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LIBYA - updating news     

cynic - 02 Mar 2011 11:48

starting this thread, which i hope will be short-lived, to keep the board up to date with latest reports gleaned from the net

mitzy - 19 Mar 2011 18:28 - 107 of 685

Whats new...?

mitzy - 19 Mar 2011 18:28 - 108 of 685

Whats new...?

mnamreh - 20 Mar 2011 07:28 - 109 of 685

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cynic - 20 Mar 2011 07:42 - 110 of 685

MN .... your point about zimbabwe (there are others too of course) has some validity, but you are well wide of the mark with pretty much the balance of your criticism .,... you choose to ignore (doesn't suit your argument) that there were no moves at all until such a time as AL had given their full approval and more .... without that, and it is good to hear that AL is giving physical support too, then there would have been only tenuous legality .....

would you rather that the libyan "rebels" had been left to gaddafi's tender mercies, for certainly that is what you imply?

arguing that we (nothing like uk acting alone here of course) should not pick and choose to whom we give military and/or economic support, but rather treat all equally might be wonderful in your imagined idealistic utopia, but totally preposterous in the imperfect world in which we actually live

mnamreh - 20 Mar 2011 08:17 - 111 of 685

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gibby - 20 Mar 2011 08:45 - 112 of 685

quink word sas and sbs already there - gad be careull oour boys are there targetting them - have a good day all

aldwickk - 20 Mar 2011 08:49 - 113 of 685

Why do the American's spell Guaddaffi with a Q ?

gibby - 20 Mar 2011 08:52 - 114 of 685

sorry about the spelling bit of a rush

gibby - 20 Mar 2011 08:59 - 115 of 685

lol ald
i am stuck in libya right now my mess small oil co starting up what a cock up i made
but army friends ie sas say i will be ok last time i saw this was falklands how unlucky am i! and dont buy desire pet - rkh best bet - i know go for the one with most options lost of ex pats there make of that what you will

aldwickk - 20 Mar 2011 09:14 - 116 of 685

Good luck Gibby

gibby - 20 Mar 2011 09:27 - 117 of 685

thanks mate

Fred1new - 20 Mar 2011 11:06 - 118 of 685

NM.

I have sympathy for your positioning.

Pragmatism is often an excuse to excuse the actions you are carrying out.

However, sometimes it is reasonable to appreciate one's own limitations and act accordingly.

What is irritates me is the Gun Ho attitude to intervening in a situation like Libya, without realising the preparation necessary to interfere "effectively" and consider the reconstruction of the "state" organisation necessary for a functioning society in the aftermath.

Shooting off one's mouth and threatening somebody, such as a Psychopath like Gaddafi, before knowing one has, or getting international agreement is "grand standing", which is likely to increase the "bloodshed". Especially, when one cannot match the rhetoric with ones own resources.

I hope the present intervention will be successful, and eventually gainful to the inhabitants of Libya. How long Britain will be involve I dont know. But there is now a legal responsibility to the Libyan people for restoration of the country.

But, it does show the current weaknesses of the United Nations and that a faster mechanism for making decisions in problems like this, the removal of the "vetoes" mechanism and the introduction of a Military Force and also force suitable for intervening in other Humanitarian Catastrophes.

The coalition is now an occupation force, whatever the political rhetoric of some politicians.

mnamreh - 20 Mar 2011 11:38 - 119 of 685

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gibby - 20 Mar 2011 13:56 - 120 of 685

the truth is islam is the problem

another muslim tribe fighting another

pop over you will see it

Fred1new - 20 Mar 2011 14:17 - 121 of 685

Some still wish the return of Hitler, Stalin or Maggie 8-(

maggiebt4 - 20 Mar 2011 14:50 - 122 of 685

Would agree NM that there's usually something in it for the west to get involved but if it helps the locals giving them a fairer crack of the whip then it will have been worthwhile -
Fred Not interested find it hard enough managing my shares:-)

Fred1new - 20 Mar 2011 17:29 - 123 of 685

M4,

You completely confused me.

Just caught up.

If you are successful in your management of your shares, can you help me manage mine?

Every time I look at the portfolio and smile, a B. big cloud closes it out.

C'est la vie, or at least we are still alive.

Fred1new - 20 Mar 2011 17:30 - 124 of 685

PS.

For Aids

C'est la vie is German.

cynic - 20 Mar 2011 17:57 - 125 of 685

MN + FRED - so come on then, tell us all what you would have done .... your rhetoric sounds wonderful, but having read it twice, it still reads like twaddle, and my suspicion is that you would have done nothing and wanted nothing done - i.e. they all made their beds, so let them lie in it and bollocks to the lot of them .... life isn't that simple except to simple-minded idealists

mnamreh - 20 Mar 2011 18:47 - 126 of 685

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