Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Owen Paterson's letter sums it all up. She has to go. She messed up the election with her fool advisers and she messed up the Brexit negotiations by listening to the same incompetents. While the EU stayed with and supported Barnier, she failed to give her appointed team the same freedom and support. She may be dogged but with the wrong people. White woman talk with forked tongue.

They might well decide to support her, who knows?

But if they do, it's the end of the tory party.

She is a tuff cookie and I will be surprised if she does not win tonight, even though I am of the view she should go, unless she is willing to leave with no deal and just get on with it.

Bad news Fred , it wasn't me going anywhere but one of the kids off to Iceland.

How's the betting looking on May surviving ? Hope she loses but I think it could be close

Is she doing PM questions today ? Could be worth a watch if she is.

Question is Dil - who would be strong enough to deliver the clean break from the EU?

If TM cannot do a deal that would get voted through, would she then deliver the clean break that would in the long term be good for the country.

Dil,

One can live in hope.

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Has TM been reported to HMRC.

She might CT but I think the EU would back down on the back stop agreement before that happens.

Trouble is that the rest of the agreement is crap too and they'll walk all over her again in the trade talks.

Fred :-)

according to fred, corbyn is a principled and reasonable pragmatist, which i take it means that he'll just continue as a limp lettuce in regards to brexit ..... assuredly he will not (be allowed to) deliver a decisive break from europe

for that matter, i don't think anyone can, despite the rantings of some rabids on this site

would a 2nd referendum clarify matters?
imo, no ...... there'll once again be a narrow victory for one side or the other, taking us no further forward at all from where we already are

Mays about 1/3 to win the confidence vote after being as low as 1/6 and as high as 1/2. Could be stuck with her for another 12 months.

The "confidence" vote just points to the general incompetence of the present tory government made up of self-interested con artists.

The general public is bemused, others in the world are shaking their heads sadly, but vowing not to trust the UK in future negotiations.

There goes Fred again speaking for the nation and now the rest of the world pompous ass comes to mind.

Donkey,

Take your blinkers off and check what is under your tail.

JC taking a battering from TM - looks well out of his depth and furious that he is failing to make headway while she is weakend, let alone if she wins, she could well walk all over him and his party.

Spot on CT. JC staring at an open goal and he stubs his foot as he he puts it into his mouth.

Unable to talk if it is not scripted for him. the Incontinent Gardener had him stumped.

Fantastic humour!

She should attempt doing it on the stage in a pantomime.

A fitting place for your icon.

And you think Donkeys and arses is more amusing. Pa what a PA

Perhaps Not.

She would send shivers down the children's backs.

Seeing JC has made himself look like a fish out of water in front of TM today, how long will his party put up with him floundering around and unable to even strike a blow when TM is on the ground - fighting for Brexit.

When will T May and the neo-cons be satisfied with her triumph?

Probably, when Pound-to-Euro Exchange Rate reaches parity.

Good point Fred , that'll be great for exports.

Nice to see you looking on the bright side for a change.