in 3-5 years time is what people should be thinking about, because by then, Stanelco will be a FTSE-100 monster, and all the scaremongers will have lost again.

Cheers,
PM

bosley - 05 Oct 2005 19:25 - 10642 of 27111

zscrooge, are you going to the mam day in manchester?

Fred1new - 05 Oct 2005 19:39 - 10643 of 27111

Correct me if I am wrong, but I have not seen any director's or institutional selling. If it was in such a parelous position I would have expected some bailing out.

qc - 05 Oct 2005 19:47 - 10644 of 27111

bosley, 30p - 15p is hardly great and I would have loved it to go up and up and up this year. But the reality is that from 4p in Dec 2004 to our current position and the constant good news thats came that will equate to a decent SP in the next 24 months then overall I am pretty happy.

I object to people on here who are only looking at charts or hold no shares rubbing us holders noses in the SP constantly.

A question for you.... If ASDA had signed for 200 machines in the summer, potential deals in the USA 'possibly' around the corner, a deal with Elwood for Frogpack and others that I cannot recall but the SP was still 4p but like me you thought that in the next few years the SP would be say 50p would you be panicking constantly?

Thats why we bought presumably, nothing has changed in my thinking or in the company(more positive than anything) yet its all doom and gloom and short term vision is all we have for some reason.

I dont care one jot really if its 10p on Monday as I still believe that long term this is a winner. If you do not agree then really, I think you should sell up. If you do sell, unlike others, dont be on here constantly deramping and shitting on SEO and the SP!

bristlelad - 05 Oct 2005 20:18 - 10645 of 27111

hi qc// WELL SAID/ Ilike your thinking/

zscrooge - 05 Oct 2005 20:34 - 10646 of 27111

bos, no, other commitments.

halfamil - 05 Oct 2005 20:35 - 10647 of 27111

Snip

Charts show history. Stanelco shows the future.

qc - 05 Oct 2005 20:36 - 10648 of 27111

halfamil, that should be the slogan!

paulmasterson1 - 05 Oct 2005 20:41 - 10649 of 27111



Snip is the past .... PM1 is the future .... LOL !

paulmasterson1 - 05 Oct 2005 21:02 - 10650 of 27111

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stringy - 05 Oct 2005 21:24 - 10651 of 27111

Makes me laugh when the markets have a down day and peeps start slagging off one share which has simply followed the day's trend.

It's happening all over AD--N today.........muppets!

stringy - 05 Oct 2005 21:26 - 10652 of 27111

PS good luck with the exhibition!

-Will be watching closely now on the run up and during and after.

shman - 05 Oct 2005 21:41 - 10653 of 27111


paulmasterson1 - 05 Oct 2005 20:41 - 10649 of 10652
Snip is the past .... PM1 is the future .... LOL !

goodone.


shman - 05 Oct 2005 21:43 - 10654 of 27111

remember guys 17-19Oct05..Walmart out there and its thrusday tomorrow..SEO loves thursday's don't they!!..well lets see tomorrow.

paulmasterson1 - 05 Oct 2005 21:50 - 10655 of 27111


shman Hi,

Yes indeed, only one trading week and two trading days to the big show .... !

Cheers,
PM
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