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Traders Thread Monday 26th July 2004 (CROC)     

Martini - 25 Jul 2004 14:01

Maggot - 26 Jul 2004 12:54 - 108 of 158

Interesting that a spike of 15 up and straight down again just appeared on cmc's /$ forex chart but it never registered on IG's price! I know that their various prices reflect the betting on their site alone, but it's a wee bit suspicious - it would have shaken out some shorters with tight stops. Luckily I had not got a position.

BrianTrayda - 26 Jul 2004 12:54 - 109 of 158

Anybody calculated the ANL points impact on the FTSE? Just wondered where it would be with a flat ANL....

Kyoto - 26 Jul 2004 13:08 - 110 of 158

Santander BSCH is back on and trading at 7.73/74 - a drop from 8 on Friday. Now the arbitrage game begins.

sandeepbharadwaj - 26 Jul 2004 13:10 - 111 of 158

anl perky again, counterbid?

Treblewide - 26 Jul 2004 13:15 - 112 of 158

afternoon folks...just back from Barca.....top weekend however went to cafe Bagdad which is a rather dodgy club. Tried to humiliate the stag by getting him up on stage but guess who had swapped seats with him and was dragged up on stage by a close relative of Nadia from Big Brother...i feel used :-)

ThePlayboy - 26 Jul 2004 13:17 - 113 of 158

LOL dragged up by RAMBOY whatever next treble!

Kyoto - 26 Jul 2004 13:21 - 114 of 158

Rough ANL arbitrage as I'm busy but... 603-31 special dividend gives 572/800 pre-close = 603 bid therefore shareprice element is at .715 - BSCH 774 gives: (BSCH*0.715)+31=584.41

fulhamken - 26 Jul 2004 13:29 - 115 of 158

tkx kyoto

Treblewide - 26 Jul 2004 13:31 - 116 of 158

TP....i was man handled...not a pleasant experience however the rest of the boys seemed to think it was hiliarious!

Kyoto - 26 Jul 2004 13:33 - 117 of 158

Fulhamken - doesn't take into account exchange rates, possible dodgy sums on my part, not reading the bid document properly for longer than 1 minute, possibility that some regulator somewhere will block or due diligence will turn up something.

ThePlayboy - 26 Jul 2004 13:34 - 118 of 158

at least your maintaining a life outside trading treb, beats posting on the lonely hearts thread at midnight, heres one for all you truckers out there:)

fulhamken - 26 Jul 2004 13:51 - 119 of 158

closed short anl - 1
closed long anl + 10.5
closed long anl + 12.0

currently long anl 561

Boyse - 26 Jul 2004 13:58 - 120 of 158

26p bounce from Low all over the show

Spaceman - 26 Jul 2004 14:07 - 121 of 158

ruth, you have hotmail.

sandeepbharadwaj - 26 Jul 2004 14:10 - 122 of 158

anl +12. takeover price works at 5.45
present price of santa ia 7.80 at .66 exchange rate it values anl at 5.14
+ 31p div = 5.45

sandeepbharadwaj - 26 Jul 2004 14:12 - 123 of 158

price spike suggests that a counter bid is in the offing

Kyoto - 26 Jul 2004 14:13 - 124 of 158

What I don't understand about the ANL bid is why Reuters and Bloomberg are running stories saying that the bid is valued at 550-560 per - when the ANL release states 603. Any thoughts? Am I missing something here?

The terms of the Acquisition are based on the equity market
capitalisations of the two companies over the last three months and (taking into
account the special dividend) represent a premium for Abbey Shareholders of
approximately 28.6 per cent.2, valuing each Abbey Share at 603 pence (609 pence
taking into account 6 pence for dividend differential) and the entire issued
ordinary share capital of Abbey at approximately 8.9bn (13.4bn)(1),(2).
http://www.uk-wire.com/cgi-bin/articles/200407261002422015B.html

Abbey investors will receive one Santander share and 31 pence in cash for each Abbey share, Santander Chairman Emilio Botin told analysts in London. That values the offer at 560 pence a share based on the Spanish bank's closing price Friday.http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000006&sid=a9eY1aEP6iAk&refer=home

The terms value Abbey at 559 pence a share including the dividend payout, based on Santander's share price when it was suspended on Friday after the companies said they were in talks.
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=554053&section=news

MightyMicro - 26 Jul 2004 14:22 - 125 of 158

Santander double-bottied at 7.74 and bounced back to 7.83 Volume just 34m.

Kyoto - 26 Jul 2004 14:24 - 126 of 158

Yes, I am missing something. That wasn't 603 BSCH market cap Friday, but based on an average. So my sums are off. See what happens when you have a job and don't have time to read things?! Bad marks to ANL though.

Still holding, but very much thinking about my exit price now.

Big Al - 26 Jul 2004 14:46 - 127 of 158

Plate-painting rent boy got back in one piece, I see.

Bummer!

ROFLMAO!
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