bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
Rasenberg
- 06 Oct 2005 15:40
- 10709 of 27111
excuse the ignorance of a novice please Shamona but why would you buy in if 1) as you warned its down - post 10682. 2) Its all smoke and mirrors as no-one wants greenseal - post 10690. 3) No-one believes what the company says - post 10693. Is this just a short term punt on the back of SM article or has your stance changed.
Rasenberg
- 06 Oct 2005 15:40
- 10710 of 27111
excuse the ignorance of a novice please Shamona but why would you buy in if 1) as you warned its down - post 10682. 2) Its all smoke and mirrors as no-one wants greenseal - post 10690. 3) No-one believes what the company says - post 10693. Is this just a short term punt on the back of SM article or has your stance changed.
shamona
- 06 Oct 2005 15:42
- 10711 of 27111
rasen
Purely short term, I follow over hyped stocks and work the bounces.
shamona
- 06 Oct 2005 15:44
- 10712 of 27111
i only invest in "true" growth companies with massive potential, especially undervalued one's.
Rasenberg
- 06 Oct 2005 15:46
- 10713 of 27111
sham
Thx
bhunt1910
- 06 Oct 2005 15:47
- 10714 of 27111
Well its worked already Sham - just ticked up on the bid - was yours the 500 buy ???
baza
stateside
- 06 Oct 2005 15:57
- 10715 of 27111
Busy day on the ADVFN board:
From SHARES magasine
'Essam Khashoggi, one of the worlds richest men along with his older brother Adnan, the infamous arms dealer, has done high-tech packaging company Stanelco (SEO) a good turn. Stanelcos purchase of Khashoggis company, Biotec, for 15 million in June could turn out to be a fantastic
bargain.
Khashoggi is estimated to have invested $200 million founding US-quoted company Earth Shell Corporation to develop green biodegradeable
packaging. Sales have commenced but the shares have performed poorly and Essam resigned as chairman in July.
After heavy losses Earth Shell told Biotec to concentrate on only a couple of projects and forget the rest. One of these was a starch-based replacement for the plastic used in cigarette filters. The Biotec filter is
biodegradeable and supposedly safer. More to the point, it should save tobacco companies around 350 million a year on production costs as cellulose has rocketed in price due to the oil surge.
Stanelcos agents are contacting cigarette companies to open an auction to buy the intellectual property rights (IP) once the research on making the starch filter is completed.
There is a good chance that Stanelco will sell the filter IP for more than it paid for Biotec and also collect substantial royalty payments. Biotec is a world leader in starch-based packaging but is barely profitable as sales are
minimal. Packaging made from starch is much cheaper than plastic but cannot be heatsealed. So the combination with Stanelcos radio beam
sealing technology looks like a marriage made in heaven.
by: Timon Day '
Posted after the usual Banal de-rampers:
Still de-ramping pests persist. A bunch of clueless losers!.
What is their raison-d'etre?
Are they trying to help shareholders?
Obviously not!
Read Stanelco's RNSs. The RNSs have to conform to financial regulations.
De-rampers make their own rules: 'Destruction r Us'.
Stanelco's RNSs outline areas of research, development and collaboration which are expected to come 'on stream' during the next twelve months. As they come 'on stream'
Stanelco's share price will rise exponentially.
That is not ramping that is the scenario that exists.
Anyone can check out the company's RNSs for themselves.
z
madmanc - 6 Oct'05 - 12:58 - 52242 of 52244
zeppo
I once read a couple of Stanelco rns, it was the ISRACRAPS and the COURT CASE HAS NO FOUNDATION one's; never believed another word they've came out with since. Both were proven to be shams.
zeppo - 6 Oct'05 - 15:42 - 52243 of 52244 edit
madmanc
It is a fallacy to generalise from the particular.
The two RNSs which you quote, but deliberatly misconstrue, have little relevance to Stanelco's present status or to Stanelco's future prospects. You really are scraping at the bottom of the barrel to find something malicious to post.
As explained in a statement of 24th October 2003, neither Howards White, nor Ben White were present at the meeting which led to the Isracaps deal. (Check Investor Relations, 24th October 2003, on the StanelcoPLC site) The deal (which was made for the good of the company) is dormant until the Appeal Revue next year for the patent dispute with BPRG. Nobody can, as yet, predict the outcome of that revue. Whatever the outcome of the review, Stanelco has moved on. The outcome of the review now only has marginal sigificance to Stanelco's future potential.
Why ignore the many relevant and more recent positive RNSs?
The Stanelco stand created a buzz at the NEC Birmingham last week displaying more packaging innovation on the one stand than the rest of the show.
Stanelco will be well represented at the packaging forum in Philadelphia later this month.
The next Annual Report, due at the end of January 2006, will clarify the tremendous future that this company now has. By then there is expected to be be firm evidence of orders. It is lack of information on orders that is obviously dragging on the share price. To conclude that those orders are not coming through, simply from the current share price, may prove to be a costly mistake.
