Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

She might CT but I think the EU would back down on the back stop agreement before that happens.

Trouble is that the rest of the agreement is crap too and they'll walk all over her again in the trade talks.

Fred :-)

according to fred, corbyn is a principled and reasonable pragmatist, which i take it means that he'll just continue as a limp lettuce in regards to brexit ..... assuredly he will not (be allowed to) deliver a decisive break from europe

for that matter, i don't think anyone can, despite the rantings of some rabids on this site

would a 2nd referendum clarify matters?
imo, no ...... there'll once again be a narrow victory for one side or the other, taking us no further forward at all from where we already are

Mays about 1/3 to win the confidence vote after being as low as 1/6 and as high as 1/2. Could be stuck with her for another 12 months.

The "confidence" vote just points to the general incompetence of the present tory government made up of self-interested con artists.

The general public is bemused, others in the world are shaking their heads sadly, but vowing not to trust the UK in future negotiations.

There goes Fred again speaking for the nation and now the rest of the world pompous ass comes to mind.

Donkey,

Take your blinkers off and check what is under your tail.

JC taking a battering from TM - looks well out of his depth and furious that he is failing to make headway while she is weakend, let alone if she wins, she could well walk all over him and his party.

Spot on CT. JC staring at an open goal and he stubs his foot as he he puts it into his mouth.

Unable to talk if it is not scripted for him. the Incontinent Gardener had him stumped.

Fantastic humour!

She should attempt doing it on the stage in a pantomime.

A fitting place for your icon.

And you think Donkeys and arses is more amusing. Pa what a PA

Perhaps Not.

She would send shivers down the children's backs.

Seeing JC has made himself look like a fish out of water in front of TM today, how long will his party put up with him floundering around and unable to even strike a blow when TM is on the ground - fighting for Brexit.

When will T May and the neo-cons be satisfied with her triumph?

Probably, when Pound-to-Euro Exchange Rate reaches parity.

Good point Fred , that'll be great for exports.

Nice to see you looking on the bright side for a change.

Fred if temporay parity with the Euro means jobs, world trade deals and a booming UK - then that is the best outcome for everyone, then soon after the Left Wing loonies would find out the markets would send the GBP northwards and we would enjoy our freedom from the EU and Left Wing for a very long time, as Labour would never get into power.

The BBC’s Andrew Neil says BBC research shows that more than 158 Tory MPs – the threshold – have said they will vote for Theresa May.

But he points out that just because MPs says they will vote for May, that does not necessarily mean they will.

Fred you really hit the nail on the head when you suggested parity could be the short term situation after the clean break - It might even mean that the High Street Shops might weather the storm, as they get overrun with tourists, snapping up the bargains, factories busy, supplying top quality British products, from all sectors be it cars, handbags,fashion just name a few.

did anyone understand the joke and allusion about the inconstant gardener and quite how it applied to corbyn?

fred is the source of all knowledge, so perhaps he can explain

From a fading confused memory, The Constant Gardener by John le Carré and Corbyn having an allotment.

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Dil,

And when you import raw materials etc.. or other goods.

Flash Harry trading!

explanation just appeared on my screen

She also appeared to employ a complicated pun on the name of the shadow trade secretary Barry Gardiner, who has often appeared in the press to deliver Labour's Brexit policy


presumably because labour's stance on brexit varies as does the wind