This board has been a little to quiet for while.

Is it time that Bush and Blair who is a close friend and confidant of Bush were tried for War Crimes?

Do you think the use by the American Administrations of renditions are War Crimes and committed with full knowledge of American and British leaders ie. Blair and Bush and they are ultimately responsible?

Also in the aftermath of the illegal invasion of Iraq are should their action seen to be as the provocation for the rising toll of British, American and Iraqi deaths.

As a result of the military intervention in Iraq do you think you are safer in Britain to-day?

Do you think one should expect government leaders and ministers who have been responsible for massive foreseeable casualties should visit the hospitals to meet the casualties they have produced directly or indirectly by their actions?

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Australias Churchill
John Howard, Australias Prime Minister, really really gets it. The Australian reports:

Prime Minister John Howard has launched a scathing attack on Australias left-wing intelligentsia, questioning its loyalty to the nation over the past decades. In a speech delivered last night for the 50th anniversary of the conservative magazine Quadrant, Mr Howard said the left had a history of denigrating the nation and was now doing the same with the war in Iraq, describing Islamic terrorism as the new tyranny.

He said Australian universities were still breeding leftists and described pro-communists of decades past as ideological barrackers for regimes of oppression opposed to Australia and its interests Fairfax reports today. Mr Howard said the left was wrong in its view that the Cold War was an equal struggle between the ideologies of the United States and the Soviet Union. became the height of intellectual sophistication to believe that people in the West were no less oppressed than people under the yoke of communist dictatorship, Mr Howard said in his speech.

Howard is the only western leader who has grasped that the greatest danger to the west lies in the way it has been attacked and undermined from within, a process that is continuing and which threatens to hand liberal democracy over to its Islamic enemies who are laying siege to it from without. He is the only one who puts these two things together, and is using his office as a bully pulpit from which to fight for the values of western civilisation in the culture war. Can you imagine President Bush, or Tony Blair or David Cameron, denouncing the universities as breeding grounds for left-wing enemies of civilisation? Of course not. Howard is Australias Churchill, and is the true leader of the west at this perilous time. What a pity he cant run for President of the United States

emigrate then.

Do you think for one sec I would live in the UK tweenieone, spend most orf my time where those of a certain persuasion are in short supply, and those that do live here, toe the line!! But I may visit if you get your house in order.........

.....and there you go. A foreigner telling us what to do. Stick to sorting out your own country/planet/reality and leave the politics/religion/culture of this one to those who actually reside in it.
you have a nice day.
:-)
and now your squelched.

Barwoni. so what enlightened country are you a citizen?

SUDAN//////////ME THINKS////

Time permitting, always happy to read everybody's postings. As long as it didn't get too personally abusive which is neither educational nor fun to read.

If there are genuine threat to UK from within, then Blair has made the threat more serious and us less well prepared. Blair has some merits but just image what UK will be like if everyone use Blair as a role model :-(

I want the troops back now, nearer to what and who they are suppose to protect.
And not wasting wealth and sacrificing lives in vain. It is not a private army.

axdpc Minimum 4,000 foreign insurgent fighters killed in Iraq.........Iraq is a vacuum for these nutters, the army is in the right place!

yes , yes, but where do you live. It must be such a wonderful place?
What are you ashamed to name the country?
pathetic.
If thats the case. do as earlier suggested and leave the discussion of this countries moral centre , to those with a vested interest in it.

wakeydanky, got to be kept a secret, to keep you undesirables out.........
Give you a clue 99% RC very tough on immigration, lovely clear blue sea.....




A year after the publication of a damning report into Islamic radicalisation among students, Britain's universities have been accused of burying their heads in the sand. Professor Anthony Glees says many vice-chancellors are still failing to confront the issue.

His claim comes 12 months after he named 24 universities where he said extremist groups had been detected.

Sky News' Home Affairs correspondent Rachel Amatt spoke to student Shiraz Maher who was recruited to a radical group at

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Leeds University.

The group's aim is to create an Islamic state in Britain

"One of the things we used to do is organise a dinner for all the new students - spread the members out - steer conversation to the core Hizb ut Tahrir ideology, foreign policy," he said.

"Over the course of dinner we would identify students susceptible to the party's message - they would be closely targeted and followed up in an attempt to recruit."