I believe that now is a good time to top up on this share.
z
madmanc - 6 Oct'05 - 15:47 - 52244 of 52244
true
I've changed my mind, I was forgetten about most of the things you mentioned.
Sorry for generalising, have now bought in after reading your post.
Wow! someone changing their mind on a bulletin board.
That's a first.
stateside
paulmasterson1
- 06 Oct 2005 16:07
- 10716 of 27111
Baza Hi,
Yes, I am one of those that has confirmed that Wal-Mart will be co-presenting with Natureworks at the Sustainable Packaging Forum on 17-19 October.
Proof is here ....
http://www.packworld.com/articles/Departments/19825.html
First posted August 25, 2005 as a Web exclusive
Wal-Mart vp to speak at Sustainable Packaging Forum
WEB EXCLUSIVE: A Wal-Mart representative will discuss sustainable packaging at Packaging Strategies Sustainable Packaging Forum to take place October 17-19, 2005, in Philadelphia.
Matt Kistler, vp of product development and packaging for Sams Club, and Snehal Desai, global commercial director of NatureWorks, LLC, will deliver an extended presentation titled Driving Sustainable Packaging Through the Supply Chain: Challeneges to Innovation and Market Leadership.
Packaging World is a media partner for the Sustainable Packaging Forum. For sponsorship information, please download the sponsorship form here.
Suppliers:
Packaging Strategies
www.packstrat.com
Phone: 610-436-4220
NatureWorks PLA
www.natureworksllc.com
Phone: 952-984-3306
bhunt1910
- 06 Oct 2005 16:21
- 10717 of 27111
Thanks Paul - I knew that you would know
Baza
bhunt1910
- 06 Oct 2005 16:27
- 10718 of 27111
Might just get back to evens by the close
3:2 @ 15: 15.25 and 66k v 108k
paulmasterson1
- 06 Oct 2005 17:10
- 10719 of 27111
Baza Hi,
I E-Mailed Matt Kistler yesterday, asking him if he can tell me anything about the presentation, it's objectives etc, no reply yet though ....
Cheers,
PM
bhunt1910
- 06 Oct 2005 17:13
- 10720 of 27111
Well its worth a go - but I doubt he would give anything away
Baza
Mad Pad
- 06 Oct 2005 17:18
- 10721 of 27111
FTSE down 1.02%,SEO unchanged.Says it all.
qc
- 06 Oct 2005 18:50
- 10722 of 27111
Just received TB's weekly update.
He mentions that SEO issued a Greenseal update to head off profit takers.
His final statement echos my opinions over the last few months....
"These announcements have failed to stem the tide of the share price, but the underlying story has not changed, so BUY."
He clearly knows what he's talking about unlike many on here! lol
paulmasterson1
- 06 Oct 2005 18:52
- 10723 of 27111
Hi All,
This is where the 'Sustainable Packaging Forum' came from .... the 'Sustainable Packaging Coalition' ....
Sustainable Packaging Coalition
GreenBlue is working with a group of companies from throughout the packaging industry value chain to pursue cradle-to-cradle principles in packaging.
Background
In Spring 2003, cradle-to-cradle principles began drawing attention in the packaging industry with a Packaging World cover story (May 2003) and an EPA-sponsored Cradle to Cradle Design Challenge focused on e-commerce shipping packaging and logistics. Seeing an opportunity for the industry to build on this attention, David Newcorn, author of the Packaging World cover article, suggested holding a meeting to invite members of the packaging industry to consider forming a working group around cradle-to-cradle concepts.
GreenBlue, the newly formed non-profit organization dedicated to promoting and developing cradle-to-cradle principles and methods, organized a workshop and meeting held in July 2003, hosted by the Darden Graduate School of Business Administration at the University of Virginia and sponsored by McDonough Braungart Design Chemistry. The first meeting revealed significant interest among the attendees from throughout the packaging value chain, and a follow-up meeting was held in November 2003 to adopt a mission and develop strategy and organizational structure for an industry working group. The Sustainable Packaging Coalition officially launched in March 2004.
Mission
The Sustainable Packaging Coalition is a working group of packaging professionals, ranging along the value chain from paper and resin manufacturers to consumer product companies and retailers whose mission is (1) to advocate and communicate a positive, robust environmental vision for packaging; and (2) to leverage innovative, functional packaging materials and systems that support economic and environmental health.
Members
As of early May 2004, members of the Sustainable Packaging Coalition include: BioCorp; Cargill Dow; Design & Source Production; Dow Chemical Company; Estee Lauder/Aveda; EvCo Research; MeadWestvaco; Nike; Priority Metrics Group; Starbucks Coffee Company; Tropicana; and Unilever.
Progress
After initial organizing meetings in July and November 2003 at the University of Virginia's Darden Graduate School of Business Administration, the first meeting of the Sustainable Packaging Coalition is scheduled for June 24-25, 2004 in Seattle, WA and will be hosted by Starbucks Coffee Company. Work is already underway for the Coalition's initial projects, and will be reviewed at the meeting in June.
