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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Clocktower - 12 Dec 2018 12:15 - 10764 of 12628

JC taking a battering from TM - looks well out of his depth and furious that he is failing to make headway while she is weakend, let alone if she wins, she could well walk all over him and his party.

Martini - 12 Dec 2018 12:23 - 10765 of 12628

Spot on CT. JC staring at an open goal and he stubs his foot as he he puts it into his mouth.

Unable to talk if it is not scripted for him. the Incontinent Gardener had him stumped.

Fred1new - 12 Dec 2018 12:27 - 10766 of 12628

Fantastic humour!

She should attempt doing it on the stage in a pantomime.

A fitting place for your icon.

Martini - 12 Dec 2018 12:29 - 10767 of 12628

And you think Donkeys and arses is more amusing. Pa what a PA

Fred1new - 12 Dec 2018 12:29 - 10768 of 12628

Perhaps Not.

She would send shivers down the children's backs.

Clocktower - 12 Dec 2018 12:31 - 10769 of 12628

Seeing JC has made himself look like a fish out of water in front of TM today, how long will his party put up with him floundering around and unable to even strike a blow when TM is on the ground - fighting for Brexit.

Fred1new - 12 Dec 2018 12:44 - 10770 of 12628

When will T May and the neo-cons be satisfied with her triumph?

Probably, when Pound-to-Euro Exchange Rate reaches parity.





Dil - 12 Dec 2018 12:51 - 10771 of 12628

Good point Fred , that'll be great for exports.

Nice to see you looking on the bright side for a change.

Clocktower - 12 Dec 2018 12:56 - 10772 of 12628

Fred if temporay parity with the Euro means jobs, world trade deals and a booming UK - then that is the best outcome for everyone, then soon after the Left Wing loonies would find out the markets would send the GBP northwards and we would enjoy our freedom from the EU and Left Wing for a very long time, as Labour would never get into power.

Cerise Noire Girl - 12 Dec 2018 13:03 - 10773 of 12628

The BBC’s Andrew Neil says BBC research shows that more than 158 Tory MPs – the threshold – have said they will vote for Theresa May.

But he points out that just because MPs says they will vote for May, that does not necessarily mean they will.

Clocktower - 12 Dec 2018 13:04 - 10774 of 12628

Fred you really hit the nail on the head when you suggested parity could be the short term situation after the clean break - It might even mean that the High Street Shops might weather the storm, as they get overrun with tourists, snapping up the bargains, factories busy, supplying top quality British products, from all sectors be it cars, handbags,fashion just name a few.

cynic - 12 Dec 2018 13:15 - 10775 of 12628

did anyone understand the joke and allusion about the inconstant gardener and quite how it applied to corbyn?

fred is the source of all knowledge, so perhaps he can explain

Fred1new - 12 Dec 2018 14:01 - 10776 of 12628


From a fading confused memory, The Constant Gardener by John le Carré and Corbyn having an allotment.

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Dil,

And when you import raw materials etc.. or other goods.

Flash Harry trading!


cynic - 12 Dec 2018 14:09 - 10777 of 12628

explanation just appeared on my screen

She also appeared to employ a complicated pun on the name of the shadow trade secretary Barry Gardiner, who has often appeared in the press to deliver Labour's Brexit policy


presumably because labour's stance on brexit varies as does the wind

Fred1new - 12 Dec 2018 14:51 - 10778 of 12628

Manuel,

Your stance on anything seems very variable on everything, must be your wobbly legs.

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T May is self-destructing in public opinion, at the moment all Corbyn has to do is look on as she rides into the Valley.

cynic - 12 Dec 2018 14:53 - 10779 of 12628

far from convinced you're right, but all will be revealed in due course and there's bugger all you and i nor anyone else can do to influence

Fred1new - 12 Dec 2018 14:57 - 10780 of 12628

Either or, neither nor?

MaxK - 12 Dec 2018 15:01 - 10781 of 12628

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/12/12/theresa-may-no-confidence-vote-result-conservative-leadership/



From the comment section:



Paul Spradbery
12 Dec 2018 2:17PM





Gove says he is right behind the prime minister.

Could be interesting.




Julian Callendar
12 Dec 2018 2:18PM





@Paul Spradbery

Is he holding anything?

cynic - 12 Dec 2018 15:03 - 10782 of 12628

probably either or, but could just as easily be neither nor :-)

2517GEORGE - 12 Dec 2018 15:41 - 10783 of 12628

I am very much against the so called Deal on the table but, I hope she wins tonight, yes, the mess she is in has largely been created by her, albeit against fierce opposition to Brexit by the Selective Democrat Brigade in Westminster and beyond.

If she loses there is no guarantee that her replacement is as eager to implement Brexit and adamant that no 2nd referendum will take place. So Brexiteers wishing to see her lose, be careful what you wish for.

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