for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

PM1

Thanks for the evo update.

I see the price/target is still based on Greenseal alone.

The starch based cigarrete filter technology looks as though it could be a real winner, and it's easy to see why Evo think that the " value could be substantial".
And as you say, the material cost saving to the industry could be nearer $1.36b
than the $600m they quote. But we may have to wait another year before finding out just how much the industry is prepared to pay for it.

Greenseal seems to be the only fly in the ointment at the moment, and only then because it doesn't appear to be rolling out as quickly as people hoped. Once Stanelco equipe themselves with sufficient tray-lidding machines that can be used to substitute for the ASDA suppliers own machines, whilst they are converted
( thus allowing the packhouses to fullfill their supply contracts without interruption ), the sooner the rollout will gain momentum.

And then there's Starpol!! It's going to be an interesting 12 months.

Cheers

D

driver, evo may be correct, they may also be wrong. the thing i can't get my head around is that, if the ip is worth so much money , why didn't biotec, a loss making company, cash in?

Driver/Dormar Hi,

I am wondering if Biotec will still manufacture the Filter Tow, and sell it to another manufacturer to make the Cigarette Filters from it, distancing themselves a bit from the non-packaging product, and the Cigarette issues.

My reasoning is that Filter Tow has many uses, other than just in Cigarette Filters, and Stanelco might be able to use the starch filter tow in these areas. As I said a feq days ago, I have suggested some ideas for this to HQ.

Also if Stanelco do not make and sell the Filter Tow, someone else will have to, and it just seems like throwing away a possible easy income stream.

Cheers,
PM

Will it affect the taste of the tobacco?

Will it last as long as the exisiting filters?

How will it react to smoke being drawn through it?

Will it stop as much tar as the existing one's?

Will it dissolve on contact with saliva?


No one knows, as I said yesterday the testing for all these things will cost many millions of pounds; shares mag and evo are wrong in assuming it's worth millions as it's untried and untested.

If it really were a goer Biotec would have sold it long ago, just like Isracaps my bet is you'll never hear this idea mentioned ever again.

Smoke and mirrors my friends to detract from no one wanting greenseal.

Bos Hi,

Biotec were losing money, and had to concentrate on their own 'low hanging fruit', no doubt years ago when the project was shelved, the big USA court cases aginst tobacco companies had not happened.

Also as with all environmental or health issues, it takes a lot of time, effort, and resources to make those responsilble change their methods, that is finally happening in the tobacco industry, and if Stanelco tell the world (as they have just done) that the current filters are BAD, and that they have a much cheaper and safer alternative, then tobacco companies will sit up and take notice.

Cheers,
PM

Word reaches me that Masterson has been banned from iii after last nights shenanigans, add that one to his existing bans on fyb and advfn; one wonders how long he'll last here now.

LOL !!

As if anyone believes a word this company says!

Remember isracaps and the court case has no foundation rns's?

"Stanelco tell the world (as they have just done) that the current filters are BAD"

Let us all not forget - that although the increase in oil price is good for seo in one way - it also has an effect on its own cost of raw materials - because the maize has to be bought, planted, fertilized, harvested and shipped before it can be used as the raw product for greenseal - all of these processes themselves involve transport and hence oil.

Accepted that the increase willnot be to the same extent - but lets not loose sight of the fact that the cost of our own raw materials will also increase.

Baza.

Depends how nuch you bait him Sham - I for one value his posts - keep them coming Paul - but please ignore the baiting from others - it just aint worth it.

Baza

Still twice as many buys as there are sells - its only the depressed market that is holding the sp down. Shows that some still see this as a good buying opportunity.

Baza

Baza Hi,

dickhead sham can bait 'til the cows come home .... the squelch has been on for months :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Cheers,
PM

Paul

Can you refrain from using words like "D***head" etc on this board.

As much as Shamona is annoying to plenty he does provide a valuable counter balance to all the positive stuff.

And Shamona, can you please refrain from implying that other people are lying - unless you have documentary proof that you can post on this board

Thanks to you both

The oily one

Paul

I've caught you out so many times I stopped pulling you up about it, I know you read all the posts here.

That ii bans got to hurt, how you going to spend your evenings now?

lol!!

oily

Sorry, i'll refrain forthwith.

oily

were you meaning the posts implying paul is a ramping liar or something else?

i can supply proof of the former if required.

OK, Shamona, let us hear it then! Fair question?

bos
What ever its worth its more dosh in the pot, like I said the royalties on the sales would be a big bonus

Notice to all on this thread - personal insults will not be tolerated - please refrain and concentrate on the topic be that poitive or negative comment,

Ian

mark

As it's off topic i'll refrain from posting my dosier on him.

Price holding up pretty well today considering the markets, may well get a bounce tomorrow off the back of the shares article, think i'll wait to see how the US does tonight before opening a trade though.

Well the US has bounced - up 34 as we spea - just need it to drag the FTSE back abit now.