Please visit the Sustainable Packaging Coalition website
http://www.sustainablepackaging.org/ to learn more and to join the Coalition. Specific questions may be directed to: spcinfo@greenblue.org.
http://www.greenblue.org/activities_lead.htm
paulmasterson1
- 06 Oct 2005 18:53
- 10724 of 27111
QC Hi,
Nice one :)
Cheers,
PM
greekman
- 06 Oct 2005 18:57
- 10725 of 27111
EWRobson
Re your post of 1751hrs yesterday.
An excellent sensible summary, although I don't think the switch on emphasis will cause too much of a problem, but who knows, time will tell. Enjoy the sun.
paulmasterson1
- 06 Oct 2005 18:58
- 10726 of 27111
SUSTAINABLE PACKAGING COALITION HOLDS FIRST ANNUAL MEETING
Charlottesville, Virginia, July 28, 2004 On June 23-25, 2004, the Sustainable Packaging Coalition (SPC) held its first annual meeting following its official formation earlier this year, hosted by the Starbucks Coffee Company in Seattle, Washington. More than twenty six consumer product companies and packaging suppliers were involved in the meeting, working together to encourage the development of environmentally sustainable and economically profitable packaging solutions. Meeting participants included Albertsons, Aveda, Bemis, Biocorp, Cargill Dow, Design & Source Productions, Dow Chemical, Dupont Soy Polymers, U.S. EPA, EPI, Estee Lauder, EvCo Research, International Paper, Johnson & Johnson, Kraft, MeadWestvaco, Metafore, Microsoft, Nike, PepsiCo, Priority Metrics Group, RSVP Packaging, SOL, Solo, Starbucks, Stora Enso, Sustainable Packaging Alliance, Timberland, Unilever, and Wild Oats. Member company Cargill Dow sponsored a networking event at Seattles Space Needle on the first evening of the meeting. Biocorp North America also supported the meeting by providing biodegradable packaging and utensils.
paulmasterson1
- 06 Oct 2005 19:00
- 10727 of 27111
October 17-19, 2005
Sheraton Society Hill
Philadelphia, PA, U.S.A.
The inaugural Sustainable Packaging Forum will deliver the first comprehensive and unbiased analysis of the three tenets of sustainability --economic, social,environment -- and their impact on sustainable operations among consumer goods producers and their bottom-line impact on sustainable package production.
Presentations and panels will target theoretical, practical, technical tools and processes CPGs and packaging suppliers must know and use to create and maintain economically profitable, ecologically regenerative, and socially empowering activities through intelligent design and operations.
Sponsors: Natureworks and Huhtamaki
http://www.packstrat.com/FILES/HTML/Conferences_and_Events/conferences-sustainablepackaging/
paulmasterson1
- 06 Oct 2005 19:05
- 10728 of 27111
What a great collection of future clients :)
Sustainable Packaging Forum 2005 - Attendance by Company
AGI / Klearfold (Meadwestvaco)
Alcan Packaging Services AG
All-Pak, Incorporated
Alliance of Foam Packaging Recyclers
Amcor, Ltd.
ARCO Aluminum, Inc.
Ball Corporation
BASF Corporation
Biodegradable Products Institute (BPI)
ConAgra Foods
Corrugated Packaging Alliance
Crown Cork & Seal
Design & Source Productions, Inc.
Diversapack, LLC
DuPont Liquid Packaging Systems
DuPont Packaging
Dura-Fibre, LLC
Earthcycle Packaging, Ltd.
Eastman Chemical Co., Voridian Div.
Energizer
ExxonMobil Chemical Co.
ExxonMobil Chemical Films Business
Fabri-Kal Corporation
Flexcon Company, Inc.
Frito Lay
Frito Lay R & D
GA-Pacific Dixie Business
Global Packaging Innovations, L.L.C.
Hewlett-Packard Co.
Huhtamaki Consumer Packaging
Huhtamaki Packaging
Innovia Films, Inc.
International Paper Co.
Jedlicka Design, Ltd.
Key Tech Corp. / Lock n'Pop
Klockner Pentaplast
Malnove of Florida
MasterFoods USA
MeadWestvaco Forestry Division
MeadWestvaco Healthcare Packaging
MeadWestvaco Packaging Systems
Metabolix, Inc.
Milprint, Inc. - a Bemis Company
Multivac, Inc.
Nestle Purina PetCare
Packaging 2.0 LLC
Pak-IT Technologies, Inc.
PCL Packaging, Inc.
PepsiCo
PepsiCo Beverages and Foods
Pira International
Plastic Technologies, Inc.
Printpack, Inc.
PWP Industries
Rehrig Pacific Company
Rexam, Inc.
SC Johnson - Home Storage Divison
SCA Americas
SCA Packaging North America
SCA Packaging, Consumer Products
Sealed Air Corporation
Shintech, Inc.
Sigpack International AG
Silgan Holdings, Inc.
Stora Enso Specialty Papers
Tetra Pak
Tetra Pak Carton Ambient sPa
Tetra Pak Packaging Systems AB
The Vinyl Institute
Toyo Seikan Kaisha, Ltd.
Wm. Wrigley Jr. Company