Maher recently rejected the message of jihad preached by Hizb ut Tahrir. But he offers an alarming insight into the way Islamic radicals operate.

"When they first arrive in the first few weeks what they seek to do is endear themselves to first year students - offer the use of a car, build a strong relationship - essentially one of dependence," he added.

The recruitment drive is not new.

Omar Sharif - the British suicide bomber who in 2003 attacked a busy nightclub in Tel Aviv - is believed to have been radicalised at university in London.

University professor Anthony Glees warned of the problem in his report - When Students Turn To Terror: Terrorist And Extremist Activity On British Campuses - and he believes colleges are refusing to take action.

BAWONI is from israel.
Has to be , or would have admitted it.
Do you think me so sad as to be semitic?
I would'nt lower myself to your standards.

Otherwise he's a prick living in his own dreamworld. WHITE, CHRISTIANS ONLY.

Wrong again davey, black is my favourite colour;-) The white meat is okay after a few hours on the spit or the beach, otherwise not tooo enticing!

ahhhh, so earlier asssumption that you are in fact a failed asylum seeking jihaadist was correct.
anyway.
bye bye and speak to your self. squelched.

Anger Over Muslim PC's Embassy Move


The decision to grant his request for another assignment has been strongly criticised.

Former Flying Squad commander John O'Connor told the Sun: "This is the beginning of the end for British policing.

"When you join the police, you do so to provide a service to the public. If you cannot perform those duties, you leave."

Lord Janner, former president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, said it was the duty of police officers to protect British citizens and their guests.

"It would be a grave error for this to be permitted. Our police force has to protect British people and their guests," he said.

What next, the man took an oath, beejaysus!!!!

Anger is an understatement

How pathetic, and unfortunately a sign of our times. Whats next? soldiers only fighting in wars between particular races or countries. Doctors only treating certain races.
This policeman should be moved all right, to the job centre. Public servants serve the whole community, and that means the whole community. I cant believe that some luny liberal allowed this to become an issue.

Police should exist on the basis of ensuring and enforcing the Queens peace and as such should be 'blind' in the course of their duties, impartiality should be their standard practice.

If an officer who has taken an oath to uphold the law (no matter what his private feelings about the matter) is allowed to 'vote' with and excuse themselves from duties they find distasteful, then we can expect all confidence in the Police to simply disappear, every single tiny pressure group will start claiming discrimination.

The next thing you will hear is white christian youths claiming they were picked on just because the officer was a shihk, Muslim, Hindu, baptist, Jew, and of course Muslim youths saying exactly the opposite.

If your conscience or your beliefs get in the way of doing your duty, then resign and move on, no one should expect positive discrimination as a HR policy - it is totally unacceptable.

From a poster called trade666

Ba,

"If an officer who has taken an oath to uphold the law (no matter what his private feelings about the matter) is allowed to 'vote' with and excuse themselves from duties they find distasteful, then we can expect all confidence in the Police to simply disappear, every single tiny pressure group will start claiming discrimination."

The same arguments were advanced by the prosecutors at the Nuremberg Trials against the pleas of the Nazi hierarchy.

In this particular case I think there was a threat to the safety of his family and if so, I would think it was sensible to allow him to perform elsewhere.

I've got to say, this is a major issue.
fred, I cannot find reference to a threat, but I can find one to morals!!
Does this mean that criminals will now only be arrested if the officer concerned thinks the law is right??
Will a homophobic officer be allowed to miss policing the gay rights marches??
Will officers who support the BNP (and there are many) be allowed a day off from policing when the BNP come to town. Will they have to show there voting cards before guarding the party conferences?
The officer was there to provide for the safety of diplomats residing in London. Their ethnicity is irrelevant to him. Their safety is his job. this officer, and the berk who allowed his appeal, are turning themselves into judge and jury and it must be stopped, fast.
The british police force are a fine body, but to turn them into a pick 'n' mix selection is ridiculous. Imagine the outcry if my police officer friend who is jewish, refused to police areas of Dewsbury which are 90%+ Muslim. He would, quite rightly be drummed out of the force, and quickly.
Alan

So true Alan, but the laws of the land do not permit exclusion of ethnicity within the workplace. What use is a bodyguard who spends an hour a day praying, surely this opens a window for attack and the rule of fitness for purpose should be applied. Does a person have the right to be homophobic and if yes then is this right applied to the workplace also? It would be if religious..